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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 18, 2018 16:17:14 GMT -5
Why are you trying to paint extra medical coverage as a bad thing? Why do so many people believe that Daniel Bryan is going to fall dead, the moment he takes a bad bump? Goalposts. Moving.
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Post by Cyno on May 18, 2018 16:18:03 GMT -5
And yes, I hope WWE starts being as cautious about other wrestlers with a history of concussions as they are with Bryan. More medical coverage is only a good thing.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 18, 2018 16:22:40 GMT -5
Because of the severity of his initial condition. WWE doesn't want any fault on their hands just in case. Ok, and if his condition is that severe. Is he still doing big bumps like the diving headbutt? Has his schedule been lightened? He hasn't used the diving headbutt since coming back. He also ditched the suicide dives.
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Post by Evil Homer on May 18, 2018 16:43:11 GMT -5
I hope he stays healthy between now and when he choses to hang up the boots for good . If this means he works a safer style, doesent work hell in a cell , cage, ladder , tlc match or chambers - great, I will never complain
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on May 18, 2018 16:51:33 GMT -5
For the record, I'm perfectly fine with Bryan being checked however many times.
I just get annoyed with the grandstanding.
I think kn said it earlier, this place is changing and it sucks. Personally, I blame the recent upsurge of "hot takes" from people trying to show how cool and against the grain they are.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 18, 2018 16:58:10 GMT -5
For the record, I'm perfectly fine with Bryan being checked however many times. I just get annoyed with the grandstanding. I think kn said it earlier, this place is changing and it sucks. Personally, I blame the recent upsurge of "hot takes" from people trying to show how cool and against the grain they are. WWE section over the last good while has become a place where you just roll your eyes but recently it has been on the "are you f***ing serious" scale of craziness
I had hoped this is one of those things we can all agree on as far Bryan getting more health care from WWE and hopefully it spreads.
I had been one of those people who was weary about him getting back in the ring but he's been cleared, changed his style, and taking extra precautions (no ladder matches, check ups). He looks happy and so far there is a happy medium between him and the company
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Post by Perd on May 18, 2018 17:23:34 GMT -5
This board is collapsing under the weight of hot takes and strange fonts. It’s like if Kevin Dunn was hired by FS1.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 17:25:24 GMT -5
Another thing about Bryan's schedule that he joked about. Initially when he was cleared they were talking about him about how his schedule was going to be. Before he knew it he's on the full European tour and he's on a full-time schedule again which was funny to him. Yeah, Bryan might not wrestle every week now but he's going to be doing something each week weather it's being in segments for a few weeks and then having a match a week later, just all sorts of things but to him it's funny.
He and Jericho also talked about that Apron Powerbomb from Owens which Jericho said is the most painful move he's ever taken in his life. Bryan said it would be a different story if he, Bryan, had neck and back injuries when he took it but he doesn't. They both do say that bump hurts in general though as in everyone who takes it takes a BUMP. I noticed people freak out when Bryan took that move but in Bryan's case it's no different for him compared to others with it.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on May 18, 2018 17:29:48 GMT -5
Ok, let me take a different angle. Why does Daniel Bryan need special concussion protocols, when he's been cleared for full-time wrestling? I'm not asking, nor stating, that it's bad that he gets extra attention, and I am well aware that it was his idea. I'm asking why it's necessary for him, and only him? Because of the severity of his initial condition. WWE doesn't want any fault on their hands just in case. And let's not forget that Bryan himself has admitted to lying to WWE about his concussion history during the initial wellness testing, lying about getting concussions in WWE, fought with WWE doctors and executives for stopping a match where he landed on head and neck giving himself a stinger, and hid the fact he had seizures because of head trauma from WWE among other things. Others have been far more honest and/or have less history of head trauma. I hate to say it this way but if you're WWE and why would just take his word at it? Yes he has been cleared to return but they still have to trust he is being honest about his health after being cleared.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 18, 2018 17:32:01 GMT -5
Because of the severity of his initial condition. WWE doesn't want any fault on their hands just in case. And let's not forget that Bryan himself has admitted to lying to WWE about his concussion history during the initial wellness testing, lying about getting concussions in WWE, fought with WWE doctors and executives for stopping a match where he landed on head and neck giving himself a stinger, and hid the fact he had seizures because of head trauma from WWE among other things. Others have been far more honest and/or have less history of head trauma. I hate to say it this way but if you're WWE and why would just take his word at it? Yes he has been cleared to return but they still have to trust he is being honest about his health after being cleared. Helluva point. Yeah if I'm WWE and DB is lying to me, I want him on a better checkup system than just "good faith".
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on May 18, 2018 17:32:11 GMT -5
Let's treat Bryan's run like it can end at any time, and let's just get these dream matches out of the way ASAP. The AJ match immediately following Wrestlemania was a great start. Next, Bryan/AJ/Nakamura for the title, then Bryan/Nakamura.
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Post by Cyno on May 18, 2018 17:37:24 GMT -5
And let's not forget that Bryan himself has admitted to lying to WWE about his concussion history during the initial wellness testing, lying about getting concussions in WWE, fought with WWE doctors and executives for stopping a match where he landed on head and neck giving himself a stinger, and hid the fact he had seizures because of head trauma from WWE among other things. Others have been far more honest and/or have less history of head trauma. I hate to say it this way but if you're WWE and why would just take his word at it? Yes he has been cleared to return but they still have to trust he is being honest about his health after being cleared. Helluva point. Yeah if I'm WWE and DB is lying to me, I want him on a better checkup system than just "good faith". Even without lying and being in full health, if I was WWE I'd want to keep tabs on anyone with a history of injuries, especially head injuries. From both a business and ethical standpoint.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 18, 2018 17:49:01 GMT -5
Helluva point. Yeah if I'm WWE and DB is lying to me, I want him on a better checkup system than just "good faith". Even without lying and being in full health, if I was WWE I'd want to keep tabs on anyone with a history of injuries, especially head injuries. From both a business and ethical standpoint. Ziggler and Randy comes to mind as they’ve had a few concussions in their career
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Post by Dub H on May 18, 2018 18:14:32 GMT -5
I blame the recent upsurge of "hot takes" from people trying to show how cool and against the grain they are. Well none of this happened in thi thread. Except by you , trying to be cool and take a swing at those people as soon as you could,byt that I mean as soon the thread opened.And i guess me feeding your fire.But really,no one but you did anything of the sort.Anything else I will take to PMs to not derail the threads.Just dont try to start fires.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 18, 2018 18:20:55 GMT -5
I'm really confused why Bryan getting to wrestle again and getting the best health care in wrestling by getting tested after every match is making people angry somehow. The 'Bryan is a risk in the ring' crowd and the 'other doctors cleared him, let him wrestle' crowd and even the 'I think only pussies get concussions he should rassle' crowd get satisfied. How is anyone unhappy with this?
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Post by Ryushinku on May 19, 2018 4:09:19 GMT -5
Good to hear. I'm glad they were able to meet in the middle with this, with Bryan agreed to not wing it and Vince allowing a chance for a medical re-visit.
Bryan is happy with this, so I'm happy for him.
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Post by schma on May 19, 2018 4:42:05 GMT -5
I've seen questions about why he should have to jump through these hoops and Ric hit the nail on the head. Bryan has lied in the past about concussions and the severity of his condition. He flat out admits that and this procedure he proposed of increased checkups was his way of accepting that WWE can't afford to take him at his word when it comes to injuries anymore. A lot of the other guys with histories of concussions don't have a history of lying about it.
Nothing bad comes of this and potentially something good comes from it in that issues may be caught earlier if they arise. This is awesome and a win for everyone. It may even lead to a better medical environment for everyone else.
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