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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Dec 19, 2017 11:16:48 GMT -5
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2017 11:56:19 GMT -5
Yikes.
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Post by Muskrat on Dec 19, 2017 11:56:53 GMT -5
Well, that's pretty f***ed up if true
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 19, 2017 12:02:35 GMT -5
Ironically there's no Emoji that feels appropriate to respond to this story with.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 19, 2017 12:08:12 GMT -5
Hoo boy.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 19, 2017 13:23:09 GMT -5
Disney is not going to want Deadpool 2 being released with this guy in it. They're going to have to find ways to edit him out.
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Post by eJm on Dec 19, 2017 13:25:46 GMT -5
Disney is not going to want Deadpool 2 being released with this guy in it. They're going to have to find ways to edit him out. Technically, it’s Fox’s issue until this time next year since there’s a lot of paperwork and certification that has to go down before it happens but I agree with the sentiment. Reshoots seem highly likely, though.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Dec 19, 2017 13:32:17 GMT -5
Wow! That was rough.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 19, 2017 14:06:47 GMT -5
This sorta stuff has been following TJ Miller for years now.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 19, 2017 14:31:49 GMT -5
This sorta stuff has been following TJ Miller for years now. I feel like I see comments just like that in a ton of these threads, and it really rubs me the wrong way. If you can’t cite a source, don’t spread rumour and innuendo.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 19, 2017 15:51:20 GMT -5
That's the thing, though. We now have an actual accuser confirming the rumors and innuendo.
I usually don't listen to rumors until outright accusations come out, but as with Louis CK and Bill Cosby, often where there's smoke, there's fire. Most of the people being accused of sexual harassment, misconduct, or worse aren't people who you're shocked by outside of a few individuals. There's been rumors and innuendos surrounding a lot of these people for years if not decades. Just that they've used their influence and power to quash it or brush it off. But since Weinstein, we've seen the floodgates open as women and men have felt emboldened to tell their stories of victimization.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 16:25:24 GMT -5
TJ and his wife respond.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Dec 19, 2017 16:37:57 GMT -5
That's a hell of a response. And it helps his wife is at his side. Totally reminds me of this girl I knew in college who would manipulate guys and girls but always try to save face and play victim despite being caught red-handed. The plot thickens..but like I said, at least his wife is at his side.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2017 16:49:08 GMT -5
To be frank, Miller.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Dec 19, 2017 16:53:15 GMT -5
To be frank, Miller. Honestly his story sounds like something Frank Miller would write
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 19, 2017 16:53:52 GMT -5
That's the thing, though. We now have an actual accuser confirming the rumors and innuendo. I usually don't listen to rumors until outright accusations come out, but as with Louis CK and Bill Cosby, often where there's smoke, there's fire. Most of the people being accused of sexual harassment, misconduct, or worse aren't people who you're shocked by outside of a few individuals. There's been rumors and innuendos surrounding a lot of these people for years if not decades. Just that they've used their influence and power to quash it or brush it off. But since Weinstein, we've seen the floodgates open as women and men have felt emboldened to tell their stories of victimization. The OP linked to a story reported in a news source, reporting tangible evidence of a crime. Your comments implying he’s had an unsavory reputation for years is supported by absolutely nothing but your statement. Unless you are personally acquainted with Miller or those who know him, that isn’t much. When even the accusation of can be extremely damaging, there needs to be a certain level of scrutiny, and vague “everyone knows he’s an asshole” statements do not help.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Dec 19, 2017 17:03:10 GMT -5
It's really hard to say what happened. One one hand you have his wife's statement and then you have the accuser who has several people who back up her story. Is it possible that these people are all out to ruin his career? It's very possible, but unlikely. Then you have his wife coming out with her story. What are her motivations? Possible lack of income should this ruin his career. She could be telling the truth, but we have her word against several others.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Dec 19, 2017 17:03:37 GMT -5
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 19, 2017 17:10:45 GMT -5
That's the thing, though. We now have an actual accuser confirming the rumors and innuendo. I usually don't listen to rumors until outright accusations come out, but as with Louis CK and Bill Cosby, often where there's smoke, there's fire. Most of the people being accused of sexual harassment, misconduct, or worse aren't people who you're shocked by outside of a few individuals. There's been rumors and innuendos surrounding a lot of these people for years if not decades. Just that they've used their influence and power to quash it or brush it off. But since Weinstein, we've seen the floodgates open as women and men have felt emboldened to tell their stories of victimization. The OP linked to a story reported in a news source, reporting tangible evidence of a crime. Your comments implying he’s had an unsavory reputation for years is supported by absolutely nothing but your statement. Unless you are personally acquainted with Miller or those who know him, that isn’t much. When even the accusation of can be extremely damaging, there needs to be a certain level of scrutiny, and vague “everyone knows he’s an asshole” statements do not help. Ease up; there were people on multiple radio shows I listened to today on XM discussing how they had heard buzz for awhile that something like this would come out about Miller. This isn't innuendo in the thread, it was a clear buzz around the industry and among people who've worked with him.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2017 17:12:35 GMT -5
I could buy that this was going to happen, anyway, and they just chose to announce it when they did. I have literally never heard of this show, seen any advertisement for it, or heard anyone talk about him having some cartoon, much less this by name.
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