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Post by Some Guy on Jun 18, 2018 1:47:08 GMT -5
Ok all the quality women are in Smackdown. Ember just debuted. Bayley and Banks are dead, they need to go away, they're the opposite of over, they aren't welcomed anymore. Ruby Riott could be an option but her useless teammates are holding her down. It's either Alexa or Nia Guess I mishear their consistently decent reactions despite being destroyed 700 times over.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jun 18, 2018 2:16:33 GMT -5
Meh, I dunno.
Anyone is better than Nia.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 18, 2018 2:34:10 GMT -5
She's one of the most over people on the roster. I think she needs a break from the title too... but really that's the reason right there. So is Daniel Bryan, and he got stuck in a nothing feud with Big Cass. Being over doesn't mean a darn thing to WWE.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 18, 2018 2:53:52 GMT -5
Ok all the quality women are in Smackdown. Ember just debuted. Bayley and Banks are dead, they need to go away, they're the opposite of over, they aren't welcomed anymore. Ruby Riott could be an option but her useless teammates are holding her down. It's either Alexa or Nia Guess I mishear their consistently decent reactions despite being destroyed 700 times over. Ziggler still gets reactions, doesn't mean he's drawing shit. They unfortunately lost so many times they're irrelevant now, their creative was also rotten. I used to be a fan of Bayley and Sasha so it pains me what they've become
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jun 18, 2018 3:31:14 GMT -5
The real mistake was booking Nia against Ronda so fast. We all know Ronda is the real new golden child. So for the match sack they couldn't have Ronda win the belt yet since reports all said she wasn't ready yet even though she looked fine to me. Nia was in a situation where she turned heel because "reasons" but shouldn't have. Alexa cashing in would made more sense so she gets he revenge on the "injury" she suffered.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Jun 18, 2018 3:31:32 GMT -5
Because Alexa is great for future business. WWE aren’t as stupid as we all think. Alexa plays her character so well that we can’t wait for her to lose. Who should she lose to? Oh, we have this crowd favourite, complete badass on the roster that will lift the roof when she beats Alexa. Wrestling is all about ‘feel-good moments’. They may not feel great now, but if you just hold on a bit, this will all pay off in the end. Just wait. It’ll all be ok. I don't give one crap about seeing Ronda beat Alexa. What would be the kayfabe achievement for Ronda in that? "oh hey I won I guess I managed to stop you from cheating long enough to easily defeat you since you suck as a competitor". There's no glory in beating Alexa.
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Post by stevec484 on Jun 18, 2018 3:44:56 GMT -5
Because Alexa is great for future business. WWE aren’t as stupid as we all think. Alexa plays her character so well that we can’t wait for her to lose. Who should she lose to? Oh, we have this crowd favourite, complete badass on the roster that will lift the roof when she beats Alexa. Wrestling is all about ‘feel-good moments’. They may not feel great now, but if you just hold on a bit, this will all pay off in the end. Just wait. It’ll all be ok. I don't give one crap about seeing Ronda beat Alexa. What would be the kayfabe achievement for Ronda in that? "oh hey I won I guess I managed to stop you from cheating long enough to easily defeat you since you suck as a competitor". There's no glory in beating Alexa. Because it is a simple storyline of the heel getting her killed after screwing over the face
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Jun 18, 2018 4:02:54 GMT -5
I don't give one crap about seeing Ronda beat Alexa. What would be the kayfabe achievement for Ronda in that? "oh hey I won I guess I managed to stop you from cheating long enough to easily defeat you since you suck as a competitor". There's no glory in beating Alexa. Because it is a simple storyline of the heel getting her killed after screwing over the face Sounds small-time, mid-card, and clichéd. For someone like Ronda who is portrayed as highest-tier in power level and only comes around every couple of months to wrestle I want to see her in loftier stories such as the one she was doing with Nia. Who can beat who is the definitive pro wrestling story. If Ronda wins the title off of Alexa that will be a far lesser title win than if she won it in a hard fought battle against a woman who actually had earned it.
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Post by schma on Jun 18, 2018 4:12:38 GMT -5
Because it is a simple storyline of the heel getting her killed after screwing over the face Sounds small-time, mid-card, and clichéd. For someone like Ronda who is portrayed as highest-tier in power level and only comes around every couple of months to wrestle I want to see her in loftier stories such as the one she was doing with Nia. Who can beat who is the definitive pro wrestling story. If Ronda wins the title off of Alexa that will be a far lesser title win than if she won it in a hard fought battle against a woman who actually had earned it. At the same time Alexa has gone over nearly every major female talent in WWE right now. Her victims include the entire Raw women's roster and most of the Smackdown women's roster. She doesn't look the part but she's pretty much been a monster heel for some time now. Certainly the image of Nia vs Ronda is more impressive but on paper Charlotte is probably about the only one approaching Alexa for pure dominance. (And I guess Asuka)
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Jun 18, 2018 4:25:20 GMT -5
At the same time Alexa has gone over nearly every major female talent in WWE right now. Her victims include the entire Raw women's roster and most of the Smackdown women's roster. She doesn't look the part but she's pretty much been a monster heel for some time now. Certainly the image of Nia vs Ronda is more impressive but on paper Charlotte is probably about the only one approaching Alexa for pure dominance. (And I guess Asuka) Alexa has lost clean to Nia, Asuka, Charlotte, and Ember in recent times, and had no great singles victories. She had a streak last year where she was winning clean over Mickie, Sasha and a couple of others, but at the same time people complained about it the whole way for stupid booking and for straining credibility due to her size vs her opponents and her opponents having to sell as if she were dominating them.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jun 18, 2018 4:48:56 GMT -5
At the same time Alexa has gone over nearly every major female talent in WWE right now. Her victims include the entire Raw women's roster and most of the Smackdown women's roster. She doesn't look the part but she's pretty much been a monster heel for some time now. Certainly the image of Nia vs Ronda is more impressive but on paper Charlotte is probably about the only one approaching Alexa for pure dominance. (And I guess Asuka) Alexa has lost clean to Nia, Asuka, Charlotte, and Ember in recent times, and had no great singles victories. She had a streak last year where she was winning clean over Mickie, Sasha and a couple of others, but at the same time people complained about it the whole way for stupid booking and for straining credibility due to her size vs her opponents and her opponents having to sell as if she were dominating them. Remember when Naomi beat her every single time they interacted for a few months? Matches, segments, sneak attacks, it didn't matter, Naomi won. Then Naomi got hurt, Alexa got the title back... and then lost it right back to Naomi when she got better. I can't recall Alexa ever looking even remotely competent against her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 4:54:28 GMT -5
Because she can do that arm dislocation trick and it's going to make for an amazing visual when Ronda wins the belt at Summerslam or whatever.
Surprised I'm the first to mention it, frankly
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Post by Jiren on Jun 18, 2018 4:56:24 GMT -5
On Smackdown her booking was fine
- Beat Becky by either luck (Table match) or underhanded cheating ("Broken arm", Lucha Mickie James) - Naomi always had her number.
It's when she got to RAW the booking went haywire
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 18, 2018 4:57:38 GMT -5
My theory is that it's because she has that broken arm party trick.
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Post by BigAl on Jun 18, 2018 5:04:03 GMT -5
On Smackdown her booking was fine - Beat Becky by either luck (Table match) or underhanded cheating ("Broken arm", Lucha Mickie James) - Naomi always had her number. It's when she got to RAW the booking went haywire Probably Vince And dunn
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Post by Jiren on Jun 18, 2018 5:08:43 GMT -5
On Smackdown her booking was fine - Beat Becky by either luck (Table match) or underhanded cheating ("Broken arm", Lucha Mickie James) - Naomi always had her number. It's when she got to RAW the booking went haywire Probably Vince And dunn True
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Post by abjordans on Jun 18, 2018 6:06:09 GMT -5
I think they want Ronda to chase a heel all summer and take the belt at Summerslam, and Bliss fits that role.
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Post by Yacht Persona on Jun 18, 2018 6:07:51 GMT -5
All that went through my head during the intros was "you know what would be the worst case scenario? Bliss winning." Yet at the same time, it's also entirely predictable considering who's running the show. Maybe in this run she'll learn how to bump correctly.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Jun 18, 2018 6:21:00 GMT -5
I remember when she took the title back from Sasha last year, and the rationale given was "We need an established heel to put Asuka over". Never happened. Now we're back to it with "We need an established heel to put Ronda over".
Sorry, I'm tuning out on the Raw women's side. Bliss inspires that much apathy in me that I don't even care to watch her lose the title. Just tell me when it's over.
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Post by Doctor No on Jun 18, 2018 6:30:48 GMT -5
The real mistake was booking Nia against Ronda so fast. We all know Ronda is the real new golden child. So for the match sack they couldn't have Ronda win the belt yet since reports all said she wasn't ready yet even though she looked fine to me. Nia was in a situation where she turned heel because "reasons" but shouldn't have. Alexa cashing in would made more sense so she gets he revenge on the "injury" she suffered. This whole thing leaves the Nia character with NOTHING. She loses to Rousey at least they can say "At least she stepped up to Ronda." They gave up her monster character to make her Bliss program work then sabotaged that character with the Ronda story. Now she just looks like a loser and stupid in the end.
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