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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 12, 2017 9:20:33 GMT -5
That being said man some people in their comments are really quick to turn on this, I'd like to hear how people saying it's already ruined were so on board with Broken Matt in week two of the original gimmicks run... this shit needs time to grow a little, that said, I hope we develop more, have Wyatt have a match where Matt interferes or something. I can see their point...because it's the same damned promo format from last week, only this time they added needless 'Woken glass' transition effects and amped up the "laugh-off" at the end that made me sigh in frustration. This is the same thing that killed the 'return of Goldust' when they were doing those movie parody promos between he and R-Truth. They see everyone react very positively to the first one, so they drive the sucker into the ground with the same formula for weeks. HOPEFULLY Matt has retained enough control that they move on from this next time Raw comes on (how's about an actual live Hardy for example?), because yeah...the audience is going to lose interest fast just like the rest of the WWE programming if they don't stop being so freaking lazy about the goldmine they've acquired. Yeah I imagine if Hardy has as much control as they've reported, he will want a live segment soon, or at least a different video package. The crowd thankfully didn't seem to lose interest this week at all, they were still into everything Matt was doing, but you can't keep doing the same thing over and over, I know Matt knows that because the Broken Gimmick always evolved and did different wacky shit.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 12, 2017 10:16:02 GMT -5
Just imagine Monsoon doing commentary with Matt. "We're live with His Woken-ship, Matt Hardy, here on Wrestling Challenge!" "BROTHER GINO, WE HAVE ARRVIVED KNEW YOU'D COME! YEEESSSS!"
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Post by King Devitt on Dec 12, 2017 10:20:13 GMT -5
I'm getting Broken/Woken Matt so I'm happy, but...
The transitions ruin the pacing of the promos. Both of which are solid. They play off of each other very, very well, as many of us hoped they would.
And Matt's transitions are horrible. It's far too polished, and didn't need to be every. single. time.
Now if Vanguard 1 were flying into frame and was responsible for Matt's transitions, it'd be different. As it is, it's like WWE is trying to polish what doesn't need to be polished.
Matt's character works because it's organic, unpredictable and out there. This all feels way too "College student using Final Cut Pro for the first time".
That being said, it's better than no Broken/Woken Matt, so I'll take it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 10:33:12 GMT -5
What they're doing is fine but it's way too reminiscent of Goldust/R-Truth now, where I can't help but feel we're gonna get these style of promos ad nauseam to the point of "do something already," and when they have a match it'll be brief and uneventful. It's tough to be trusting of the journey when WWE loves their established formulas and this rings so familiar of a bad one.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 12, 2017 10:43:48 GMT -5
I can see their point...because it's the same damned promo format from last week, only this time they added needless 'Woken glass' transition effects and amped up the "laugh-off" at the end that made me sigh in frustration. This is the same thing that killed the 'return of Goldust' when they were doing those movie parody promos between he and R-Truth. They see everyone react very positively to the first one, so they drive the sucker into the ground with the same formula for weeks. HOPEFULLY Matt has retained enough control that they move on from this next time Raw comes on (how's about an actual live Hardy for example?), because yeah...the audience is going to lose interest fast just like the rest of the WWE programming if they don't stop being so freaking lazy about the goldmine they've acquired. Yeah I imagine if Hardy has as much control as they've reported, he will want a live segment soon, or at least a different video package. The crowd thankfully didn't seem to lose interest this week at all, they were still into everything Matt was doing, but you can't keep doing the same thing over and over, I know Matt knows that because the Broken Gimmick always evolved and did different wacky shit. The one positive is that Matt actually seems to know how to play around/with all the Wyatt/Sister Abigail-related bullshit. Maybe Bray can get some actual context for once.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 12, 2017 10:54:10 GMT -5
Another WONDERFUL promo, but I hope we'll see the Hardy Compound again soon, and maybe some other locations for the Woken Universe to switch things up.
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Post by domrep on Dec 12, 2017 12:10:33 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if this lasted past the Rumble. WWE tends to run things into the ground, and last night's segment was trash. Once Jeff comes back, they'll probably forget this ever happened and move on.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 12, 2017 12:24:06 GMT -5
A good promi, but the transitions were a bit much.
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 12, 2017 12:37:22 GMT -5
they didn't need to do the "woken" thing for each change of pace. i'm still hoping now for next week where Bray comes out and gets buzzed by vanguard 1- just so something different gets put into the mix that was part of the broken universe. i expect commentary to lose their minds wondering why everyone is chanting "vanguard 1... we knew you'd come!" ok they would probably stop at vanguard 1 but still
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Dec 12, 2017 13:15:57 GMT -5
We definitely need to take a trip to Matt's house for Xmas dinner or something.
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Post by the2ndevil on Dec 12, 2017 13:18:42 GMT -5
So, if I’m understanding the dual promos from last night correctly, Bray and Matt are the latest vessels of two entities that have been at war for eons.
That about the gist of it?
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Post by Dub H on Dec 12, 2017 13:25:12 GMT -5
So, if I’m understanding the dual promos from last night correctly, Bray and Matt are the latest vessels of two entities that have been at war for eons. That about the gist of it? No, Matt is an ENTITY that has been living for EONS currently using that body as a host. And Bray is rambling about vague stuff.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 12, 2017 13:27:55 GMT -5
So, if I’m understanding the dual promos from last night correctly, Bray and Matt are the latest vessels of two entities that have been at war for eons. That about the gist of it? No, Matt is an ENTITY that has been living for EONS currently using that body as a host. And Bray is rambling about vague stuff. Matt did claim that Sister Abigail is another ancient entity that turned to darkness and then possessed Bray.
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Post by the2ndevil on Dec 12, 2017 13:32:11 GMT -5
No, Matt is an ENTITY that has been living for EONS currently using that body as a host. And Bray is rambling about vague stuff. Matt did claim that Sister Abigail is another ancient entity that turned to darkness and then possessed Bray. They should have saved the dramatic reveal of Sister Abigail for this. It fits the Broken/Woken Universe like a glove. This stuff is cheesey without question, but has so far not been ridiculously so.
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Post by Hurbster on Dec 12, 2017 15:05:30 GMT -5
If they can string it out until Rosemary is available...
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