Dumb jock.

[castletonsnob]

In your experience, is the dumb jock stereotype true? And is it true that teachers give players on the football/basketball team passing grades just so they can play?

[arrogantmodel]

I played three sports and a lot of my friends played more than one. We all graduated with honors. I think that died down a long time ago. You had to go to class and do pretty well to play at my school.

Not that it still doesn't happen, but I don't think a lot of schools can get away with giving athletes special treatment for too long. Not with everybody with a twitter account being investigative journalists now.

[Alice Syndrome]

Feb 6, 2018 18:07:21 GMT -5 castletonsnob said:

In your experience, is the dumb jock stereotype true? And is it true that teachers give players on the football/basketball team passing grades just so they can play?

OK, first point: Gronk

Second point: John Oliver did a report on this a few years back, and there were promising athletes being sucked into colleges and being given some joke course in Urdu and no other courses just so they could be on the football team.

[OGBoardPoster2005]

College sports has become a joke for the most part. Chicago ended football in 1936, derailing their entire program to keep emphasis on academics. Ohio State declined a bowl bid in 1961 because of empathizing athletics too much.

Hell my favorite school, the University of Maryland did it in 1955 after having an Ohio State like run and winning two Nattys in 5 years. In a CFP system, they would've made playoffs 4 times in 5 years.

You'll never see that again though.

[Toilet Paper Roll]

I went to a small private catholic school most of the athletes were all scholastic. I did track, football and basketball and graduated near the top of my class with honors. in College I played football and outside of a few guys who kinda seemed to fall off due to the freedom of being away from their parents and experimenting with drugs and alcohol were all pretty bright guys.

[Deleted]

I played football in high school and I definitely saw the star players get preferential treatment. Not sure how it is now in the social media world, but it was definitely a thing when I was hanging and banging.

[unc40]

I went to a school that like to brag how academic they were yet right after I graduated I found out three of the star athletes in my class didn't have the grades to graduate, although they did let them be in the graduation ceremony. These three star athletes never missed any game so the school wasn't that strict when it came to academics.

[Push R Truth]

I went to a mid-major school that regularly sends it's Basketball Team to the NCAA Tournament. I was high up in the student council and was privy to a lot of information.

It was common to have a 101 class like "Intro to American Cities" and have 50 people booked to a classroom with 10 seats. 30+ Athletes and like 5 normal students. Because who would take "Intro to American Cities". And there was never a day when they needed extra seats. In fact, some classes like that were 100% student athlete so the classes never happened. There literally would be empty rooms for 'active' classes.


And it wasn't just football and men's basketball. it was everything. Women's diving. Men's golf. The only athlete I personally knew that actually went to a class with any regularity was a backup center for Men's Basketball that was having his second knee surgery. He knew his playing career was toast so he was trying to actually go to class to get something from his scholarship. He now manages three locations for a hotel chain.



Now all that said, that doesn't mean all the athletes did that. It was just easily available to those that chose that path.

[Aboutreika18]

Feb 6, 2018 18:57:34 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

Feb 6, 2018 18:07:21 GMT -5 castletonsnob said:

In your experience, is the dumb jock stereotype true? And is it true that teachers give players on the football/basketball team passing grades just so they can play?

OK, first point: Gronk

Second point: John Oliver did a report on this a few years back, and there were promising athletes being sucked into colleges and being given some joke course in Urdu and no other courses just so they could be on the football team.

Wait...what?

[Cyno]

There was a lot of crossover between the geek and the jock set in my high school. Two big ass dudes on the football team were also on the chess team. One of those dudes in my grade was also in AP courses.

There were dumb jocks, but I think you see the passes in schools where sports are god. I don't know how widespread this is in high schools outside of a few known examples, but it's definitely something that happens in the big Division I schools where the only reason those dudes are even there are because leagues like the NBA or NFL require it.

[Limity (BLM)]

I would argue that there's more truth in the second statement than the first. It has been proven a mulyitude of times that there are those schools out there that treat athletes differently, protecting them academically so they can excel athletically.

As to the dumb jock stereotype, that is more perpetuated by others, that need a good healthy dose of unearned self esteem.

[Alice Syndrome]

Feb 7, 2018 14:48:19 GMT -5 Aboutreika18 said:

Feb 6, 2018 18:57:34 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

OK, first point: Gronk

Second point: John Oliver did a report on this a few years back, and there were promising athletes being sucked into colleges and being given some joke course in Urdu and no other courses just so they could be on the football team.

Wait...what?

No, seriously. I misremembered a little (it was Swahili) but still...

[unc40]

9:15 had me laughing so hard I had tears coming out of my eyes.