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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on May 5, 2018 0:45:56 GMT -5
Sooo.... is this coming back ever? Last SmackDown, Randy Orton basically said no one cares about it. It made zero impact in storylines. And I haven’t seen it talked about, besides Orton’s diss, in weeks.
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Post by bootytea on May 5, 2018 0:51:16 GMT -5
It was really dumb that the list would only lead up to competition in WWE matches having no point.
Either you have a meaningless list with no stakes or you send the message that the talent just has to suck up to the right people to get title opportunities.
I honestly don't know how such a concept is supposed to entice viewers to watch the show.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 5, 2018 0:59:58 GMT -5
It was nothing but a means to start a Roode/Orton/Mahal feud.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 5, 2018 1:03:31 GMT -5
I still can't believe they managed to do a Top 10 list, and then proceeded to book a Six Pack Challenge for the WWE title, and the only guy in the Top 10 was the defending champion.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 1:15:16 GMT -5
It was nothing but a means to start a Roode/Orton/Mahal feud. I actually found Jinder obsessing over it and trying to use it to get Orton and Roode to fight each other entertaining for some reason. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 1:22:45 GMT -5
I really hope they just never mention it again. The idea of a defined ranking system in wrestling is stupid to begin with, especially if you're just going to use it as a, "Here are all of the top faces in the order you're supposed to cheer for them," list.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 5, 2018 1:29:44 GMT -5
It was a really stupid idea. All of the wrestlers voting, in kayfabe, so sure, I get why it would have likely been mostly faces, but then you have stuff like the Tye joke when he hadn't really been used in weeks, and a list where they shouldn't be able to set him up to be in that slot, so it's obviously rigged.
What is the point of a popularity context with no real stakes?
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Post by theironyuppie on May 5, 2018 1:38:35 GMT -5
It was pretty pointless. At least it works as a punchline now.
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Post by BigAl on May 5, 2018 3:56:48 GMT -5
And despite rusev being one of the most popular wrestlers on Smackdown and yet he didn't even make the top 10 speaks volumes on how phony the list was
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 5, 2018 3:59:01 GMT -5
I really hope they just never mention it again. The idea of a defined ranking system in wrestling is stupid to begin with, especially if you're just going to use it as a, "Here are all of the top faces in the order you're supposed to cheer for them," list. "Oh, and Tye Dillinger is here too." |
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Post by schma on May 5, 2018 4:12:40 GMT -5
Let's hope it doesn't come back. It was a bad idea and it should feel bad.
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Post by sunnytaker on May 5, 2018 8:12:23 GMT -5
only way it had any chance was if it stood for an actual pecking order as to who would get future title shots and based it off of wins/losses/strength of competition/whatever other "stats" they pretended to include in it and people would actually be fighting to move up in the rankings. say you had to be in the top 3 to have a shot at a chance to challenge for the world title/ top ten for US Title. if they still made it a combined ranking with women and tag teams then just being in the top 10 could give you a chance to claim a title shot (may start running low on people if each division had a top 5/10 list of their own)
instead we got "these are the people the other wrestlers like the best" for "reasons"
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Post by H-Virus on May 5, 2018 8:33:59 GMT -5
Hard to imagine that WWE could come up with a Top 10 that was even stupider than TNA's Ranking System back in 2010. Sure, Desmond was never supposed to win so he got squashed and they immediately started rigging the standings the very next week even though the standings never made any sense to begin with, but at least it led to a couple title matches... except for the times when they talked about needing to find a new #1 contender despite the Ranking System making it pretty clear that the #1 guy should be next for a title shot but rarely was... But at least Kurt Angle tried incorporating it into his storyline heading into Bound For Glory by challenging everyone on the list until he reached #1... which he never did because the Ranking System was dropped before they got to BFG...
Okay, so one wasn't really any better than the other. But at least TNA tried.
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Post by A damn road sign on May 5, 2018 9:21:26 GMT -5
Tye Dillinger blocked me on Twitter for saying he literally exists on the main roster to be a used as a lame “LOL 10” punchline. I never even followed him.
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Post by MrElijah on May 5, 2018 12:02:15 GMT -5
Hard to imagine that WWE could come up with a Top 10 that was even stupider than TNA's Ranking System back in 2010. Sure, Desmond was never supposed to win so he got squashed and they immediately started rigging the standings the very next week even though the standings never made any sense to begin with, but at least it led to a couple title matches... except for the times when they talked about needing to find a new #1 contender despite the Ranking System making it pretty clear that the #1 guy should be next for a title shot but rarely was... But at least Kurt Angle tried incorporating it into his storyline heading into Bound For Glory by challenging everyone on the list until he reached #1... which he never did because the Ranking System was dropped before they got to BFG... Okay, so one wasn't really any better than the other. But at least TNA tried.Ah the Desmond Wolfe Clusterf*** that also had RVD getting "injured" because they used up his dates, so they had a Tournament that invalidated the Kurt Angle vs. The Top 10 storyline. |
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Post by Prince Petty on May 5, 2018 12:25:36 GMT -5
If they were going to do it as a genuine ranking system, where wins and losses determined your place on a list of contenders, then it could have been an interesting experiment for pro-wrestling.
Unfortunately, with weekly programmes, it wouldn't take long for everyone to lose track of those wins, and with the WWE's booking, their attention span is way too short to actually credibly build wrestlers that way. How can you be in the top five contenders, for example, if you win one week then lose the next, and repeat that pattern for two months?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 5, 2018 12:34:43 GMT -5
It was pretty obvious they would lose interest in the idea quickly, but the way it went about was pretty stellar. Jinder cuts this weird awkward promo about seeing Orton's ballot card and saying he didn't vote for Bobby Roode Who's His Friend Or Something, Orton comes out and Jinder basically admits it's a fake and he's making it up. No real tensions simmer up in the Orton-Roode direction more than in a usual three-way title feud, then Rusev gets added to the match and Jinder pins Rusev after weeks of nobody mentioning the rankings. It's a really interesting experiment in what happens when you write week-to-week with zero idea what you're doing and put no effort into a proper story arc.
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Post by hbkid718 on May 5, 2018 14:50:18 GMT -5
If they were going to do it as a genuine ranking system, where wins and losses determined your place on a list of contenders, then it could have been an interesting experiment for pro-wrestling. Unfortunately, with weekly programmes, it wouldn't take long for everyone to lose track of those wins, and with the WWE's booking, their attention span is way too short to actually credibly build wrestlers that way. How can you be in the top five contenders, for example, if you win one week then lose the next, and repeat that pattern for two months? Not when you have guys like EoE: Well There's Your Problem & me, who keep track of everyone's Wins & Losses. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 16:58:48 GMT -5
Hard to imagine that WWE could come up with a Top 10 that was even stupider than TNA's Ranking System back in 2010. Sure, Desmond was never supposed to win so he got squashed and they immediately started rigging the standings the very next week even though the standings never made any sense to begin with, but at least it led to a couple title matches... except for the times when they talked about needing to find a new #1 contender despite the Ranking System making it pretty clear that the #1 guy should be next for a title shot but rarely was... But at least Kurt Angle tried incorporating it into his storyline heading into Bound For Glory by challenging everyone on the list until he reached #1... which he never did because the Ranking System was dropped before they got to BFG... Okay, so one wasn't really any better than the other. But at least TNA tried.Ah the Desmond Wolfe Clusterf*** that also had RVD getting "injured" because they used up his dates, so they had a Tournament that invalidated the Kurt Angle vs. The Top 10 storyline. Not to mention that the entire thing of the title being rendered vacant was completely f***ing pointless because 1), RVD had his next match the same show they crowned a new champion, and 2), both that match and the one before he went out were matches with Abyss, so he could have just lost it to Abyss to avoid the entire stupid issue and done more to make Abyss look like an actual threat to him when he came back. |
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Post by MrElijah on May 5, 2018 17:09:49 GMT -5
Ah the Desmond Wolfe Clusterf*** that also had RVD getting "injured" because they used up his dates, so they had a Tournament that invalidated the Kurt Angle vs. The Top 10 storyline. Not to mention that the entire thing of the title being rendered vacant was completely f***ing pointless because 1), RVD had his next match the same show they crowned a new champion, and 2), both that match and the one before he went out were matches with Abyss, so he could have just lost it to Abyss to avoid the entire stupid issue and done more to make Abyss look like an actual threat to him when he came back. Remember, Van Dam wouldn't job to anyone not from the attitude era! Man, what bullshit RVD's run was. |
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