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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 18, 2018 14:53:13 GMT -5
MLB: I felt like Elijah Dukes was going to be a legit star for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Oops, turned out to be a dickhead malcontent. I'm still waiting for Avisail Garcia to become the next Miguel Cabrera. While Phil Hughes wasn't a huge flop. He clearly crumbled under the weight of the expectations of him being the heir apparent ace for the Yankees. What with his propensity to give up HRs and a fastball that didn't miss bats whatsoever. NFL: Scott Tolzien. I dug the rocket he's got for an arm. He put up plenty of yards in relief of Aaron Rodgers in a game versus the Giants a few years back. However, he's never attained any other skills than that arm. NBA: Danny Green. I understand in Popovich's system, players have to sacrifice some of their skills, but Green lost a lot of potential money fitting into the Spurs' system. I'll also throw in a vote for Harrison Barnes. He wanted no part of Game 7 vs. the Cavs two years ago, and finds himself mired in obscurity in Dallas. But Danny Green is a good player and that's all he ever was going to be In regards to Hughes, yea he he was up and down. Hell the Yankees thought so highly of him they wouldn't include him to get Johan Santana who was arguably the best pitcher and at least top 5 in the league at that point. Hughes did rebound in the bullpen and came to have a good year as a starter before leaving I would go more so Joba Chaimberlain. He looked like he was going to be the heir apparent to Mo before the Yankees f***ed him up with "Joba Rules". Should had never been given any looks as a starter and it seems all his confidence went away. Add on he broke his leg and it was downhill from there
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 18, 2018 15:13:28 GMT -5
MLB: I felt like Elijah Dukes was going to be a legit star for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Oops, turned out to be a dickhead malcontent. I'm still waiting for Avisail Garcia to become the next Miguel Cabrera. While Phil Hughes wasn't a huge flop. He clearly crumbled under the weight of the expectations of him being the heir apparent ace for the Yankees. What with his propensity to give up HRs and a fastball that didn't miss bats whatsoever. NFL: Scott Tolzien. I dug the rocket he's got for an arm. He put up plenty of yards in relief of Aaron Rodgers in a game versus the Giants a few years back. However, he's never attained any other skills than that arm.NBA: Danny Green. I understand in Popovich's system, players have to sacrifice some of their skills, but Green lost a lot of potential money fitting into the Spurs' system. I'll also throw in a vote for Harrison Barnes. He wanted no part of Game 7 vs. the Cavs two years ago, and finds himself mired in obscurity in Dallas. That's Wisconsin QBs Not Named Russell Wilson for you.
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Post by S-Chrome on Apr 19, 2018 1:19:12 GMT -5
I would go more so Joba Chaimberlain. He looked like he was going to be the heir apparent to Mo before the Yankees f***ed him up with "Joba Rules". Should had never been given any looks as a starter and it seems all his confidence went away. Add on he broke his leg and it was downhill from there Historically, I go the other way in terms of Joba. I always thought they should've stuck with original plan of him being a starter. Cashman and Co. got swept up in how damn good he was coming out of the bullpen that they lost sight of the big picture. Then of course, jerking him back and forth between starter and reliever in '09-'10 didn't help either.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 19, 2018 10:40:54 GMT -5
Historically, I go the other way in terms of Joba. I always thought they should've stuck with original plan of him being a starter. Cashman and Co. got swept up in how damn good he was coming out of the bullpen that they lost sight of the big picture. Then of course, jerking him back and forth between starter and reliever in '09-'10 didn't help either. I see what you are saying but for me his stuff played way better in the bullpen. This wasn’t a Phil Hughes case where he had good enough stuff to be a starter but got put in the bullpen because he thought too much. Joba took too much off his fastball and nothing else really worked as well. He’s a guy who did better going max effort and his emotions was able to carry that
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 21, 2018 11:48:37 GMT -5
Matt Lienart The guy was a top Ten first rounder in 2006 and was set to be the long term plans for the AZ Cardinals to be beaten out by at the time many thought was about done Kurt Warner who lead the team to aSuperbowl run. Matt never made it as a starter anywhere.
Matt Flynn: He was Green Bay's backup QB and had this crazy good game backup up Rogers and than because of that teams where bidding big money for him to become there starter and well he didn't work out.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 21, 2018 12:53:13 GMT -5
The 3 pitchers in the Yankees farm system that they nicknamed the Killer B's. They were supposed to be the future of the Yankees pitching staff. Out of the 3, Delin Betances was the only one who made it to the majors and became a reliever instead of a starter. And he's even starting to flame out in that role.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 14:25:40 GMT -5
Nail Yakupov was hyped up as the next big NHL player, and I honestly thought he was gonna be the one to make the Oilers a good team again.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 21, 2018 16:20:37 GMT -5
Nail Yakupov was hyped up as the next big NHL player, and I honestly thought he was gonna be the one to make the Oilers a good team again. Yeah, As a Blues fan I remember how pumped we where as fans to get him and well didn't do much and was healthy scratches most of the time.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 22, 2018 1:01:21 GMT -5
Darko - Yeah, yeah, I know. Marcus Banks Marcus Williams
Ryan Leaf Joey Harrington Charles Rogers
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 22, 2018 8:36:37 GMT -5
Matt Lienart The guy was a top Ten first rounder in 2006 and was set to be the long term plans for the AZ Cardinals to be beaten out by at the time many thought was about done Kurt Warner who lead the team to aSuperbowl run. Matt never made it as a starter anywhere. Matt Flynn: He was Green Bay's backup QB and had this crazy good game backup up Rogers and than because of that teams where bidding big money for him to become there starter and well he didn't work out. Flynn was disappointing but he was way better than the other QB Green Bay drafted: Brian "Can't Move, Can't Throw" Brohm. But Leinart? I figured he was going to be a colossal waste of a draft pick from the beginning.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 12:50:42 GMT -5
Leinart, Vince Young and Reggie Bush were suppose to be the big 3 players that draft year. And while Young and Bush had some good years, they didn't exactly set the world on fire like they were hyped up to be.
And of course Houston took Mario Williams over all of them and people gave them shit for it.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Apr 22, 2018 14:41:32 GMT -5
Where does JD Drew fall? I remember seeing his profile in ESPN The Magazine. Then him and Boras were bitches with Philly. Dude goes to the Cardinals, is very lackluster. He even gets criticized by management for being lazy.
Bounces around to Atlanta, LA, Boston, wins a Series in '07. Gets an All Star selection. But he was nowhere near the Bryce Harper of 1998 a lot of people thought he would be. He retired in 2011.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 22, 2018 19:20:35 GMT -5
Leinart, Vince Young and Reggie Bush were suppose to be the big 3 players that draft year. And while Young and Bush had some good years, they didn't exactly set the world on fire like they were hyped up to be. And of course Houston took Mario Williams over all of them and people gave them shit for it. Bush was never going to be an every down back in the NFL, he was always suited to be a flex player. Don't know why everybody expected him to be an every down back.
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Post by sfvega on Apr 23, 2018 7:54:53 GMT -5
Leinart, Vince Young and Reggie Bush were suppose to be the big 3 players that draft year. And while Young and Bush had some good years, they didn't exactly set the world on fire like they were hyped up to be. And of course Houston took Mario Williams over all of them and people gave them shit for it. Bush was never going to be an every down back in the NFL, he was always suited to be a flex player. Don't know why everybody expected him to be an every down back. Bush was just a more unconventional back. He could have been an every down back, if used correctly. He was like a rich man's Larry Centers. He was never gonna be a workhorse runner, but could have been better if he had fully lived up to his potential. He showed a lot of flashes, but was just never as dynamic in the speed of the pros as he was in the defenseless Pac 10. Also Shulk, there was hype backlash of passing over VY in that market, but Mario was/is the best DL prospect of the last 20+ years. The experts really didn't roast them over it. Casual Texas football fans, however....
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 23, 2018 22:15:19 GMT -5
Hey Mets fans, what about Lastings Milledge? I remember he debuted against the Giants and kinda kicked their ass, got in trouble because he was too immature or something, then he fell off the planet.
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 26, 2018 23:02:42 GMT -5
MLB: I felt like Elijah Dukes was going to be a legit star for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Oops, turned out to be a dickhead malcontent. I'm still waiting for Avisail Garcia to become the next Miguel Cabrera. While Phil Hughes wasn't a huge flop. He clearly crumbled under the weight of the expectations of him being the heir apparent ace for the Yankees. What with his propensity to give up HRs and a fastball that didn't miss bats whatsoever. NFL: Scott Tolzien. I dug the rocket he's got for an arm. He put up plenty of yards in relief of Aaron Rodgers in a game versus the Giants a few years back. However, he's never attained any other skills than that arm. NBA: Danny Green. I understand in Popovich's system, players have to sacrifice some of their skills, but Green lost a lot of potential money fitting into the Spurs' system. I'll also throw in a vote for Harrison Barnes. He wanted no part of Game 7 vs. the Cavs two years ago, and finds himself mired in obscurity in Dallas. Seeing Barnes' name is the perfect reason for me to post this
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Post by Crimson on Apr 26, 2018 23:09:31 GMT -5
After this playoffs I can finally say Hassan Whiteside. Riley took a gamble on him that he would continue to play with that fire that he had during the 15/16 season and that has not panned out at all. I'd rather the Heat try and cut their losses this off-season and work on developing Bam instead.
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Post by sfvega on Apr 26, 2018 23:14:16 GMT -5
Lastings Milledge and Elijah Dukes, wow. I haven't heard those names in forever. Also from that era, Delmon Young and Stephen Drew were both supposed to be the next big things.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 26, 2018 23:56:05 GMT -5
Leinart, Vince Young and Reggie Bush were suppose to be the big 3 players that draft year. And while Young and Bush had some good years, they didn't exactly set the world on fire like they were hyped up to be. And of course Houston took Mario Williams over all of them and people gave them shit for it. Leinart was too much about the party life style. I remember how he threw a hissy fit privately about being drafted by the Cards (despite them having weapons) and he just continued to party after being drafted. He basically got a "wrestler's court" moment in an NFL locker room due to how he was acting dating Paris Hilton. Then he got shoulder issues. Bush had similar issues where he enjoyed the celeb lifestyle too much and didn't put all the work needed while in New Orleans, but he became a great leader for 2 years in Miami and was known as a great teammate everywhere after he got away from the Kardashians. Vince was a mixture of having a bad circle and being dumb. Bud Adams enabled Vince more than Dan Snyder ever did RG3. It was rediculous. As for some more names. Remember Chris Kuntiz was originally a throw in in a trade with the Ducks as Ray Shero wanted the Pens to get Eric Tangradi. Jeremy Hermida debuted in the majors with a grand slam in his first at bat but never became the 5 tool guy he was hyped up as. Though I do think a big part of that was the Marlins putting too much pressure on him.
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Post by S-Chrome on Apr 27, 2018 0:01:56 GMT -5
Lastings Milledge and Elijah Dukes, wow. I haven't heard those names in forever. Also from that era, Delmon Young and Stephen Drew were both supposed to be the next big things. In TB, Young, Boss Junior Melvin Upton and Elijah Dukes were big-time prospects and all fell way short of expectations.
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