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Post by 111111 on May 22, 2018 15:56:42 GMT -5
He should make his own, competing Captain Planet. Why stop there? he could launch his own cable news network called VNN too. |
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Post by Cyno on May 22, 2018 15:59:58 GMT -5
So we have Brock Lesnar to thank for the end of Jinder's WWE championship run?
I suddenly appreciate that "calling him a part timer is generous" champion a bit more.
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Post by bootytea on May 22, 2018 16:31:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I am real happy for the guys success as I really don't want WWE to fail as much as others do.
Sure, I don't always get my way, but WWE does entertain me, especially on Smackdown.
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Post by Chainsaw on May 22, 2018 16:32:06 GMT -5
He's a billionaire who should be a millionaire  Now that's some fine truthing there, Lou! |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 22, 2018 18:21:56 GMT -5
Is Ted turner even doing anything business wise? I know he's into his philanthropy and not trying to start a football league that has no chance in hell of suceeding
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 22, 2018 18:33:43 GMT -5
We reached Ted for comment:  "Ass-leticism"Uh, thanks, Ted |
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 22, 2018 18:36:25 GMT -5
The other lesson: Wrestling's quality doesn't matter as much as wrestling fans think it does. Let the record show: Daniel Bryan was on top when Vince McMahon lost $350 million in a single day. Roman Reigns vs. Jinder Mahal was the top feud on the week that Vince McMahon overtook Ted Turner. Let the record also show: Daniel Bryan closed a Wrestlemania as WWE Champion to something other than a chorus of boos, because wrestling fans are marks for personalities and talent, not corporate cash grabs. Jinder Mahal had to a have emergency title removal surgery because he sucks and Brock Lesnar refused to work with him. Kinda has nothing to do with the business side people are talking about but okay. Whoa did Vince really lose 350 million after Mania 30? |
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Post by Starshine on May 22, 2018 19:15:35 GMT -5
So after 4 years of the worst main event push in history, 3 consecutive WM Main Events that stunk out the joint, and some of the worst creative in the history of wrestling, this happens. The lesson? Being the only game in town pays. The other lesson: Wrestling's quality doesn't matter as much as wrestling fans think it does. Let the record show: Daniel Bryan was on top when Vince McMahon lost $350 million in a single day. Roman Reigns vs. Jinder Mahal was the top feud on the week that Vince McMahon overtook Ted Turner. Though a chunk of the week to week creative aspects of the business have very little to do with market speculations and share price fluctuations. Most of it comes from business deals (I.e. Saudi, tv rights deals), and as stated before speculation on returns. We all know they've made some significantly lucrative deals which makes the company appear as a solid investment. The 2014 loss was about TV deals under-delivering compared to initial speculation, as well as disappointing initial WWE Network subscription numbers. It's your average market bullshit. |
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Post by freeze Austin on May 22, 2018 19:34:29 GMT -5
Let the record also show: Daniel Bryan closed a Wrestlemania as WWE Champion to something other than a chorus of boos, because wrestling fans are marks for personalities and talent, not corporate cash grabs. Jinder Mahal had to a have emergency title removal surgery because he sucks and Brock Lesnar refused to work with him. Kinda has nothing to do with the business side people are talking about but okay. Whoa did Vince really lose 350 million after Mania 30? Business side? Hell son, given the specific post that you could see I was replying to I thought we was having us a good old fashioned false equivalency contest. But hey you already knew that but still decided I was the one who needed called out anyway, so good on ya. LOL. |
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on May 22, 2018 21:49:14 GMT -5
Somewhere out there, CM Punk reads this piece of news and starts crying. I imagine he's probably happy for Vince honestly as he harbors no hatred towards him. Word is the lawsuit has been delayed because there’s talk of a settlement. I have this weird feeling that all this new money coming in has them looking to fix anything that might screw it up, and priority one might be cutting Punk a big check to make the whole thing go away. Hell, I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if they cut ties with the doctor afterwards as step two. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 22, 2018 21:53:15 GMT -5
I imagine he's probably happy for Vince honestly as he harbors no hatred towards him. Word is the lawsuit has been delayed because there’s talk of a settlement. I have this weird feeling that all this new money coming in has them looking to fix anything that might screw it up, and priority one might be cutting Punk a big check to make the whole thing go away. Hell, I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if they cut ties with the doctor afterwards as step two. Punk is coming back at some point to be that despised celebrity guy he hated. It's a matter of when but i'll give it within 2 years |
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Post by Tenshigure on May 22, 2018 22:02:56 GMT -5
Word is the lawsuit has been delayed because there’s talk of a settlement. I have this weird feeling that all this new money coming in has them looking to fix anything that might screw it up, and priority one might be cutting Punk a big check to make the whole thing go away. Hell, I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if they cut ties with the doctor afterwards as step two. Punk is coming back at some point to be that despised celebrity guy he hated. It's a matter of when but i'll give it within 2 years Call me crazy, but I could see it coincide with a few Bullet Club members making the transition to the 'E... |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 22, 2018 22:10:10 GMT -5
Punk is coming back at some point to be that despised celebrity guy he hated. It's a matter of when but i'll give it within 2 years Call me crazy, but I could see it coincide with a few Bullet Club members making the transition to the 'E... If you believe the fact Cody and The Bucks were going to be on Starrcade last year than it's possible but I think they do everything separate from them
I believe there was a thread before asking why don't U.S guys get contracts like some of the UK guys and I can see it changing with the way WWE has been doing business |
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Post by Reflecto on May 22, 2018 22:36:42 GMT -5
The other lesson: Wrestling's quality doesn't matter as much as wrestling fans think it does. Let the record show: Daniel Bryan was on top when Vince McMahon lost $350 million in a single day. Roman Reigns vs. Jinder Mahal was the top feud on the week that Vince McMahon overtook Ted Turner. Though a chunk of the week to week creative aspects of the business have very little to do with market speculations and share price fluctuations. Most of it comes from business deals (I.e. Saudi, tv rights deals), and as stated before speculation on returns. We all know they've made some significantly lucrative deals which makes the company appear as a solid investment. The 2014 loss was about TV deals under-delivering compared to initial speculation, as well as disappointing initial WWE Network subscription numbers. It's your average market bullshit. Of course- and in defense the 350 million number didn't just have to do with the 2014 TV deal under-delivering, but Wall Street not being as intelligent as any smark fan (a big reason for the sale was also: WWE met with AMC Networks, and somehow the game of telephone turned "WWE is meeting with AMC to move their programming to their network" into "AMC Networks is totally about to buy the WWE, you guys! Buy WWE stock RIGHT NOW and you'll get cheap AMC Networks stock!") No smark bought that for one second, but somehow it fooled Wall Street, and the WWE stock price skyrocketed because of it. |
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Post by schma on May 23, 2018 0:10:52 GMT -5
The other lesson: Wrestling's quality doesn't matter as much as wrestling fans think it does. Let the record show: Daniel Bryan was on top when Vince McMahon lost $350 million in a single day. Roman Reigns vs. Jinder Mahal was the top feud on the week that Vince McMahon overtook Ted Turner. Let the record also show: Daniel Bryan closed a Wrestlemania as WWE Champion to something other than a chorus of boos, because wrestling fans are marks for personalities and talent, not corporate cash grabs. Jinder Mahal had to a have emergency title removal surgery because he sucks and Brock Lesnar refused to work with him. I have a hard time believing Brock would refuse to work with anyone as long as his cheques are being cashed. It's not like it would change how his match goes. |
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Post by benstudd on May 23, 2018 0:40:51 GMT -5
So after 4 years of the worst main event push in history, 3 consecutive WM Main Events that stunk out the joint, and some of the worst creative in the history of wrestling, this happens. The lesson? Being the only game in town pays. And really like in most other businesses, the weakest, less quality content always wins. Beta was actually better than VHS, etc... |
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Post by schma on May 23, 2018 0:52:24 GMT -5
So after 4 years of the worst main event push in history, 3 consecutive WM Main Events that stunk out the joint, and some of the worst creative in the history of wrestling, this happens. The lesson? Being the only game in town pays. And really like in most other businesses, the weakest, less quality content always wins. Beta was actually better than VHS, etc... With Beta the loss is more seen as a lesson in marketing. I don't remember all the details but Sony kinda shot themselves in the foot allowing JVC to take over with VHS. |
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Post by benstudd on May 23, 2018 0:53:32 GMT -5
And really like in most other businesses, the weakest, less quality content always wins. Beta was actually better than VHS, etc... With Beta the loss is more seen as a lesson in marketing. I don't remember all the details but Sony kinda shot themselves in the foot allowing JVC to take over with VHS. In most cases it's also that too. Marketing > Quality. |
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Post by Ryushinku on May 23, 2018 2:31:47 GMT -5
They might just have enough money to afford another contract for Del Rio now!
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 23, 2018 2:49:50 GMT -5
I imagine he's probably happy for Vince honestly as he harbors no hatred towards him. Word is the lawsuit has been delayed because there’s talk of a settlement. I have this weird feeling that all this new money coming in has them looking to fix anything that might screw it up, and priority one might be cutting Punk a big check to make the whole thing go away. Hell, I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if they cut ties with the doctor afterwards as step two. WWE: "Alright, Punk, we'll buy you 100 cases of Pepsi a year for life, and buy you a case of Topps Walking Dead cards when new sets come out." Punk: "Deal." |
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