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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 7:53:40 GMT -5
Yeah, sure, he might talk scary and the match might last awhile but don't worry, if the match has any stakes at all, you'll beat him every single time. Doesn't matter if it's trying to show up Reigns or trying to take out Rollins or Money in the Bank or the WWE title or the Universal title or a slot in King of the Ring or the last donut, Joe's going to lose every single time. It might be a tough match but it's one you're going to win.
And NO, the point of the thread isn't, "He lost to AJ Styles after a close match, what a loser." It's, "A close match is the best he can achieve because Joe never beats anybody, ever." A good showing doesn't mean jack shit if that's all you ever get. I really would've had Joe lose the title right back on SmackDown 1000 anyway but at least it'd have been a win instead of him just yet again failing to live up to the hype.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Oct 6, 2018 7:57:26 GMT -5
Seems like Joe is suffering from Bray Wyatt Syndrome (talks a big game, but loses almost every time).
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Post by evilhomer on Oct 6, 2018 8:00:44 GMT -5
But he can beat Tye Dillinger
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 6, 2018 8:06:55 GMT -5
Joe and Nakamura should feud over the WWE United States title, I mean the title of who is the bigger AJ Styles bitch!
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Oct 6, 2018 8:10:24 GMT -5
I really think he should have won the US title off of Hardy at one point, or perhaps gone over Roman that one time to give him some more notches under his belt. Even if they didn't put the world/universal belt on him, I do agree there were ways to boost his stature WWE didn't take advantage of.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 8:19:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure what they do with him after this. A feud with Rusev would be rad, but he's wrapped up in a storyline with Aiden at the moment. R-Truth? As over as he and Carmella are, it still feels like a step down. I suppose he could join forces with someone to feud with New Day...
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Oct 6, 2018 8:32:23 GMT -5
Samoa Joe's been like the suckiest dude to ever suck in kayfabe for his whole run. Even his NXT title run was super brief and ended with him getting his ass kicked at a house show.
Even the YouTube documentary thing made to hype him up was mostly about him preparing for matches, losing them, and going "well, back to the drawing board...."
Samoa Joe is the Hank Aaron XXIV of monster heels.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 8:36:20 GMT -5
Samoa Joe's been like the suckiest dude to ever suck in kayfabe for his whole run. Even his NXT title run was super brief and ended with him getting his ass kicked at a house show. Samoa Joe is the Hank Aaron XXIV of wrestling. Hell, both his NXT title reigns were that. Both of them were just, "Great, you're the champ, now immediately lose to Nakamura." I still don't at all understand why Nakamura won their first match honestly. It was pretty much immediately blowing any possible drama in the title win because he won it four months and two Takeovers in in a match that really had basically no build. It'd be like if they decided to use that Battleground four-way nobody remembers to crown Roman.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Oct 6, 2018 8:43:03 GMT -5
Samoa Joe's been like the suckiest dude to ever suck in kayfabe for his whole run. Even his NXT title run was super brief and ended with him getting his ass kicked at a house show. Samoa Joe is the Hank Aaron XXIV of wrestling. Hell, both his NXT title reigns were that. Both of them were just, "Great, you're the champ, now immediately lose to Nakamura." I still don't at all understand why Nakamura won their first match honestly. It was pretty much immediately blowing any possible drama in the title win because he won it four months and two Takeovers in in a match that really had basically no build. It'd be like if they decided to use that Battleground four-way nobody remembers to crown Roman. I totally forgot that he lost the title, won it back, and then immediately lost it again. f***ing hell that's even sadder.
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Post by Optimax on Oct 6, 2018 8:44:49 GMT -5
Hell, both his NXT title reigns were that. Both of them were just, "Great, you're the champ, now immediately lose to Nakamura." I still don't at all understand why Nakamura won their first match honestly. It was pretty much immediately blowing any possible drama in the title win because he won it four months and two Takeovers in in a match that really had basically no build. It'd be like if they decided to use that Battleground four-way nobody remembers to crown Roman. I totally forgot that he lost the title, won it back, and then immediately lost it again. f***ing hell that's even sadder. To be fair he won the title back, as they advertised Joe defending the title in a steel cage Match at the Melbourne NXT show that was recorded you for the network.
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Post by . on Oct 6, 2018 8:48:52 GMT -5
So you're saying The main title did not change on a glorified house show in a company who are the masters at killing momentum because of their 'one above all' mentality?
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Post by MrElijah on Oct 6, 2018 8:50:44 GMT -5
EVERY time I see the Someone's a bitch as a title, I wanna go into Toothpicks' rant from Don't Be A Menace.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 9:05:02 GMT -5
But he can beat Tye Dillinger Mike Knox can beat Tye Dillinger.
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Post by Optimax on Oct 6, 2018 9:09:44 GMT -5
But he can beat Tye Dillinger Mike Knox can beat Tye Dillinger. Woah Woah Woah Yeah you're probably right
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 6, 2018 9:10:55 GMT -5
Joe should've won the title in this feud, but he really got screwed when he lost to Brock.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 6, 2018 9:13:52 GMT -5
Joe (and Nakamura too) may have benefitted from Styles’s reign being more along the lines of defending against different challengers each time as opposed to extended feuds that were book-ended by clean wins for Styles, first match being OK and the third match being really good, with a disputed finish in the middle. Randy Orton, Andrade Almas, maybe even Killian Dain, all could have been great one month challengers, I don’t know. I like the idea of them having a long babyface reign for once, and people generally like Styles, but for some... I can tell it’s not clicking.
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Post by Optimax on Oct 6, 2018 9:17:20 GMT -5
Joe (and Nakamura too) may have benefitted from Styles’s reign being more along the lines of defending against different challengers each time as opposed to extended feuds that were book-ended by clean wins for Styles, first match being OK and the third match being really good, with a disputed finish in the middle. Randy Orton, Andrade Almas, maybe even Killian Dain, all could have been great one month challengers, I don’t know. I like the idea of them having a long babyface reign for once, and people generally like Styles, but for some... I can tell it’s not clicking. Agreed Monster of the month style feuds instead of long one sided feuds. The reverse of the triple h reign of terror
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 9:25:47 GMT -5
He’s a nice bitch though cause that was a nice doll that he bought AJ’s daughter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 9:48:46 GMT -5
WWWWWEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLL.....
Samoa Joe's a bitch, a big fat bitch He's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world. He's a stupid bitch, if there ever was a bitch He's a bitch to all the Universe
On Raw he was a bitch On Smackdown he's a bitch At Super Showdown, he's a bitch Then on Sundays, just to be different He's a super King Kamehameha biyotch!
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Post by 4real on Oct 6, 2018 10:18:28 GMT -5
Yep knew he wasn't getting the title. Styles is getting to a year with the belt more than likely and there are just more challengers for AJ than Joe.
I still love Joe but I don't think WWE had any serious plans of putting the title on him. Which makes the finish at Hell In A Cell more baffling. Will always be a fan, he'll probably never be Champ but not everyone can be.
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