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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 19, 2017 19:32:10 GMT -5
There's something definitely out there and far too many credible sightings to simply dismiss. There's been credible sightings? To borrow a phrase, I want to believe, but after almost 200 years of folk tales, searches, and the rapid and massive expansion of mobile recording equipment the complete lack of hard evidence for the existence of Great Khali-sized hominids roaming the wilds of North America inevitably lead to the conclusion that they've never been anything more than fanciful folk tales.
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Post by The Zombie Mod The on Dec 19, 2017 19:36:25 GMT -5
What if Bigfoot actually does exist? Let the dude chill and live his life. he's a celebrity, you know how people react to celebrities.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2017 19:46:38 GMT -5
There's something definitely out there and far too many credible sightings to simply dismiss. There's been credible sightings? To borrow a phrase, I want to believe, but after almost 200 years of folk tales, searches, and the rapid and massive expansion of mobile recording equipment the complete lack of hard evidence for the existence of Great Khali-sized hominids roaming the wilds of North America inevitably lead to the conclusion that they've never been anything more than fanciful folk tales. Everyone has a camera in their pockets that is better than almost anything you can buy outside of heavily specialized professional equipment. The fact that no one has been able to get photographic evidence is pretty damning evidence against it being a thing. Combined with lack of stool, skeletons, tracks or literally any physical evidence definitely points in the direction it doesn't exist... save for at it's house on Mars.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 19:48:32 GMT -5
I think it's far more telling that people actual watch these shows like anything will ever happen on them. From the Finding Bigfoot Wikipedia page: It's had 9 seasons and 90 episodes (and counting) with exactly zero evidence of the existence of Bigfoot. How is it still a ratings draw? I assume that most of the draw is the "personalities" of the people on it (kind of like Duck Dynasty), coupled with delusional folk that actually believe in such nonsense enough to keep it a steady viewership.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 19, 2017 20:08:55 GMT -5
They're usually entertaining in that they're so earnest about searching for something that doesn't exist, and so matter of fact in their wrong-headed science.
It's like 'Bigfoot does X, so that's how we're tracking him'; whether it's calls, or whatever. They ascribe behavior to something that's shown no solid proof to ever exist and pretend they're doing actual research. You can't really be an expert on something that's not shown to be real, UNLESS you're saying you're an expert on the fictional lore and whatever.
As far as like legends and folklore and stuff, they can be pretty interesting. Anything regarding science ain't worth a damn.
Same thing with those ghost hunter shows and such really.
I'd have more respect for em if they'd cop to the fiction and not pretend to science; but they can be entertaining.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 19, 2017 20:56:15 GMT -5
They're usually entertaining in that they're so earnest about searching for something that doesn't exist, and so matter of fact in their wrong-headed science. It's like 'Bigfoot does X, so that's how we're tracking him'; whether it's calls, or whatever. They ascribe behavior to something that's shown no solid proof to ever exist and pretend they're doing actual research. You can't really be an expert on something that's not shown to be real, UNLESS you're saying you're an expert on the fictional lore and whatever. As far as like legends and folklore and stuff, they can be pretty interesting. Anything regarding science ain't worth a damn. Same thing with those ghost hunter shows and such really. I'd have more respect for em if they'd cop to the fiction and not pretend to science; but they can be entertaining. The best thing I've ever seen in regards to this was this crazy bastard that told the camera crew that he was baiting a trap with canned dog food. When asked how they knew it would work he responded "Because when I put it out it always disappears overnight". The camera guy asks "How do you know it's Bigfoot?" Crazy guy lots at him like he just shit his pants during the christmas church sermon and says "What the hell else would eat dog food!?!" PS: When they filmed it his dog was eating the dog food.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Dec 19, 2017 23:21:43 GMT -5
I think it's far more telling that people actual watch these shows like anything will ever happen on them. From the Finding Bigfoot Wikipedia page: It's had 9 seasons and 90 episodes (and counting) with exactly zero evidence of the existence of Bigfoot. How is it still a ratings draw? Hasn't Ghost Hunters on Syfy been on for like 15 years? Haven't found proof of anything but keeps on going.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 19, 2017 23:50:24 GMT -5
From the Finding Bigfoot Wikipedia page: It's had 9 seasons and 90 episodes (and counting) with exactly zero evidence of the existence of Bigfoot. How is it still a ratings draw? Hasn't Ghost Hunters on Syfy been on for like 15 years? Haven't found proof of anything but keeps on going. Canned last year after 230 episodes and specials.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 20, 2017 0:00:54 GMT -5
The ghost hunter stuff, while also being hokey and not science, you can at least go: "ok,they can claim these things are supernatural or whatever to excuse why they don't find any evidence and all that." That's a cop out, but you can see their rationale. Plus the want of some sort of afterlife is so hard-wired in all of us you can see why people go all Mulder and want to believe.
With things like Bigfoot though, it's supposed to be a real animal and act like an animal would WHILE having it both ways and be preternaturally intelligent, elusive etc.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 20, 2017 0:08:20 GMT -5
There's something definitely out there and far too many credible sightings to simply dismiss. There's been credible sightings? To borrow a phrase, I want to believe, but after almost 200 years of folk tales, searches, and the rapid and massive expansion of mobile recording equipment the complete lack of hard evidence for the existence of Great Khali-sized hominids roaming the wilds of North America inevitably lead to the conclusion that they've never been anything more than fanciful folk tales. What I mean is that people are seeing something. When I say credible sightings I mean reports of people who seem sincere, realistic, and aren't looking for a payday. Their claims of what they witnessed seem very plausible and something to take into account. I have a friend who lives in Minnesota, he actually does Bigfoot expeditions, he is on a fixed income, and goes into the woods searching for it with just a camera. On one instance he experienced a panic attack due to what he told me is him actually seeing Bigfoot. From what he told me the creature moved so quick and when he tried to pursue it he went into shock and thus had a panic attack. Now, I don't believe he was lying to me about it, in fact, he was truly convinced that he saw what he saw and that no one could tell him otherwise. There's been evidence such as hair, scat, saliva, and of course footprints. Granted it's not evidence such as a body or amazing video quality but it's something. While I agree that some are just exactly as you put it "fanciful folk tales". But not everyone is lying about what they've seen.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 20, 2017 0:09:33 GMT -5
The ghost hunter stuff, while also being hokey and not science, you can at least go: "ok,they can claim these things are supernatural or whatever to excuse why they don't find any evidence and all that." That's a cop out, but you can see their rationale. Plus the want of some sort of afterlife is so hard-wired in all of us you can see why people go all Mulder and want to believe. With things like Bigfoot though, it's supposed to be a real animal and act like an animal would WHILE having it both ways and be preternaturally intelligent, elusive etc. I think the Bigfoot animal is more along the lines of extremely intelligent and elusive. Whether it's supernatural or not is another discussion. But intelligent and elusive is a lot more likely.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Dec 20, 2017 0:29:23 GMT -5
Hasn't Ghost Hunters on Syfy been on for like 15 years? Haven't found proof of anything but keeps on going. Canned last year after 230 episodes and specials. Wow. I thought it was still going. But then I haven't even looked to see what Syfy is airing in a few years.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 20, 2017 0:29:35 GMT -5
It's not likely at all though. No animal is THAT intelligent and elusive. Not to mention NO fossil evidence, NO impact on any food chains, NO way for there to be breeding populations large enough to sustain the number of sightings, NO actual physical evidence of any kind.
Like if people want to claim that Bigfoot is supernatural, fine but that automatically eliminates any sort of scientific credibility. On the flip side of that is trying to classify it as an animal using science; and there's just no good evidence there to actually test.
No one can touch someone else's belief in something--if I said I believed in an invisible blue duck, well that'd just be quacktastic and I could set up any number of reasons of why you couldn't see it.
The trouble is, that's not science.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Dec 20, 2017 0:33:28 GMT -5
There's been credible sightings? To borrow a phrase, I want to believe, but after almost 200 years of folk tales, searches, and the rapid and massive expansion of mobile recording equipment the complete lack of hard evidence for the existence of Great Khali-sized hominids roaming the wilds of North America inevitably lead to the conclusion that they've never been anything more than fanciful folk tales. What I mean is that people are seeing something. When I say credible sightings I mean reports of people who seem sincere, realistic, and aren't looking for a payday. Their claims of what they witnessed seem very plausible and something to take into account. I have a friend who lives in Minnesota, he actually does Bigfoot expeditions, he is on a fixed income, and goes into the woods searching for it with just a camera. On one instance he experienced a panic attack due to what he told me is him actually seeing Bigfoot. From what he told me the creature moved so quick and when he tried to pursue it he went into shock and thus had a panic attack. Now, I don't believe he was lying to me about it, in fact, he was truly convinced that he saw what he saw and that no one could tell him otherwise. There's been evidence such as hair, scat, saliva, and of course footprints. Granted it's not evidence such as a body or amazing video quality but it's something. While I agree that some are just exactly as you put it "fanciful folk tales". But not everyone is lying about what they've seen. Right at 8 years ago I think I might have seen Bigfoot. I live way out in the country. Most nights I go for a 4 mile walk. There is a path right off the road I walk down that if i have to go pee I will step off into the woods on that path and go pee. I am a bit off in the woods and it is dark,but way off in the distance I see a tall hair covered thing walking on two legs. Couldn't make out any clothing at all. So either it was a bigfoot. Or some hairy redneck in my area was having a late night nude stroll in the woods.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 20, 2017 0:38:41 GMT -5
And that's the thing: people don't HAVE to be lying to just be mistaken, especially if they're pre-disposed to believing in something. If there was such a thing as Ferret-man 'researchers', you can be damned skippy they'd have the occasional Ferret-man sighting.
eyewitness testimony is notoriously bad because of how easily influenced the human memory is. So many studies have been to show how unreliable memory is.
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Post by crash1984 on Dec 20, 2017 2:58:40 GMT -5
Forget Bigfoot why not go looking for his redneck cousin Big Butt?
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 20, 2017 7:32:12 GMT -5
How can there be any Bigfeet when John Marston killed them like 100 years ago?
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 20, 2017 9:20:52 GMT -5
Hasn't Ghost Hunters on Syfy been on for like 15 years? Haven't found proof of anything but keeps on going. Canned last year after 230 episodes and specials. Remember when they used to do crossovers with WWE?
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Dec 20, 2017 9:53:49 GMT -5
Wait, you're telling me that WASN'T him in the Impact Zone?
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Dec 20, 2017 9:55:46 GMT -5
Found 'em!!
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