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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 8, 2019 17:39:55 GMT -5
I hope it answers that lingering question of what exactly the Resistance is resisting. Um, the First Order. Yeah, that part is pretty self-explanatory. Where the movies have fallen down is explaining how it got to that stage. Comic books and novels just don't cut it for vital exposition.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 8, 2019 19:07:08 GMT -5
Yeah, that part is pretty self-explanatory. Where the movies have fallen down is explaining how it got to that stage. Comic books and novels just don't cut it for vital exposition. See, I see this brought up a lot online but I just...don't get it. I'll confess to not having read any of the modern EU stuff until more recently, but even before that it was pretty clear to me while watching TFA what was going on based on what that movie showed & told and the information the title crawl gave us. The First Order are remnants of the Empire and extremists. They are only a threat because the republic at large doesn't really want to deal with them (and there's been a few implications in the movies that the republic isn't as connected as they once were and pockets of it are far more insular) and because it's the Star Wars universe and this galaxy will always have corruption on every level (something The Last Jedi shows too). The Resistance are those fighting them because they recognize them as the threat they are. I don't really see why they need to spend more time explaining it than that. Maybe one scene with Leia talking to whoever the new powers that be are and maybe showing either their indifference, their fear or maybe even their corruption as to why the full force of the galaxy isn't behind the Resistance. But that's not entirely necessary. We never saw scenes like that really in the original trilogy. We didn't need every detail of the Empire and the Rebel Alliance explained, like why only certain planets joined the Rebels if the Empire was so bad, who let the Empire become the way it is, how did it get to that stage. I don't think we do now either. You stuff these movies with too much of that and you get the prequels and, uh, no thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 21:21:51 GMT -5
I'm pretty pumped for this. I'm happy that I'll get to watch it right away and not have to wait for my girlfriend, since she doesn't like Star Wars.
Any news on if the service is going to allow downloads? I'm sure I'll need something new to watch on the treadmill by the time this rolls out.
EDIT: Google says "yes" to that download question. Awesome!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 8, 2019 21:39:10 GMT -5
Yeah, that part is pretty self-explanatory. Where the movies have fallen down is explaining how it got to that stage. Comic books and novels just don't cut it for vital exposition. See, I see this brought up a lot online but I just...don't get it. I'll confess to not having read any of the modern EU stuff until more recently, but even before that it was pretty clear to me while watching TFA what was going on based on what that movie showed & told and the information the title crawl gave us. The First Order are remnants of the Empire and extremists. They are only a threat because the republic at large doesn't really want to deal with them (and there's been a few implications in the movies that the republic isn't as connected as they once were and pockets of it are far more insular) and because it's the Star Wars universe and this galaxy will always have corruption on every level (something The Last Jedi shows too). The Resistance are those fighting them because they recognize them as the threat they are. I don't really see why they need to spend more time explaining it than that. Maybe one scene with Leia talking to whoever the new powers that be are and maybe showing either their indifference, their fear or maybe even their corruption as to why the full force of the galaxy isn't behind the Resistance. But that's not entirely necessary. We never saw scenes like that really in the original trilogy. We didn't need every detail of the Empire and the Rebel Alliance explained, like why only certain planets joined the Rebels if the Empire was so bad, who let the Empire become the way it is, how did it get to that stage. I don't think we do now either. You stuff these movies with too much of that and you get the prequels and, uh, no thanks. Yeah, the First order were pretty blatantly either Imperial Remnants who didnt just immediately disappear since the emperor died or imperial sympathisers who thought they had the right idea. (Or both) I can't see how anyone could miss that they weren't particularly subtle.
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Post by Glitch on Sept 8, 2019 21:53:48 GMT -5
Yeah, that part is pretty self-explanatory. Where the movies have fallen down is explaining how it got to that stage. Comic books and novels just don't cut it for vital exposition. See, I see this brought up a lot online but I just...don't get it. I'll confess to not having read any of the modern EU stuff until more recently, but even before that it was pretty clear to me while watching TFA what was going on based on what that movie showed & told and the information the title crawl gave us. The First Order are remnants of the Empire and extremists. They are only a threat because the republic at large doesn't really want to deal with them (and there's been a few implications in the movies that the republic isn't as connected as they once were and pockets of it are far more insular) and because it's the Star Wars universe and this galaxy will always have corruption on every level (something The Last Jedi shows too). The Resistance are those fighting them because they recognize them as the threat they are. I don't really see why they need to spend more time explaining it than that. Maybe one scene with Leia talking to whoever the new powers that be are and maybe showing either their indifference, their fear or maybe even their corruption as to why the full force of the galaxy isn't behind the Resistance. But that's not entirely necessary. We never saw scenes like that really in the original trilogy. We didn't need every detail of the Empire and the Rebel Alliance explained, like why only certain planets joined the Rebels if the Empire was so bad, who let the Empire become the way it is, how did it get to that stage. I don't think we do now either. You stuff these movies with too much of that and you get the prequels and, uh, no thanks. Here's the problem. The name "The Resistance " is misleading because it sounds like a rebellion( Which they are not). They are an outside faction attacking from outside the territory of the First Order. The confusion is made worse by the fact that they resemble the Rebel Alliance. I had to read up on Star Wars wiki in order to find out what exactly they were.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 9:08:05 GMT -5
Yeah, that part is pretty self-explanatory. Where the movies have fallen down is explaining how it got to that stage. Comic books and novels just don't cut it for vital exposition. That's how Star Wars has always existed though. Why was the Rebel Alliance against the Empire? Why were the Sith so upset? What about Ord Mantell? Why are you measuring the Kessel Run in parsecs? They got TOO reliant on that practice with the prequels, where the comics/books ran alongside the movies and had to explain whole subplots and developments in the movies. But the idea of the movies not quite explaining everything and the comics/novels doing that is nothing new whatsoever.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 9, 2019 10:10:53 GMT -5
Yeah, that part is pretty self-explanatory. Where the movies have fallen down is explaining how it got to that stage. Comic books and novels just don't cut it for vital exposition. That's how Star Wars has always existed though. Why was the Rebel Alliance against the Empire? Why were the Sith so upset? What about Ord Mantell? Why are you measuring the Kessel Run in parsecs? They got TOO reliant on that practice with the prequels, where the comics/books ran alongside the movies and had to explain whole subplots and developments in the movies. But the idea of the movies not quite explaining everything and the comics/novels doing that is nothing new whatsoever. Yeah, I'm not advocating anything like what they did with the prequels, but the OT gave you everything you needed to know, relying on classic storytelling tropes to establish that the Rebellion are freedom fighters and the Empire as a fascist regime. It's simple, very black-and-white, and requires no knowledge of the wider world to glean context. The sequels feel like when you're reading a novel series and skip a couple of books. The setting is familiar, and there's characters you recognise, but a lot of stuff is different and there's no real context as to how it is different or came to be that way. For example, it's never really established that the First Order and the Resistance are both actually relatively small factions compared to the Empire and Rebel Alliance until Last Jedi sees the Resistance effectively wiped out. Is it absolutely vital to know this? Not really, but it's certainly more relevant than knowing what Ord Mantell is or why the Kessel Run is measured in parsecs. I don't need them to beat us over the head with exposition, as some of the more fierce critics of the sequels demand, and as someone who will happily spend hours reading Wookiepedia I'm obviously quite happy to do the legwork filling in the gaps myself, but meeting halfway would be helpful.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 21:18:00 GMT -5
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Oct 18, 2019 21:19:36 GMT -5
Yo, this is dope, I didn’t even know it was scheduled like that. I love that they’re scheduled.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 21:22:26 GMT -5
Also, the penultimate episode is scheduled for December 18th instead of December 20th. Makes sense, a little movie comes out on the 20th.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Oct 19, 2019 0:33:30 GMT -5
Hype. This looks like the best bit of Star Wars love action in who knows how long.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 19, 2019 1:04:20 GMT -5
Im glad theyre not dropping all at once. I dont like bingewatching.
Releasing them staggered means I csn A) avoid spoilers and B) discuss the episodes when their relevant. Not 3 weeks later once I've finalky seen them
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Oct 20, 2019 0:23:00 GMT -5
collider.com/the-mandalorian-reviews-reactions/Some people got to see nearly 30 minutes of it and the reactions are overwhelmingly positive. Sounds like this is exactly what a huge sect of the fandom have wanted and tasted with other things like Rogue One and Rebels.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 1:24:23 GMT -5
I'll be honest, this disappoints me a little. I was hoping to binge watch it all in one day. Now I'm going to have to wait until a week after Rise Of Skywalker if I wanna do that. Who the hell am I kidding though? I'll be too excited to wait and watch them as they come out anyway.
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Post by Muskrat on Oct 20, 2019 9:06:20 GMT -5
I'll be honest, this disappoints me a little. I was hoping to binge watch it all in one day. Now I'm going to have to wait until a week after Rise Of Skywalker if I wanna do that. Who the hell am I kidding though? I'll be too excited to wait and watch them as they come out anyway. Even a split binge cycle would’ve been preferable. It’s only 8 episode, drop 4 wait 2 weeks and drop the other 4
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Oct 20, 2019 12:46:15 GMT -5
I'm glad they are not dropping it all at once. I don't mind binge watching but with something like this I'd feel like I'd be forced to watch them all ASAP before people start spoiling everything online. I don't need that pressure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 20:27:47 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 28, 2019 20:59:59 GMT -5
Looks really good.
seeing a non force/skywalker section of the Galaxy is something that's been sorely needed in my opinion
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Post by Cyno on Oct 28, 2019 21:18:27 GMT -5
He finally speaks! I think I said this before, but I hope they don't reveal his name at least for the first season. Just call him "The Mandalorian" like The Man With No Name in Sergio Leone's westerns or the nameless rōnin in Yojimbo.
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Post by ookkie on Oct 28, 2019 22:11:59 GMT -5
Anyone know when and how Canadians can sign up for Disney Plus?
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