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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 28, 2018 4:04:09 GMT -5
Well I guess now I can add onto this incredibly topical and relevant Vampire: The Masquerade joke from the live thread: When your crew is a Lasombra who's just hanging onto the weirdos until he gets a chance to break out, a Ventrue who acts like the worst student council rat you've ever seen, and a Toreador who you're secretly planning on hiring an Aasimite to diablerise the f*** out of just because his player is the most annoying f***ing guy ever. Because the crew just gained the most f***ing cartoonish Gangrel heavy you've ever seen.
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Post by feartear on Aug 28, 2018 4:34:18 GMT -5
Am I the only one in the Whole wide world who considers Braun's actions reasonable?
Last week he was going to cash in, but the Shield screw him over, outnumbered him and powerbombed him.
Did you really espect Braun to NOT ally with Dolph and Drew to even the odds?
It's a heel turn, yes, but it's not without reasons.
...also, "invincible squasher hero" Strowman was getting really boring.
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Post by BoomPeriod on Aug 28, 2018 4:49:22 GMT -5
What did you think would happen? They should have kept the title on Lesnar. Seriously. Forget about Roman and Braun. Have them fight for the midcard or something or do some tag team stuff. Have others rise up to face Lesnar. *cough* *cough* Lashley?
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Post by 111111 on Aug 28, 2018 5:02:22 GMT -5
At this point they have to be using reverse logic 4d chess to try and rally the fans behind Braun as "the mean old WWE have turned him heel so f*** then let's cheer him anyway" I really cant believe them to be this dense.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 28, 2018 5:22:49 GMT -5
I just want to add that Braun is way better than Ryback
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Post by msc on Aug 28, 2018 5:32:03 GMT -5
Things have a habit of screwing up around their Roman Reigns plans, so I'm convinced this move will actually turn Braun, Ziggler and especially Drew into Rock 2000 level babyfaces.
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Post by starscream76 on Aug 28, 2018 5:48:36 GMT -5
WWE's "writers" are just so God awful at what they do. They produce some of the most stupid shit to be allowed on TV every week. Common sense would say the 3 mall security guards are the heels in this storyline...but since their golden boy (AKA the black hole of personality, entertainment and charisma) is champion they have to ruin everything. Roman Reigns is the cancer every body used to say Cena was. At least there was justification of pushing him.
Roman Reigns push is punishment for fans being fans. That's all this is.
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Post by BoomPeriod on Aug 28, 2018 5:52:16 GMT -5
He had to turn heel so WWE could promote their newly trademarked phrase "Heel in a steel".
"THIS SUNDAY! BRAUN STROWMAN! ROMAN REIGNS! UNIVERSAL TITLE! HEEL IN A STEEL!"
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 28, 2018 7:34:33 GMT -5
Watching him raise Ziggler's hand was one of the most depressing things ever. It's the kiss of death, Braun. I warned you. In all this, not enough people are drawing attention to Dolph Ziggler and how bad he is for other talent at the moment.
This is a dude that over the past 5 years has been subject to so many stop-start pushes, angles where he looked like a total bellend despite being the face, and one incredibly badly timed heel turn that the fans have given up on him. He simply cannot get heat. And now the dude is the main event with the UC Title holder.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 8:08:13 GMT -5
I told you all, lol.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Aug 28, 2018 8:19:02 GMT -5
Watching him raise Ziggler's hand was one of the most depressing things ever. It's the kiss of death, Braun. I warned you. In all this, not enough people are drawing attention to Dolph Ziggler and how bad he is for other talent at the moment. This is a dude that over the past 5 years has been subject to so many stop-start pushes, angles where he looked like a total bellend despite being the face, and one incredibly badly timed heel turn that the fans have given up on him. He simply cannot get heat. And now the dude is the main event with the UC Title holder.
Every time I think of Dolph, I think of that picture of him writhing in pain from TLC 2016 with the "Loser, Loser, Loser, Loser" caption below him. It pretty much sums up his career in the past few years.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 28, 2018 9:15:47 GMT -5
Watching him raise Ziggler's hand was one of the most depressing things ever. It's the kiss of death, Braun. I warned you. In all this, not enough people are drawing attention to Dolph Ziggler and how bad he is for other talent at the moment. This is a dude that over the past 5 years has been subject to so many stop-start pushes, angles where he looked like a total bellend despite being the face, and one incredibly badly timed heel turn that the fans have given up on him. He simply cannot get heat. And now the dude is the main event with the UC Title holder.
No one is talking about Ziggler being bad for other talent because he isnt The crowd was into his feud for Rollins,The IC title looked important , Rollins and Dean looked strong. Even Drew is a fairly well received heel thanks to this partnership. But Braun should never be associated with the duo. it is just stupid,doesnt fit Braun at all
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 28, 2018 10:24:52 GMT -5
Me: Strowman probably should find some help to even up the odds, even though he threw a semi truck and should just be able to punch people into a red mist.
VINCE: YOU'VE GOT IT, PAL! HOW ABOUT DREW MCINTYRE?
Me: Okay, that could be cool. Wait, he's teaming with...
VINCE: AND DOLPH ZIGGLER!
Me: Ugh.
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 28, 2018 10:31:26 GMT -5
And is it just me, or were the crowd really quiet for the whole turn? Like they didn't know how to react?
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Aug 28, 2018 10:38:17 GMT -5
And is it just me, or were the crowd really quiet for the whole turn? Like they didn't know how to react? Were the fans booing them at the end for being heels or because they were confused?
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Post by sportatorium on Aug 28, 2018 12:15:58 GMT -5
And is it just me, or were the crowd really quiet for the whole turn? Like they didn't know how to react? Yes, and for long parts of the match when Roman was selling. They wanted Strowman in the ring and just went quiet whenever the heels had Roman isolated. The biggest pops were for Dean & Seth running in.
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Post by BigAl on Aug 28, 2018 12:31:17 GMT -5
On YouTube the many comments from Roman fans who pretty much have given up on Braun but then again in the same roman fans who actually thinks he's the greatest wrestler ever, goat, roman is better than the rock and Austin, still seems like a lot of fans are going to turn on Braun
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Post by theironyuppie on Aug 28, 2018 12:43:40 GMT -5
I think this turn is worse than Becky's. While that one hasn't been well received, at least there was some thought put into the writing, and you can point to valid long-term reasons for it (Charlotte is likely challenging Ronda next year, SDL has a severe imbalance of heels/faces and needed a star face to turn heel etc: ). This one though? That's tougher.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 12:54:31 GMT -5
I fear that this is going to begin the long awaited “big show” turns where he literally turns on the drop of a dime.
But, this is literally how he got over in the first place. Not because of cheap pops or catchphrases or comedy. Just him wrecking shit, killing Roman, and saying I’m not finished with you. This turn isn’t going to work at all solely because he’s going back to what got him over in the first place.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 28, 2018 13:15:50 GMT -5
I fear that this is going to begin the long awaited “big show” turns where he literally turns on the drop of a dime. But, this is literally how he got over in the first place. Not because of cheap pops or catchphrases or comedy. Just him wrecking shit, killing Roman, and saying I’m not finished with you. This turn isn’t going to work at all solely because he’s going back to what got him over in the first place. I think they "learned" this time and are having Braun have hired goons. I'm not saying they learned the right lesson...
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