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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 12, 2018 12:08:58 GMT -5
Disney just announced that the role of Lando will now be played by Tommy Lee Jones. I love this gif because it looks like the woman in the back is having the time of her life laughing at Tommy.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 12, 2018 15:32:35 GMT -5
could he be Fiinn’s Dad ? Finndo Calrissian?
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Post by Cyno on Jul 12, 2018 15:57:58 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding me, but now I have to ask: How much of that was really Lee doing it, and how much of it was a stuntman? It was all stuntman, obviously. But with CG being where it is now, age isn't a factor in whether an actor participated in action scenes. Hell, Mark Hamill's only involvement in the "duel" between Luke and Ren was during the closeups. Any lime Luke was shown moving it was a stunt double. The point being, Billy Dee may not be capable of filming an action scene, but Lando's capable of participating in one. If Rogue One can have Peter Cushing appear from beyond the grave, they can do an older Lando for Episode IX.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 27, 2018 16:22:13 GMT -5
Leia will appear via unused footage from The Force Awakens.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 16:42:23 GMT -5
My first thought.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jul 27, 2018 16:45:12 GMT -5
I'm really thankful we've got a while until it comes out.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jul 27, 2018 16:55:51 GMT -5
Richard E. Grant?!
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Post by Cyno on Jul 27, 2018 17:56:18 GMT -5
I'm glad they're doing this with Billie Lourd's blessing. Leia, and Carrie, deserve a true send-off instead of being written off between episodes or having another actor or CG person used. Glad that extra footage is around to be used.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 18:34:48 GMT -5
When I heard about Carrie Fisher, the first thing that went through my mind was that quote from Lister in Red Dwarf “Death isn't the handicap it used to be in the olden days. It doesn't screw your career up like it used to“
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jul 29, 2018 18:44:33 GMT -5
When I heard about Carrie Fisher, the first thing that went through my mind was that quote from Lister in Red Dwarf “Death isn't the handicap it used to be in the olden days. It doesn't screw your career up like it used to“ So you're saying that Leia will have a capital H on her forehead in IX?
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 29, 2018 18:56:49 GMT -5
Man, I hope it's not like when Mother Soprano died and they had the CGI thing
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 29, 2018 19:00:11 GMT -5
When I heard about Carrie Fisher, the first thing that went through my mind was that quote from Lister in Red Dwarf “Death isn't the handicap it used to be in the olden days. It doesn't screw your career up like it used to“ So you're saying that Leia will have a capital H on her forehead in IX? Rey, "Why does the General have an H on her forehead?" C3P0, "Perhaps the General did it in honor of the Hosnian System that was lost when..." *gets cut off*Finn, "It stands for Han..." *gets cut off*Poe, "Actually it stands for Hando who should have been in the last movie..." *gets cut off*
Leia, "Can't a girl just get a random H tattoo on her forehead anymore?"
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 29, 2018 22:19:24 GMT -5
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Post by Ryushinku on Jul 30, 2018 5:46:04 GMT -5
We all knew Luke would be back, pleased with that.
Lando is nice. I know Billy Dee is meant to have had some health problems in recent years but if he's good to go, fantastic. Bit bittersweet no new Han-Lando scenes.
Leia a bit of a surprise, didn't think they had enough previous footage left. Felt they were kind of painted into a corner, given how much screen time and role they gave her in The Last Jedi to then disappear completely, though.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 30, 2018 8:39:08 GMT -5
Killing off Han was insanely stupid, even though I guess it had to be done since Ford didn't want to be back for multiple movies. But in the process you get no Luke/Han stuff here, no new Lando/Han stuff either.
The cut Leia scene desperately sounds like it needed to be in the Force Awakens. That was one major problem I had with the film, namely the complete and utter lack of what is actually going on in the galaxy. As in what's the overall situation? Leia going to a council or senate or whatever and asking for resources would have gone a long way to explaining things.
Oh, and isn't the woman laughing at Tommy Lee Jones in the GIF actually Kathleen Kennedy?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 9:02:25 GMT -5
Huh. Was the movie going to begin with Leia on Hosnian Prime? Didn't know this. According to the book Leia sent her personal aide to Hosnian Prime in her place (and the gal we get the close-up of as the planet's about to be destroyed is that aide) while she remained on D'Qar, so this is interesting... Also I'm curious to see how the hell the Republic govt. still exists post-Episode VII, given.......well, you know.
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 30, 2018 10:24:43 GMT -5
Huh. Was the movie going to begin with Leia on Hosnian Prime? Didn't know this. According to the book Leia sent her personal aide to Hosnian Prime in her place (and the gal we get the close-up of as the planet's about to be destroyed is that aide) while she remained on D'Qar, so this is interesting... Also I'm curious to see how the hell the Republic govt. still exists post-Episode VII, given.......well, you know. It doesn't exist. In IX she could be asking independent planets/groups for help instead of the Republic, or they could just edit the footage so she's not requesting help at all. It just depends on what she actually said in that scene or even if they'll change the audio to other things she said.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 30, 2018 11:56:54 GMT -5
Killing off Han was insanely stupid, even though I guess it had to be done since Ford didn't want to be back for multiple movies. But in the process you get no Luke/Han stuff here, no new Lando/Han stuff either. The cut Leia scene desperately sounds like it needed to be in the Force Awakens. That was one major problem I had with the film, namely the complete and utter lack of what is actually going on in the galaxy. As in what's the overall situation? Leia going to a council or senate or whatever and asking for resources would have gone a long way to explaining things. Oh, and isn't the woman laughing at Tommy Lee Jones in the GIF actually Kathleen Kennedy? The thing is all that stuff happened in supplementary materials, as Disney wanted to make the leadup to Force Awakens and everything as this big multimedia project. And JJ Abrams has never been what I'd consider a good world (or galaxy) builder even if that wasn't the case.
I guess it was also done not to bog down Episode VII in setting up the world like how Episode I was bogged down in setting up all the intricate political stuff that would give rise to Palpatine. But they probably went too far in not setting up the world within the confines of the movie.
I do think killing Han off was the right move, though. It sucks from a nostalgic perspective because I loved Han as a character, but it fits in with the overall narrative theme of the old making way for the new. Plus, Ford wanted them to kill Han off or he wasn't even going to be in the movie in the first place.
Yeah, the Republic government itself went kaput with Hosnian Prime. I'm not sure if they hobbled together some sort of provisional government in the wake of Hosnian Prime's destruction, but it seems like the New Republic is for all intents and purposes collapsed. According to the supplementary materials, the New Republic was MUCH smaller in membership than the old Galactic Republic or the Empire as a lot of planets were wary of joining a big intergalactic government again. So there's a lot of independent worlds out there with their own resources they could contribute, especially if they want to maintain their freedom from the First Order. There's also probably remnants of the New Republic Navy that weren't at Hosnian when it got blown up that wouldn't mind a little vengeance against the First Order.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 12:18:45 GMT -5
Yeah, the Republic government itself went kaput with Hosnian Prime. I'm not sure if they hobbled together some sort of provisional government in the wake of Hosnian Prime's destruction, but it seems like the New Republic is for all intents and purposes collapsed. According to the supplementary materials, the New Republic was MUCH smaller in membership than the old Galactic Republic or the Empire as a lot of planets were wary of joining a big intergalactic government again. So there's a lot of independent worlds out there with their own resources they could contribute, especially if they want to maintain their freedom from the First Order. There's also probably remnants of the New Republic Navy that weren't at Hosnian when it got blown up that wouldn't mind a little vengeance against the First Order.
I get the New Republic being smaller than the Old Republic - the idea of many planets being wary of joining again was something that was around in the EU pre-Disney as well. But it seems pretty idiotic for the Republic to have put all their ducks in one barrel like that; both politically and militarily. IIRC in the supplemental info the Republic would go from planet to planet every couple years and set up "floating" capitol worlds so that the entire membership had a Republic presence at some point.....a nice idea, but one would think there'd be an awful lot of presence in those places, and others, before & afterward to make any catastrophe like this easily addressable. I suspect we'll have to see more remnants of the Republic fleet (especially considering The First Order is essentially built upon the old Imperial Remnant from post-ROTJ), as well as that gang of pilots who vanished between 7 & 8 (unless they don't make it out of this current story in the Marvel Poe Dameron comic explains where they were in TLJ, that is)
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Post by Cyno on Jul 30, 2018 12:31:25 GMT -5
Star Wars has always had issues of scale, especially when you consider how massive a galaxy is. But then, from what I've read of the new stuff, the New Republic didn't exactly seem well-organized and was already filled with a lot of the problems that plagued its predecessor. The New Republic military was also much more in line with the pre-Clone Wars Republic as opposed to the massive fleets of the Clone Wars-era Republic military and the massive Imperial military machine. Probably why the First Order was able to get such a big jump on things, considering they likely put ALL their resources into building a new military powerhouse along with whatever was left from the old Imperial Navy brought to the cause by the remaining hardliners.
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