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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 21:48:02 GMT -5
As explained in the MLB thread, the Mets suck...they suck BAD. So I'm imaging a scenario where I am the GM of the Mets and am accepting proposals from my players. Here are the guys on the block and what I am looking for: Main guys on the block: Jacob deGrom (FA after 2020 season. Looking for top prospects and young controllable talent that are ready or already in the MLB.) Noah Syndergaard (FA after 2021 season. Need MLB ready pitcher with #1-#2 potential along with a few top ten prospects in a team's system.) Zack Wheeler (FA after 2019 season. One top ten prospect and a lottery ticket type in A ball.) Steven Matz (FA after 2021. Two top ten prospects.) Seth Lugo (FA after 2022. One top five prospect and one lottery ticket. High price due to wanting to more hold onto him.) Asdrubal Cabrera (FA after this year. One lottery ticket and one filler guy.) Todd Frazier (FA after next year. One top ten prospect ideal but willing to hear about anything.) Untouchable for the most part: Michael Conforto Amed Rosario Brandon Nimmo Get to proposing. Office will reopen Sunday morning  |
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Post by S-Chrome on Jun 30, 2018 22:14:43 GMT -5
I’ll bite since the likelihood of it is slim and none. Yankees get: Jacob deGrom Mets get: OF Clint Frazier, SP Justus Sheffield, 3B: Brandon Drury, SP Luis Medina, P Domingo Acevedo, OF Estevan Florial Why? The minor leaguers from across town get a cornerstone Young OF consisting of Conforto, Nimmo and Frazier for 5+ years. Cespedes is an injury magnet DH at this point and the NL has no DH. Big time starting prospect for the immediate future in Sheffield and down the line in Medina, with a swing guy in Acevedo. Drury can step into any infield position (Not SS) and is cost-controlled for many years. Florial could be a major OF in the future or a major trading chip. There will be no Torres nor Andujar. They’re too good to be Mets.  |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 1, 2018 8:43:34 GMT -5
I’ll bite since the likelihood of it is slim and none. Yankees get: Jacob deGrom Mets get: OF Clint Frazier, SP Justus Sheffield, 3B: Brandon Drury, SP Luis Medina, P Domingo Acevedo, OF Estevan Florial Why? The minor leaguers from across town get a cornerstone Young OF consisting of Conforto, Nimmo and Frazier for 5+ years. Cespedes is an injury magnet DH at this point and the NL has no DH. Big time starting prospect for the immediate future in Sheffield and down the line in Medina, with a swing guy in Acevedo. Drury can step into any infield position (Not SS) and is cost-controlled for many years. Florial could be a major OF in the future or a major trading chip. There will be no Torres nor Andujar. They’re too good to be Mets. Hell no
You're going to trade the Yankees top two OF's and their top Left handed pitching prospect that's not happening
Frazier, Florial, and Sheffield aren't all going to the Mets. One or two maybe but not all 3
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Post by S-Chrome on Jul 1, 2018 9:48:29 GMT -5
I’ll bite since the likelihood of it is slim and none. Yankees get: Jacob deGrom Mets get: OF Clint Frazier, SP Justus Sheffield, 3B: Brandon Drury, SP Luis Medina, P Domingo Acevedo, OF Estevan Florial Why? The minor leaguers from across town get a cornerstone Young OF consisting of Conforto, Nimmo and Frazier for 5+ years. Cespedes is an injury magnet DH at this point and the NL has no DH. Big time starting prospect for the immediate future in Sheffield and down the line in Medina, with a swing guy in Acevedo. Drury can step into any infield position (Not SS) and is cost-controlled for many years. Florial could be a major OF in the future or a major trading chip. There will be no Torres nor Andujar. They’re too good to be Mets. Hell no You're going to trade the Yankees top two OF's and their top Left handed pitching prospect that's not happening
Frazier, Florial, and Sheffield aren't all going to the Mets. One or two maybe but not all 3
True. You could drop Florial and Medina from the proposal and it would be a reasonable trade, but it's a deal between the Mets and Yankees were talking.about. The Mets aren't going to deal with the Yankees unless an they can absolutely fleece the Yankees lock, stock, and barrel. Hence which I said the likelihood is very little. Me though, I'd throw in Sonny Gray as well. He's diarrhea. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 9:54:54 GMT -5
I’ll bite since the likelihood of it is slim and none. Yankees get: Jacob deGrom Mets get: OF Clint Frazier, SP Justus Sheffield, 3B: Brandon Drury, SP Luis Medina, P Domingo Acevedo, OF Estevan Florial Why? The minor leaguers from across town get a cornerstone Young OF consisting of Conforto, Nimmo and Frazier for 5+ years. Cespedes is an injury magnet DH at this point and the NL has no DH. Big time starting prospect for the immediate future in Sheffield and down the line in Medina, with a swing guy in Acevedo. Drury can step into any infield position (Not SS) and is cost-controlled for many years. Florial could be a major OF in the future or a major trading chip. There will be no Torres nor Andujar. They’re too good to be Mets. I'd definitely consider that but I would REALLY want one of Torres or Andujar (Andujar being much more likely.) Would you throw in Andujar if it meant taking out Frazier and Florial? |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 1, 2018 9:58:33 GMT -5
Hell no You're going to trade the Yankees top two OF's and their top Left handed pitching prospect that's not happening
Frazier, Florial, and Sheffield aren't all going to the Mets. One or two maybe but not all 3
True. You could drop Florial and Medina from the proposal and it would be a reasonable trade, but it's a deal between the Mets and Yankees were talking.about. The Mets aren't going to deal with the Yankees unless an they can absolutely fleece the Yankees lock, stock, and barrel. Hence which I said the likelihood is very little. Me though, I'd throw in Sonny Gray as well. He's diarrhea. You def created the perfect fleece scenario but yeah Mets would be laughing all the way to the bank with that trade
As I put in the main MLB thread i'm going with the the "realistic Cashman approach" of P Chance Adams, 1B/OF Tyler Austin, P Dillon Tate, and P Doningo German
That's a trade I believe he would accept all day losing top pitching prosepct Chance Adams while losing 2 decent arms and a good bat in Austin.
Frazier is a beast player who's stuck in the minors because the OF is so crowded but I believe Cash hasn't traded him because he's so good plus there will be room next year. If Gardy returns it will be more on a part time role I believe and while Hicks is emerging I doubt Cash commits money to him when he has years of control in Florial and Frazier
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 1, 2018 10:02:06 GMT -5
I’ll bite since the likelihood of it is slim and none. Yankees get: Jacob deGrom Mets get: OF Clint Frazier, SP Justus Sheffield, 3B: Brandon Drury, SP Luis Medina, P Domingo Acevedo, OF Estevan Florial Why? The minor leaguers from across town get a cornerstone Young OF consisting of Conforto, Nimmo and Frazier for 5+ years. Cespedes is an injury magnet DH at this point and the NL has no DH. Big time starting prospect for the immediate future in Sheffield and down the line in Medina, with a swing guy in Acevedo. Drury can step into any infield position (Not SS) and is cost-controlled for many years. Florial could be a major OF in the future or a major trading chip. There will be no Torres nor Andujar. They’re too good to be Mets. I'd definitely consider that but I would REALLY want one of Torres or Andujar (Andujar being much more likely.) Would you throw in Andujar if it meant taking out Frazier and Florial? Sheffield,Drury,Medina, Acevedo, and Andujar is doable
Cashman would probably rather lose Adams than Sheffield tho because he's a lefty and they have good shelf lives.
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Post by S-Chrome on Jul 1, 2018 10:05:47 GMT -5
I’ll bite since the likelihood of it is slim and none. Yankees get: Jacob deGrom Mets get: OF Clint Frazier, SP Justus Sheffield, 3B: Brandon Drury, SP Luis Medina, P Domingo Acevedo, OF Estevan Florial Why? The minor leaguers from across town get a cornerstone Young OF consisting of Conforto, Nimmo and Frazier for 5+ years. Cespedes is an injury magnet DH at this point and the NL has no DH. Big time starting prospect for the immediate future in Sheffield and down the line in Medina, with a swing guy in Acevedo. Drury can step into any infield position (Not SS) and is cost-controlled for many years. Florial could be a major OF in the future or a major trading chip. There will be no Torres nor Andujar. They’re too good to be Mets. I'd definitely consider that but I would REALLY want one of Torres or Andujar (Andujar being much more likely.) Would you throw in Andujar if it meant taking out Frazier and Florial? No. Andujar, defensive deficiencies and all, looks like a special player. I'm not for blasting away 300+M for Machado, especially in a lively market where the Yankees could easily get outbid by the Dodgers. While Frazier is the odds-on starting LF/DH for the Yankees in 2019, there are a couple of more options in the outfield for the Yankees in the near future like Billy McKinney. Realistically, you could refer to Captain's post about the stark unlikelihood of Frazier+Florial+Sheffield being dealt for just deGrom. Now, if it was deGrom and Matz... |
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Post by Reflecto on Jul 1, 2018 18:38:04 GMT -5
Okay...since the Mets are open and the Red Sox think of prospects as "what prospects?", I'll bite here:
Red Sox get: Noah Syndergaard (FA after 2021 season. Need MLB ready pitcher with #1-#2 potential along with a few top ten prospects in a team's system.)[/quote]
Mets get: Jay Groome, Michael Chavis, Sam Travis, Bryan Mata.
It's not an MLB ready pitcher, but it's four top-10 prospects, two of them pitchers with top starter potential.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 21:05:49 GMT -5
Okay...since the Mets are open and the Red Sox think of prospects as "what prospects?", I'll bite here: Red Sox get: Noah Syndergaard (FA after 2021 season. Need MLB ready pitcher with #1-#2 potential along with a few top ten prospects in a team's system.) Mets get: Jay Groome, Michael Chavis, Sam Travis, Bryan Mata. It's not an MLB ready pitcher, but it's four top-10 prospects, two of them pitchers with top starter potential.[/quote] I would not do that deal. I don't see any fit with Boston. |
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Post by BRV on Jul 9, 2018 9:59:53 GMT -5
Jacob deGrom (FA after 2020 season. Looking for top prospects and young controllable talent that are ready or already in the MLB.) Mets trade Jacob deGrom to New York Yankees for LHP Justus Sheffield, RHP Jonathan Loaisiga, OF Billy McKinney, 1B Tyler Austin Mets trade Zack Wheeler to Colorado Rockies for 3B Colton Welker and OF Raimel Tapia Mets trade Steven Matz to San Francisco Giants for OF Chris Shaw and RHP Tyler Beede Mets trade Seth Lugo to Boston Red Sox for RHP Bryan Mata and LHP Jalen Beeks Mets trade Asdrubal Cabrera to Oakland Athletics for SS Kevin Merrell and RHP Nolan Blackwood Mets trade Todd Frazier to Los Angeles Angels for LHP Jose Suarez I'm not trading Noah Syndergaard. He's 25 years old and under team control through the next three-and-a-half seasons. When you have a young ace pitcher, even one with injury issues, you hold onto him unless someone offers a king's ransom. But considering these are my hypothetical Mets, I'm keeping Thor and using him as a building block to the next generation. So when it's all said and done, my Mets of the future will be tanking for 2019 and possibly the first half of 2020, but then the team blossoms with a lineup of C Travis d'Arnaud, 1B Peter Alonso, 2B Andres Gimenez, 3B Colton Welker, SS Amed Rosario, OFs Michael Conforto, Billy McKinney, and Tyler Austin. Coming off the bench, we'll have a speedster in Raimel Tapia, a power bat in Chris Shaw, a middle infielder in Kevin Merrell. And a pitching staff of Noah Syndergaard, Justus Sheffield, Robert Gsellman, Jonathan Loaisiga, and Justin Dunn, with young arms like Tyler Beede, Jalen Beeks, Bryan Mata, Nolan Blackwood, and Jose Suarez in the bullpen. |
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