Allie Kitsune
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Always Feelin' Foxy.
Celestial Princess in Exile.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 2, 2018 15:27:26 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}ROH announced Cody v. Kenny st SCoH just after this went up. {Spoiler}Surprised Cody and Kenny aren't saving it for the "All In" show.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Feb 2, 2018 15:53:28 GMT -5
I wonder if Cody genuinely likes cigars or is just doing it as an evil-character-trope thing.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Feb 2, 2018 17:33:40 GMT -5
but why was that penis pretender in the video? was he gonna payoff that pigeon to take a bump too?!
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Post by cabbageboy on Feb 2, 2018 18:03:50 GMT -5
Is the UNO Lakefront Arena a 10,000 seat venue? It was really only shown on the ROH site as half the venue as having tickets.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 2, 2018 18:49:53 GMT -5
Is the UNO Lakefront Arena a 10,000 seat venue? It was really only shown on the ROH site as half the venue as having tickets. 8,993 according to Wikipedia. Take up space for production and yeah, probably around 5k.
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y4j1981
Dennis Stamp
Rowsdower
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Post by y4j1981 on Feb 2, 2018 23:16:39 GMT -5
Tama, Tanga, and Fale talk about their recent title win. Then Tama speaks about Bullet Club. He's not to happy bout the state it's in.
Also, Totally NSFW, Lots of cursing
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 3, 2018 0:08:28 GMT -5
Tama, Tanga, and Fale talk about their recent title win. Then Tama speaks about Bullet Club. He's not to happy bout the state it's in. Also, Totally NSFW, Lots of cursing Sounds a lot like Cody's mutiny isn't going to get him control of the group, but probably end with him shot out too while the Tongans take Bullet Club back and refocus the faction back on what they started as while Omega takes The Bucks and forms his own stable that's a bit more face-ish. Which is totally needed honestly, for both what Bullet Club is and for giving New Japan a big shake-up in the factions.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Feb 3, 2018 0:16:18 GMT -5
he'd be a lot more intimidating if he didn't sound like he was going through puberty midway through the promo
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lionheart21
Patti Mayonnaise
Once did a thing...
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Post by lionheart21 on Feb 3, 2018 0:44:42 GMT -5
Tama, Tanga, and Fale talk about their recent title win. Then Tama speaks about Bullet Club. He's not to happy bout the state it's in. Also, Totally NSFW, Lots of cursing Sounds a lot like Cody's mutiny isn't going to get him control of the group, but probably end with him shot out too while the Tongans take Bullet Club back and refocus the faction back on what they started as while Omega takes The Bucks and forms his own stable that's a bit more face-ish. Which is totally needed honestly, for both what Bullet Club is and for giving New Japan a big shake-up in the factions. I'd be all for having a Bullet Club led by Tama Tonga
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Post by sportatorium on Feb 3, 2018 12:39:29 GMT -5
he'd be a lot more intimidating if he didn't sound like he was going through puberty midway through the promo ...because what’s intimidating about Mike Tyson & Brock Lesnar are how they sound when they talk.
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Post by corndog on Feb 3, 2018 13:18:00 GMT -5
Tama, Tanga, and Fale talk about their recent title win. Then Tama speaks about Bullet Club. He's not to happy bout the state it's in. Also, Totally NSFW, Lots of cursing Tama is in no mood for BS anymore. I would love to see him get a chance to lead Bullet Club Japan. It almost seems as if this is going to splinter Bullet Club into 3 seperate groups.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 3, 2018 13:46:47 GMT -5
It's simultaneously sad and hilarious to me that the Elite do more to develop character and storylines in a 10-20 minute, once a week, self-shot, self-edited, self-written Youtube series than WWE can do with literally unlimited time on their own network, 5+ hours of weekly tv, and a huge writing and production team. It makes it so much easier when you don't have to go through 8 writers or bosses to approve everything. I think the only oversight they've ever had was them actually telling NJPW it made more sense to tease Marty ousting Adam Cole on the show rather than NJPW just posting "Oh Marty is Bullet Club's BOSJ representative" on twitter, and NJPW was just like "yeah that works do what you want"
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 3, 2018 13:51:20 GMT -5
Only issue with Tama taking the lead of one group is that after a couple of G1s he still hasn't really broken through as a standout singles guy. I dig his work and love how much he and Roa have grown as a team, but it seems clear they want the factions to be headed by guys that could comfortably headline big cards as singles workers.
Still, I'd dig the overall direction, getting BC "back to its roots", opening the door for new members who fit that style more. Like everyone's been saying, part of the fun here is realizing there are dozens of different ways things could go with this storyline.
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Post by sportatorium on Feb 3, 2018 19:33:19 GMT -5
Only issue with Tama taking the lead of one group is that after a couple of G1s he still hasn't really broken through as a standout singles guy. I dig his work and love how much he and Roa have grown as a team, but it seems clear they want the factions to be headed by guys that could comfortably headline big cards as singles workers. Still, I'd dig the overall direction, getting BC "back to its roots", opening the door for new members who fit that style more. Like everyone's been saying, part of the fun here is realizing there are dozens of different ways things could go with this storyline. To be fair though, Cody hasn’t proven that he can headline a big card as the main draw. He’s on the card, but I don’t think the Japanese audience has been buying tickets to see Cody Rhodes as the reason to attend the show. Tama has the presence to get some big wins, has the backup with Fale & his brother and they are actually New Japan guys rather than ROH guys.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 3, 2018 21:35:03 GMT -5
Only issue with Tama taking the lead of one group is that after a couple of G1s he still hasn't really broken through as a standout singles guy. I dig his work and love how much he and Roa have grown as a team, but it seems clear they want the factions to be headed by guys that could comfortably headline big cards as singles workers. Still, I'd dig the overall direction, getting BC "back to its roots", opening the door for new members who fit that style more. Like everyone's been saying, part of the fun here is realizing there are dozens of different ways things could go with this storyline. That could depend on if Hikuleo wouldn't be primed then to take Tama's place in the tag team while they work to establish him as a more notable singles guy, since right now he's very much in that position of being a guy who's going to see most of time spent in the tag division just because he and his brother are one of the main heavyweight teams going right now. Kind of a similar fear to people not being sure if Omega was headliner material when he first started up, but he grew in the role and thrived. Wouldn't say Tama's on Omega's level, but he arguably doesn't have to be to put things into contention. And one big benefit to Tama's leadership would be to maybe also retool the faction in regards to using it for a push on the islands, where New Japan clearly wants to make more of a move toward. With the more gaijin-heavy presence in New Japan and more long-term foreigners around, the group could benefit not only from refocusing on their roots but on narrowing things down a little bit more. Not like kicking all those dudes to the curb wouldn't already leave an islander-heavy group anyway. Roll with that.
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lionheart21
Patti Mayonnaise
Once did a thing...
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Post by lionheart21 on Feb 3, 2018 22:34:48 GMT -5
Only issue with Tama taking the lead of one group is that after a couple of G1s he still hasn't really broken through as a standout singles guy. I dig his work and love how much he and Roa have grown as a team, but it seems clear they want the factions to be headed by guys that could comfortably headline big cards as singles workers. Still, I'd dig the overall direction, getting BC "back to its roots", opening the door for new members who fit that style more. Like everyone's been saying, part of the fun here is realizing there are dozens of different ways things could go with this storyline. To be fair though, Cody hasn’t proven that he can headline a big card as the main draw. He’s on the card, but I don’t think the Japanese audience has been buying tickets to see Cody Rhodes as the reason to attend the show. Tama has the presence to get some big wins, has the backup with Fale & his brother and they are actually New Japan guys rather than ROH guys. Also helps that Tama's been in Bullet Club since Day 1.
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y4j1981
Dennis Stamp
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Post by y4j1981 on Feb 3, 2018 22:41:45 GMT -5
Tama, Tanga, and Fale talk about their recent title win. Then Tama speaks about Bullet Club. He's not to happy bout the state it's in. Also, Totally NSFW, Lots of cursing Sounds a lot like Cody's mutiny isn't going to get him control of the group, but probably end with him shot out too while the Tongans take Bullet Club back and refocus the faction back on what they started as while Omega takes The Bucks and forms his own stable that's a bit more face-ish. Which is totally needed honestly, for both what Bullet Club is and for giving New Japan a big shake-up in the factions. But what about Marty? Won't someone please think of the children Marty?
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 3, 2018 22:50:32 GMT -5
Only issue with Tama taking the lead of one group is that after a couple of G1s he still hasn't really broken through as a standout singles guy. I dig his work and love how much he and Roa have grown as a team, but it seems clear they want the factions to be headed by guys that could comfortably headline big cards as singles workers. Still, I'd dig the overall direction, getting BC "back to its roots", opening the door for new members who fit that style more. Like everyone's been saying, part of the fun here is realizing there are dozens of different ways things could go with this storyline. To be fair though, Cody hasn’t proven that he can headline a big card as the main draw. He’s on the card, but I don’t think the Japanese audience has been buying tickets to see Cody Rhodes as the reason to attend the show. Tama has the presence to get some big wins, has the backup with Fale & his brother and they are actually New Japan guys rather than ROH guys. Definitely agreed, I don't see Cody taking a full-time leadership spot, either, as he's a ROH guy and a guy who's capable of having very good matches, but isn't necessarily on that same level that guys like Okada, Naito, and Omega are. I kind of look at it as a situation where you have guys like Goto and Ishii serving as gatekeepers to the NJPW main event and Suzuki as just a notch below the other faction leaders, and each of those guys are capable of consistent ****-level output; I figure the promotion would like to have people at or a notch above that level in full leadership positions, and I'm not sure Cody or Tama are there...which is not a slight toward either guy as they're both really good, but it's more a testament to just how strong NJPW's upper tier is. Though like SCJA says, a Tama-led, Tongan-focused group would certainly help with the south Pacific expansion and get back to a "leaner and meaner" Club, and there's also no reason why they couldn't roll like they did with Karl Anderson: Anderson was never the ace of the Bullet Club, was usually the gatekeeper or top tag guy instead, but he still served as a mouthpiece and leader alongside Devitt and was arguably more overtly the leader afterward with AJ more in a "hired ace" role. Go ahead and have Tama as the leader, but maybe seek out a new "faction ace" that he brings in.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 3, 2018 23:17:42 GMT -5
To be fair though, Cody hasn’t proven that he can headline a big card as the main draw. He’s on the card, but I don’t think the Japanese audience has been buying tickets to see Cody Rhodes as the reason to attend the show. Tama has the presence to get some big wins, has the backup with Fale & his brother and they are actually New Japan guys rather than ROH guys. Definitely agreed, I don't see Cody taking a full-time leadership spot, either, as he's a ROH guy and a guy who's capable of having very good matches, but isn't necessarily on that same level that guys like Okada, Naito, and Omega are. I kind of look at it as a situation where you have guys like Goto and Ishii serving as gatekeepers to the NJPW main event and Suzuki as just a notch below the other faction leaders, and each of those guys are capable of consistent ****-level output; I figure the promotion would like to have people at or a notch above that level in full leadership positions, and I'm not sure Cody or Tama are there...which is not a slight toward either guy as they're both really good, but it's more a testament to just how strong NJPW's upper tier is. Though like SCJA says, a Tama-led, Tongan-focused group would certainly help with the south Pacific expansion and get back to a "leaner and meaner" Club, and there's also no reason why they couldn't roll like they did with Karl Anderson: Anderson was never the ace of the Bullet Club, was usually the gatekeeper or top tag guy instead, but he still served as a mouthpiece and leader alongside Devitt and was arguably more overtly the leader afterward with AJ more in a "hired ace" role. Go ahead and have Tama as the leader, but maybe seek out a new "faction ace" that he brings in. Well where I think this gets really interesting is in what happens with the other factions out there. I think if an impending CHAOS split happens as a result of Jay White's tensions with Okada and they trim down the factions to a more manageable size, that opens up a lot of room suddenly for a possible new Bullet Club to take a bit of a backseat for a while or slide into a role more in line with a heel Taguchi Japan, who don't have anyone at the very top of the card to play that role but are still a factor in the show itself.
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Glitch
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Post by Glitch on Feb 12, 2018 6:39:51 GMT -5
One of the Bucks does it all on his iPhone. He upgraded to a MacBook Pro a few months ago.....for editing. They still shoot it on iPhones though. Also, the next episode has been taking a while.
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