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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 22:49:07 GMT -5
UGH I’m absolutely devastated Jesus was killed off 😭 LOVED the character, one of my favourites. Why could it not be Eugene Goddamn it. Looks like he’s officially dead too, that sword went through him... he’s not coming back from that is he? Then again “Jesus rising from the dead” and maybe saving Daryl, Eugene and Aaron would be a total cliche move, plus hasn’t he played dead before?so fingers crossed. I just couldn’t understand the reaction from the others though. I mean Aaron’s was real but why were Daryl and Eugene not more upset? I get that they’re occupied by the rest of the Whisperers but I feel like his death has somewhat been brushed off. {Spoiler}Hopefully they stick to the comics and have Negan work with the group to take down The Whisperers. I want to see that redemption arc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 22:57:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't say it's on its last legs but it isn't nowhere near as high as it used to be
Daryl has a dedicated following and they just won't kill him. They had a few chances to do so but never pulled the trigger. Starting from like Season 3 my belief was he was going to replace Glenn in getting killed by Negan which would have been just as shocking but they didn't pull that trigger Hell, they could have had Daryl get taken out brutally like they just did Jesus but he's around for the long haul. What his character arc will be, who knows? They're not killing him off unless Reedus says he's done
They had the same character in Dwight. Get rid of Daryl and you essentially lose nothing. I wouldn’t say Dwight is the same character. Daryl has more of an emotional background and conscience about him. Dwight is more cold... I mean he stuck an arrow through Denise’s eye and basically laughed about it. Daryl wouldn’t do that. Infact I’d say they’re quite the opposite.
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Post by cabbageboy on Nov 26, 2018 23:23:20 GMT -5
The killing of Jesus makes no sense either given that they literally just started his whole character arc of growing into the role of Hilltop leader. It's like they throw all that at you and then just kill him off. It's more jarring than Abraham, who they killed off as the whole triangle with Sasha and Rosita was starting, but at least there I doubt anyone was tuning in for that.
I do agree that Negan needed to get out of the jail cell and become involved again. There is something to him now having to work with everyone he screwed over to defeat these Whisperer nuts.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 27, 2018 0:18:18 GMT -5
They had the same character in Dwight. Get rid of Daryl and you essentially lose nothing. I wouldn’t say Dwight is the same character. Daryl has more of an emotional background and conscience about him. Dwight is more cold... I mean he stuck an arrow through Denise’s eye and basically laughed about it. Daryl wouldn’t do that. Infact I’d say they’re quite the opposite. For me, Dwight is what Daryl would be if he stuck with Merle and hooked up with the Governor.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 27, 2018 0:21:32 GMT -5
Bringing in Magna's crew was a good choice. Some new blood. Magna and the deaf siblings are interesting.
Music man seems a good guy. Yumiko... Needs to show something beyond being good with a bow.
But they're good additions. Hope they don't get sidelined like in the comics.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 1:10:17 GMT -5
The killing of Jesus makes no sense either given that they literally just started his whole character arc of growing into the role of Hilltop leader. It's like they throw all that at you and then just kill him off. It's more jarring than Abraham, who they killed off as the whole triangle with Sasha and Rosita was starting, but at least there I doubt anyone was tuning in for that. I do agree that Negan needed to get out of the jail cell and become involved again. There is something to him now having to work with everyone he screwed over to defeat these Whisperer nuts. They’re basically killing random people off as if to say “See? Anyone can die!” Carl was the first one. Thankfully they didn’t actually KILL Rick but tonight’s Jesus death STUNK of this. I know The Whisperers kill {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Ezekiel, Rosita and Aaron In the comics so SOMEBODY had to die. But why not Eugene? Why not Tara? Why not Enid or even Gabriel? These characters have outstayed their welcome. They have nothing interesting about them... Jesus was a badass character, he could have been in the show for YEARS. That’s what pisses me off. Andrea, Carl, Rick, Maggie and Jesus should all still be in the show. I know Glenn dies in the comics but they should have kept him in the TV show considering they’re not even following the comics anyway. At the time I thought he *HAD* to die but considering how they’ve gone about killing Carl and Jesus, they’re not even following the books so now I think it was a massive mistake. I was initially FOR the time jump because Jesus has such a big part to play in the comics. Now it’s just ugh.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 27, 2018 4:41:44 GMT -5
The killing of Jesus makes no sense either given that they literally just started his whole character arc of growing into the role of Hilltop leader. It's like they throw all that at you and then just kill him off. It's more jarring than Abraham, who they killed off as the whole triangle with Sasha and Rosita was starting, but at least there I doubt anyone was tuning in for that. I do agree that Negan needed to get out of the jail cell and become involved again. There is something to him now having to work with everyone he screwed over to defeat these Whisperer nuts. They’re basically killing random people off as if to say “See? Anyone can die!” Carl was the first one. Thankfully they didn’t actually KILL Rick but tonight’s Jesus death STUNK of this. I know The Whisperers kill {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Ezekiel, Rosita and Aaron In the comics so SOMEBODY had to die. But why not Eugene? Why not Tara? Why not Enid or even Gabriel? These characters have outstayed their welcome. They have nothing interesting about them... Jesus was a badass character, he could have been in the show for YEARS. That’s what pisses me off. Andrea, Carl, Rick, Maggie and Jesus should all still be in the show. I know Glenn dies in the comics but they should have kept him in the TV show considering they’re not even following the comics anyway. At the time I thought he *HAD* to die but considering how they’ve gone about killing Carl and Jesus, they’re not even following the books so now I think it was a massive mistake. I was initially FOR the time jump because Jesus has such a big part to play in the comics. Now it’s just ugh. To play Devil's Advocate
Gabriel, Tara, Eugene does not have the same impact Jesus death does. The only death that could have equaled that was Daryl or maybe Carol since she has a bad ass streak
IMO the Andrea death while big was a "nice surprise" and they did a good job delegating her character over a few diff people but in saying that it was the first instance of a wasteful shock death. I'll defend Glenn getting killed by Negan because that's an iconic moment and unless they were killing someone like Rick, Daryl, Carl, or even had flipped it and had Maggie be the one killed, that death belonged to Glenn and by extension Abe too since his character arc was up
Killing Carl off was wasteful as I been saying since they did it. That was too purely shock the audience and even caught Chandler by surprise because he knew the whispers arc was coming and was going to be big for Carl and he had just purchased a house in ATL. Killing Jesus makes no sense but it seems his actor didn't like the direction and this could be a case of him asking to be written off.
In closing, it automatically makes the Whispers a much more serious threat than they were in the comics {Spoiler} I assume we also still have the pike scene coming up and you have plenty of characters like Tara, Rosita to kill off too. Hopefully, they don't get rid of Zeke as Kirkman has admitted he regrets that. {Spoiler}
They are still indeed following the comics base storyline but it's not a 1 for 1 interpretation.
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Post by clifford on Nov 27, 2018 5:15:18 GMT -5
Apart from Episode 7, Season 9 has been pretty solid so far. Different strokes and all that cause episode 7 was the only one out of the 8 that I actually enjoyed. The rest were average to awful. Michonne is the best thing about this show at the moment and episode 7 was her best stuff. Jesus being killed off is a bit of a head scratcher, but it seems like these days you're only killed off on/leave this show if you want to leave it (Sasha, Carl, Rick, Maggie) so I guess that's what happened here too. Overall this half season was a real jumbled mess, thanks to Andrew Lincoln wanting off. The 2 substantial time jumps in such a short space of time were really jarring, they should have just had the Rick storyline happen right after season 8 and then done 1 big time jump. The time jump did freshen up some characters somewhat (Again Michonne is just awesome as the grizzled hardened veteran, Negan seems much more interesting now as well, and Darryl as the self-outcasted hermit makes him the most bearable he's been in years) and the new characters seem like good additions, and the Whisperers make for an interesting storyline for the back half of the season. But I can already tell my most hated part of the back half of season 9 will be Henry. Ugh, Henry.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 27, 2018 7:21:26 GMT -5
Apart from Episode 7, Season 9 has been pretty solid so far. Different strokes and all that cause episode 7 was the only one out of the 8 that I actually enjoyed. The rest were average to awful. Michonne is the best thing about this show at the moment and episode 7 was her best stuff. Jesus being killed off is a bit of a head scratcher, but it seems like these days you're only killed off on/leave this show if you want to leave it (Sasha, Carl, Rick, Maggie) so I guess that's what happened here too. Overall this half season was a real jumbled mess, thanks to Andrew Lincoln wanting off. The 2 substantial time jumps in such a short space of time were really jarring, they should have just had the Rick storyline happen right after season 8 and then done 1 big time jump. The time jump did freshen up some characters somewhat (Again Michonne is just awesome as the grizzled hardened veteran, Negan seems much more interesting now as well, and Darryl as the self-outcasted hermit makes him the most bearable he's been in years) and the new characters seem like good additions, and the Whisperers make for an interesting storyline for the back half of the season. But I can already tell my most hated part of the back half of season 9 will be Henry. Ugh, Henry. Henry's creeping into my least of least favourite ever TV characters. His scenes are a chore to get through. I hated him when he was a stupid kid. I hate him as a stupid teenager. The best part of this episode was him hoping to try his luck with Enid only to realise she's got a boyfriend.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 27, 2018 7:44:49 GMT -5
The killing of Jesus makes no sense either given that they literally just started his whole character arc of growing into the role of Hilltop leader. It's like they throw all that at you and then just kill him off. It's more jarring than Abraham, who they killed off as the whole triangle with Sasha and Rosita was starting, but at least there I doubt anyone was tuning in for that. It's their M.O and has been for a while. The second you see some real development, you should generally be terrified for that character
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Post by cabbageboy on Nov 27, 2018 8:44:21 GMT -5
At least Jesus got a rare decent, impact filled death scene. He at least died a somewhat heroic death. That's one problem I have with Walking Dead overall. Hardly anyone ever has a decent death. It's all just random zombie bites, or someone being stupid, or just whatever. It makes for some very nihilistic viewing.
I'm actually glad to hear about this Whisperers thing. This cast is far too big and unwieldy right now and they need some crazy heels to show up and kill a bunch of this bloated cast.
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Post by clifford on Nov 27, 2018 9:34:16 GMT -5
The killing of Jesus makes no sense either given that they literally just started his whole character arc of growing into the role of Hilltop leader. It's like they throw all that at you and then just kill him off. It's more jarring than Abraham, who they killed off as the whole triangle with Sasha and Rosita was starting, but at least there I doubt anyone was tuning in for that. It's their M.O and has been for a while. The second you see some real development, you should generally be terrified for that character The most hilarious was either Merle, who got more character development in the 20 minutes before he was killed off than in his previous 3 seasons combined, or T- Dawg (oh HELL naw), who got more LINES in the 20 minutes before he was killed off than in his 3 previous seasons combined.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 27, 2018 9:45:16 GMT -5
It's their M.O and has been for a while. The second you see some real development, you should generally be terrified for that character The most hilarious was either Merle, who got more character development in the 20 minutes before he was killed off than in his previous 3 seasons combined, or T- Dawg (oh HELL naw), who got more LINES in the 20 minutes before he was killed off than in his 3 previous seasons combined. I liked Noah. "I'm gonna be an architect, I'm gonna build something" *dies the same episode*
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Post by chronocross on Nov 27, 2018 11:23:37 GMT -5
Looking forward to Ep 9 in February and finding out what caused the tension between the communities.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Nov 27, 2018 11:26:22 GMT -5
This character is developing really well aaaaannnnnnddddddd their dead.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 27, 2018 11:30:20 GMT -5
This character is developing really well aaaaannnnnnddddddd their dead. Maybe that's the reason why they haven't given shit to Siddiq besides guy Carl saved
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Nov 27, 2018 11:38:42 GMT -5
Somehow Carol got away with it.
From a character who had she died in one of the first 2 seasons you'd probably barely remember her now to becoming one of the 3 main characters on the show.
Which I'm glad as even with the new silly Lord of the Rings look she is still one of my faves.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 27, 2018 11:58:02 GMT -5
Where do they even go with Hilltop now as far as leadership goes? Tara? She's obnoxious. Daryl? Not a leader at all. The only character left who would really be good in that role is Aaron, and they'll probably just kill him for no reason too.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 27, 2018 14:49:06 GMT -5
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Post by Manute Bol on Nov 27, 2018 18:27:57 GMT -5
Hopefully they stick to the comics and have Negan work with the group to take down The Whisperers. I want to see that redemption arc. Thanks for the spoiler ass.
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