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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 9, 2018 8:48:12 GMT -5
I'd try to be a Spring/Summer league and work with the NFL. Try to basically be a farm/ex-tended practice squad kind of place. Probably keep the amount of games at 8-10. Start small, you can always expand if it works.
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Post by axebomber on Feb 9, 2018 9:39:07 GMT -5
And here's an addendum to me previous point. Make yourself an attractive alternative over the CFL for players too. Because as it stands those are the best guys you'll potentially get. And for that matter, take a long hard look at their business model and learn how they make things work. Actually, merging with the CFL would be awesome. It would never happen, but the CFL only has 9 teams, add the 8 XFL ones and that would be a decent sized league. Add a Mexico City team and call it the North American Football League. If not, then they have to do what many have already said- 1. Teams should be in cities without a franchise - San Antonio, St Louis, San Diego, Portland, Memphis, Newark, etc 2. No direct competition, play during off season 3. No politics 4. Shorter games 5. Real talent - there's enough well known QB's out there that could give the league instant cred - Colin, Tebow, RG3, Manziel 6. Safer rules - no helmet to helmet hits - severe penalty (ejected from game?) 7. 5 year commitment TV/Stadium deal 8. No WWE involvement 9. Some sort of relationship with the NFL 10. A name change. I know they're sticking with XFL but that makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 10:09:34 GMT -5
every team needs a different owner for credibility
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Feb 9, 2018 10:24:12 GMT -5
NFL is already seeing diminishing returns in a marketplace it dominates. In the next decade there’s a real possibility a dearth of new recruits will threaten it’s existence. This is almost the equivalent of trying to open a video rental chain in 2018. I don’t see any way it ends well.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 9, 2018 10:59:12 GMT -5
Clear rules. College overtime rules
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 9, 2018 11:06:33 GMT -5
And here's an addendum to me previous point. Make yourself an attractive alternative over the CFL for players too. Because as it stands those are the best guys you'll potentially get. And for that matter, take a long hard look at their business model and learn how they make things work. Actually, merging with the CFL would be awesome. It would never happen, but the CFL only has 9 teams, add the 8 XFL ones and that would be a decent sized league. Add a Mexico City team and call it the North American Football League. That would be almost as big a pipe dream as the NFL merging with the XFL, to be honest. The XFL started because Vince McMahon tried to buy the CFL and was rejected in the first place, and the CFL nearly got destroyed when they tried expanding into America in the past- and when they did, they did everything right that this thread was saying (different style of play with the CFL, focus on cities with no NFL team).
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Post by axebomber on Feb 9, 2018 11:17:01 GMT -5
Actually, merging with the CFL would be awesome. It would never happen, but the CFL only has 9 teams, add the 8 XFL ones and that would be a decent sized league. Add a Mexico City team and call it the North American Football League. That would be almost as big a pipe dream as the NFL merging with the XFL, to be honest. The XFL started because Vince McMahon tried to buy the CFL and was rejected in the first place, and the CFL nearly got destroyed when they tried expanding into America in the past- and when they did, they did everything right that this thread was saying (different style of play with the CFL, focus on cities with no NFL team). That's why I said it would never happen. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the fantasy football aspect. It wasn't anywhere near as popular in 2000 as it is now. I wonder if that factor's into the XFL relaunch?
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Post by trust on Feb 9, 2018 12:27:39 GMT -5
I will watch it if they know what a catch is and not change the definition of what is a catch in ever game. That is one of my biggest problems with the NFL.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 9, 2018 12:45:36 GMT -5
Actually, merging with the CFL would be awesome. It would never happen, but the CFL only has 9 teams, add the 8 XFL ones and that would be a decent sized league. Add a Mexico City team and call it the North American Football League. That would be almost as big a pipe dream as the NFL merging with the XFL, to be honest. The XFL started because Vince McMahon tried to buy the CFL and was rejected in the first place, and the CFL nearly got destroyed when they tried expanding into America in the past- and when they did, they did everything right that this thread was saying (different style of play with the CFL, focus on cities with no NFL team). yeah those were dark times for the CFL. at least the Baltimore Stallions (formerly- I shit you not- the Baltimore CFL Colts) became the new version of Montreal Alouettes (that was the really f***ed up thing, you give teams to american markets that may not even be interested but ignore the giant Montreal-sized hole that your league had for the last 5 or 6 years).
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Post by hargh on Feb 9, 2018 12:50:45 GMT -5
Step 1: Spend a whole lot of money.
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Success
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Post by nisidhe on Feb 9, 2018 13:08:55 GMT -5
Really, to succeed, you're going to need to make inroads into larger markets. If New York and LA can have multiple teams in the NFL, they can afford at least one more for XFL. Mix in a few smaller markets without an NFL presence; even throw in Toronto and/or Montreal and/or Vancouver and/or Calgary if you can keep it initially to the spring and summer pre-NFL/CFL seasons, if it means being able to pull in some of the CFL talent and extend the playing year for those players. But you really need to peg down the really big markets to get the revenue stream up to a reliable growth pattern.
I suspect, though, that Vince is going to be taking bites out of a smaller talent pie if the recruitment for the NFL continues to dwindle. More attention to player safety can be not just a reassurance, but a selling point for the XFL if it chooses to take that route.
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Post by IMPRESSIVE knightwing1047 on Feb 9, 2018 14:08:50 GMT -5
Basically, they need to be an alternative without being too alternative.
A few of my key points for them:
1. Do not try to compete with the NFL. At all. Show respect to the NFL. A lot of other posters here have said be a spring/summer league. That's a great idea. Do not intersect with the NFL at all.
2. Do not shy too far away from traditional football rules. I'd go similar to NCAA rules.
3. Faster pace of play. It's got to offer something different. Maybe even three periods (2 intermissions), instead of 4 quarters.
4. Offer something different in terms of production. I know they started the whole skycam thing, now they need something else. Maybe a helmet gopro perspective?
5. Absolutely no WWE crossover of any kind.
6. Have an equal distribution in major markets and small markets. Exploit city rivalries, too. Make all the stadiums look different.
7. No "shock" crap. We know we're not gonna see bewbz in the cheerleaders' locker room, so just let it be a well-played game of football.
I hope for the best for them.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 9, 2018 14:11:38 GMT -5
Really, to succeed, you're going to need to make inroads into larger markets. If New York and LA can have multiple teams in the NFL, they can afford at least one more for XFL. Mix in a few smaller markets without an NFL presence; even throw in Toronto and/or Montreal and/or Vancouver and/or Calgary if you can keep it initially to the spring and summer pre-NFL/CFL seasons, if it means being able to pull in some of the CFL talent and extend the playing year for those players. But you really need to peg down the really big markets to get the revenue stream up to a reliable growth pattern. I suspect, though, that Vince is going to be taking bites out of a smaller talent pie if the recruitment for the NFL continues to dwindle. More attention to player safety can be not just a reassurance, but a selling point for the XFL if it chooses to take that route. I'll say this, and I can't say it enough, it would a VERY tough sell to get Canadian cities to buy in. The CFL is a Canadian product with a very dedicated fan base. Getting them to buy into an American product that'd possibly threaten that is almost a doomed idea from the outset. If you ask a Canadian to pick between a Canadian product and an American one, unless the American one is objectively better they'll pick the Canadian option every time.
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Post by Gremlin on Feb 9, 2018 15:07:48 GMT -5
Ahmed Johnson, Sideline Reporter.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 9, 2018 15:38:05 GMT -5
Basically, they need to be an alternative without being too alternative. 7. No "shock" crap. We know we're not gonna see bewbz in the cheerleaders' locker room, so just let it be a well-played game of football. If this company wants to be around more than 1 season they damn well better be showing cheerleader boobs in the locker room. Preferably after each down. I think in this day and age, with easy access to pornography that kind of faux titillation is a dead idea.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Feb 9, 2018 19:21:47 GMT -5
1. Quality on-field product. This was the biggest thing that doomed the original league.
2. Finding a balance between big markets with media coverage, and not competing with the NFL for fan loyalty. New York, LA and Chicago are musts, since without the biggest markets, they will look bush league, but they have to do enough to get noticed in spite of sometimes more than one established team in the market. Generally, they should avoid cities with NFL teams.
3. Real salary cap. Teams can't create disparities, or risk going under from spending like drunken sailors.
4. If teams are ever owned by individuals, the potential owners have to be thoroughly vetted to make sure they are financially solvent, of good character, and won't do anything to put their franchise or the league at risk.
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 9, 2018 22:46:31 GMT -5
Make it a woman's league.
It's the one essentially untapped niche that could be marketed as a theoretically viable alternative; where your stars are actually your stars and won't be off to the NFL the moment a contract is offered.
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Post by bootytea on Feb 9, 2018 22:53:50 GMT -5
Make it about football and not a platform for celebrities/athletes to force their views onto the audience.
It should also be less gimmicky that it was before, fun, but not over the top.
I genuinely want this league to succeed because it will hopefully inspire similar programs that won't tell me what I'm supposed to believe! Shit like that is nauseating.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Feb 9, 2018 22:55:08 GMT -5
It can't look like the NFL, it needs to be different and own itself. I love the ideas stated earlier about using smaller markets for the teams. Get a contract with ESPN or a smaller sports network. They're lacking in content and putting on a smaller market version of a major sport is helpful.
Eliminate a lot of penalties that aren't ones that create injuries. Pass interference, holding.. hell get rid of kicking
It needs to be its own entity.
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Post by dreamer75 on Feb 10, 2018 0:17:25 GMT -5
Troll answers (In Aqua Teen Carl Voice): Get rid of every penalty from the last 10 years, allowing blitzing every play, give Philly a team (so they win and set their town on fire again), and allow disrespectful and elaborate touch own celebrations...you know things that make the game interesting and fun to watch
Real answers make the game interesting and fun to watch, NFL can be a real chore to watch
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