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Post by The Rick Jericho on Aug 18, 2018 19:27:06 GMT -5
I've noticed in Baseball, long time veterans after years in the big leagues, still use interpreters and don't speak english.
Meanwhile in other sports, athletes like Yao Ming and Shinsuke Nakamura and hockey players who came from other countries picked up the language pretty quickly once they came to America. Anyone know if there is an unwritten code or maybe they just signed them to play ball and they don't have to worry about promotional things?
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Post by AwamoriRock on Aug 18, 2018 19:46:57 GMT -5
I've noticed in Baseball, long time veterans after years in the big leagues, still use interpreters and don't speak english. Meanwhile in other sports, athletes like Yao Ming and Shinsuke Nakamura and hockey players who came from other countries picked up the language pretty quickly once they came to America. Anyone know if there is an unwritten code or maybe they just signed them to play ball and they don't have to worry about promotional things? For a lot of players, they are comfortable with English in the club house and could communicate at a press conference fairly well, but rely on interpreters in interviews and on the mound simply because they don’t want anything to come across wrong or just don’t feel confident. Ichiro and Vlad were like that.
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Post by sfvega on Aug 18, 2018 20:15:56 GMT -5
I think it depends. There are still a number of Russian hockey players who still speak very limited English. I feel like Latin players in baseball have so many peers/managers/scouts/etc who speak Spanish that they can get by personally/professionally without having to speak fluent English. I think that it also helps to not be a bigger star, guys who are going to be requested to speak or get endorsement offers. Yao was a cultural phemonenon, and a large part of Shinsuke's profession is promos. So those guys really have an expectation to speak English a lot. I think it's great actually for baseball that guys can come over here and assimilate into the culture while being able to learn English at their own pace. I assume it is the same as like American wrestlers going to NJPW, where many of them learn to speak Japanese very well while others learn just the bare minimum to get by.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 18, 2018 23:58:35 GMT -5
My personal belief is if you are playing somewhere or going to be in a place where you have to work for a while you should learn some of their language to be able to communicate. If you are playing baseball in Japan, learn a little japanese and vice versa if you play in the U.S.
Derek Jeter has recently told players he wants them all to take spanish lessons to be able to communicate with the latin players better which I have no problem with but you know people are going to say latin players should do the same which is also true
You also have to take into account that some players can speak English just fine but use an interpreter just to have shit fully clear. Yu Darvish can speak fluent english but he uses his interpreter a lot for press conferences and the such. Same with Ichiro as well
In regards to wrestlers like Nakamura, Itami, Asuka, Sane they know the importance of being able to speak English which is why in NXT they took the time to learn. Nak already came over with a head start but look at Itami Day 1 and look at him now, he made great strides. If you want to learn you can but not everyone is going to take that initiative
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Post by Cyno on Aug 19, 2018 1:57:03 GMT -5
Yeah, for a lot of players it's not that they can't speak English. A lot of them can speak and understand English quite well. It's that they use interpreters either because they don't want to misspeak or accidentally say something wrong or insulting, or because they don't want to confuse the press or fans who can't understand their English in thick accents (which in turn ties into the first reason, too).
But then you have some guys like Gleyber Torres who not only speak English, but are comfortable enough speaking it without an interpreter.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 19, 2018 2:07:58 GMT -5
Yeah, for a lot of players it's not that they can't speak English. A lot of them can speak and understand English quite well. It's that they use interpreters either because they don't want to misspeak or accidentally say something wrong or insulting, or because they don't want to confuse the press or fans who can't understand their English in thick accents (which in turn ties into the first reason, too). But then you have some guys like Gleyber Torres who not only speak English, but are comfortable enough speaking it without an interpreter. Same with Andujar
Could have sworn him and Torres was using an interpreter when they first got called up and now are comfortable doing interviews without one in just a few months
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 7:53:57 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it mandatory for FIFA players to know both English and French?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 23, 2018 9:43:08 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it mandatory for FIFA players to know both English and French? Maybe executives, but not players. With the makeup of squads in the top European leagues, there are normally a couple of people speaking whatever native language there is which helps. Usually in those situations, it's off the field stuff that becomes a problem first, culture issues, isolation since they can't communicate. On the field generally it's easier to make it work.
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Post by MrElijah on Aug 23, 2018 20:14:37 GMT -5
An aside, But I've heard that Ichiro used to have an Fired Up, Profanity Laden speech for the AL All-Star team basically saying the NL isn't shit.
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Post by ryanjoste on Aug 30, 2018 19:04:24 GMT -5
I've noticed in Baseball, long time veterans after years in the big leagues, still use interpreters and don't speak english. Or, in the case of Sammy Sosa, speak perfectly fine english your entire career, then suddenly claim you can't speak it when testifying about steroids.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 31, 2018 0:34:24 GMT -5
I've noticed in Baseball, long time veterans after years in the big leagues, still use interpreters and don't speak english. Or, in the case of Sammy Sosa, speak perfectly fine english your entire career, then suddenly claim you can't speak it when testifying about steroids.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Sept 4, 2018 2:54:24 GMT -5
I've noticed in Baseball, long time veterans after years in the big leagues, still use interpreters and don't speak english. Or, in the case of Sammy Sosa, speak perfectly fine english your entire career, then suddenly claim you can't speak it when testifying about steroids. I can't really blame Sosa on that since he was in front of Congress under oath. I am semi-fluent in Mexican Spanish but if I was in the same situation I would need an interpreter as well.
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Post by ryanjoste on Sept 4, 2018 15:06:28 GMT -5
Or, in the case of Sammy Sosa, speak perfectly fine english your entire career, then suddenly claim you can't speak it when testifying about steroids. I can't really blame Sosa on that since he was in front of Congress under oath. I am semi-fluent in Mexican Spanish but if I was in the same situation I would need an interpreter as well. True, but it is a really bad look when people have heard you do 100's of interviews with no problem and when you have to testify about steroids you all of a sudden need an interpreter. He didn't think that one through.
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Post by corndog on Sept 10, 2018 2:19:52 GMT -5
My personal belief is if you are playing somewhere or going to be in a place where you have to work for a while you should learn some of their language to be able to communicate. If you are playing baseball in Japan, learn a little japanese and vice versa if you play in the U.S. Derek Jeter has recently told players he wants them all to take spanish lessons to be able to communicate with the latin players better which I have no problem with but you know people are going to say latin players should do the same which is also true You also have to take into account that some players can speak English just fine but use an interpreter just to have shit fully clear. Yu Darvish can speak fluent english but he uses his interpreter a lot for press conferences and the such. Same with Ichiro as well In regards to wrestlers like Nakamura, Itami, Asuka, Sane they know the importance of being able to speak English which is why in NXT they took the time to learn. Nak already came over with a head start but look at Itami Day 1 and look at him now, he made great strides. If you want to learn you can but not everyone is going to take that initiative Darvish actually did a couple interviews during free agency without his translator to work on his English. Seems like most Latin American players speak English in interviews, at least with the Cubs. I am also going to guess they learn the baseball terms first and then work on conversations. Also, as others have said, they probably like to have a translator in interviews so there aren't mistakes and they don't get misquoted.
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