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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 21, 2018 11:59:43 GMT -5
Press Release: I am starting my own wrestling company, it is guaranteed to lose less money than Khan's shitfest. I'll supply the mats for the workers to tumble around on. Now we just have to figure out how to get Old Man Tronsin off our backs. Unfortunately, you won't have Jim Spagg's Sex Show as a lead-in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 12:00:17 GMT -5
I really have no clue why anyone would be instantly declaring this thing a guaranteed failure or money pit. If it dives directly into trying to go head-to-head with Raw night one, sure, but going by the initial report it sounds like they know what they're in for and know that it'd take some time to build things up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 12:06:27 GMT -5
Yeah, why so cynical? The Elite guys have made very savvy choices so far so if they took a chance like this I'd at least be interested to see what they can do. There's really no reason to bag on these investors till we know what they're made of. This is cool news, I'd rather hope that they do good work.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 21, 2018 12:08:33 GMT -5
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Post by TGM on Nov 21, 2018 12:17:30 GMT -5
More alternatives to WWE the better. Good luck to them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 12:18:21 GMT -5
I mean, even then though... Like, why? I mean, Jericho is certainly two-faced, a dick, seemingly an alcoholic, and egotistical, but he doesn't really seem like one for ripping people off. He still puts actual effort into his work wherever he wrestles, he takes the whole music thing seriously, and on the whole word of mouth on the cruise doesn't seem like it's been horrible (though granted I've not seen a lot of it). I'm not exactly hyped for his involvement but I'm not really seeing any reason to see him as an anchor dragging the whole thing down.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 21, 2018 12:49:26 GMT -5
I mean, even then though... Like, why? I mean, Jericho is certainly two-faced, a dick, seemingly an alcoholic, and egotistical, but he doesn't really seem like one for ripping people off. He still puts actual effort into his work wherever he wrestles, he takes the whole music thing seriously, and on the whole word of mouth on the cruise doesn't seem like it's been horrible (though granted I've not seen a lot of it). I'm not exactly hyped for his involvement but I'm not really seeing any reason to see him as an anchor dragging the whole thing down. Because he has displayed carny tendencies. It started with the paywall messages responding to Punk. Then with his slezebag tweet about trying to get women into the cruise. I don’t trust him with so much power.
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Post by KofiMania on Nov 21, 2018 12:53:17 GMT -5
I mean, even then though... Like, why? I mean, Jericho is certainly two-faced, a dick, seemingly an alcoholic, and egotistical, but he doesn't really seem like one for ripping people off. He still puts actual effort into his work wherever he wrestles, he takes the whole music thing seriously, and on the whole word of mouth on the cruise doesn't seem like it's been horrible (though granted I've not seen a lot of it). I'm not exactly hyped for his involvement but I'm not really seeing any reason to see him as an anchor dragging the whole thing down. Because he has displayed carny tendencies. It started with the paywall messages responding to Punk. Then with his slezebag tweet about trying to get women into the cruise. I don’t trust him with so much power. Very flimsy evidence of him being a “scam artist.”
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 21, 2018 12:53:55 GMT -5
I really have no clue why anyone would be instantly declaring this thing a guaranteed failure or money pit. If it dives directly into trying to go head-to-head with Raw night one, sure, but going by the initial report it sounds like they know what they're in for and know that it'd take some time to build things up. Because history isn’t kind to money marks. Please read about what happened to Herb Abrams or Dixie Carter and how the boys manipulated them out of millions. Whether it be Bam Bam Bigelow doing coke with Abrams or Kevin Nash taking Dixie Carter to a hotel and giving her wine, money marks end up getting worked and over spending. See what Jimmy Hart did to the guy who won the lottery and decided to open a female wrestling company, or the money mark who killed himself after FMW went under.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 21, 2018 12:55:04 GMT -5
I don't think it'll be a disaster but I hope both are not expecting "All In" level support. There is a lot of easy to access wrestling just between ROH, NJPW, and WWE, fans getting burned out is inevitable.
Don't get me wrong, I want them to be successful and I think they'd have done their due-diligence, I am just starting to wonder how much more the market can take.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 21, 2018 12:56:04 GMT -5
Because he has displayed carny tendencies. It started with the paywall messages responding to Punk. Then with his slezebag tweet about trying to get women into the cruise. I don’t trust him with so much power. Very flimsy evidence of him being a “scam artist.” What? He did a paywall message trying to explain why he wasn’t interested in money, he also came one step closer to trying to pimp women to sell tickets to the cruise. Then all the wack jobs that he invites to the podcast, he prostituted the Benoit tragedies by having Bill Apter lie and say that a hitman did it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 12:56:20 GMT -5
I mean, even then though... Like, why? I mean, Jericho is certainly two-faced, a dick, seemingly an alcoholic, and egotistical, but he doesn't really seem like one for ripping people off. He still puts actual effort into his work wherever he wrestles, he takes the whole music thing seriously, and on the whole word of mouth on the cruise doesn't seem like it's been horrible (though granted I've not seen a lot of it). I'm not exactly hyped for his involvement but I'm not really seeing any reason to see him as an anchor dragging the whole thing down. Because he has displayed carny tendencies. It started with the paywall messages responding to Punk. Then with his slezebag tweet about trying to get women into the cruise. I don’t trust him with so much power. Pretty much. Carnies gonna carny. That and he stood up for Bill DeMott also didn't help. I'm all for more promotions, especially competent promotions, because what we see in WWE right now should not be the only offering we must endure, but at the same time, I don't want incompetence or unscrupulous shenanigans to be rewarded, especially considering that, all things considered, Shahid Khan does have good intentions with Fulham and the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 21, 2018 12:59:39 GMT -5
Because he has displayed carny tendencies. It started with the paywall messages responding to Punk. Then with his slezebag tweet about trying to get women into the cruise. I don’t trust him with so much power. Pretty much. Carnies gonna carny. That and he stood up for Bill DeMott also didn't help. I'm all for more promotions, especially competent promotions, because what we see in WWE right now should not be the only offering we must endure, but at the same time, I don't want incompetence or unscrupulous shenanigans to be rewarded, especially considering that, all things considered, Shahid Khan does have good intentions. And unfortunately Khan isn’t the best businessman. The Jaguars had the lowest attendance in nfl for years, Fulham is always on the threat of relegation and isn’t a steady franchise. Buy my main fear is when Tony Khan declared that he’s doing this for his son who is a fan, it’s a vanity project not a serious endeavor.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 21, 2018 13:06:57 GMT -5
Because he has displayed carny tendencies. It started with the paywall messages responding to Punk. Then with his slezebag tweet about trying to get women into the cruise. I don’t trust him with so much power. Pretty much. Carnies gonna carny. That and he stood up for Bill DeMott also didn't help. I'm all for more promotions, especially competent promotions, because what we see in WWE right now should not be the only offering we must endure, but at the same time, I don't want incompetence or unscrupulous shenanigans to be rewarded, especially considering that, all things considered, Shahid Khan does have good intentions with Fulham and the Jacksonville Jaguars. See, at first, I didn't really mind Jericho buddying up to The Elite as much as a lot of other people did, but this really puts it in another light entirely. He's piggybacking off of them to swindle a money mark now, and that's just freaking disgusting.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Nov 21, 2018 13:09:51 GMT -5
Pretty much. Carnies gonna carny. That and he stood up for Bill DeMott also didn't help. I'm all for more promotions, especially competent promotions, because what we see in WWE right now should not be the only offering we must endure, but at the same time, I don't want incompetence or unscrupulous shenanigans to be rewarded, especially considering that, all things considered, Shahid Khan does have good intentions with Fulham and the Jacksonville Jaguars. See, at first, I didn't really mind Jericho buddying up to The Elite as much as a lot of other people did, but this really puts it in another light entirely. He's piggybacking off of them to swindle a money mark now, and that's just freaking disgusting. Oh stop it, this is an incredible speculation based on nothing.
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Post by KofiMania on Nov 21, 2018 13:10:42 GMT -5
Pretty much. Carnies gonna carny. That and he stood up for Bill DeMott also didn't help. I'm all for more promotions, especially competent promotions, because what we see in WWE right now should not be the only offering we must endure, but at the same time, I don't want incompetence or unscrupulous shenanigans to be rewarded, especially considering that, all things considered, Shahid Khan does have good intentions with Fulham and the Jacksonville Jaguars. See, at first, I didn't really mind Jericho buddying up to The Elite as much as a lot of other people did, but this really puts it in another light entirely. He's piggybacking off of them to swindle a money mark now, and that's just freaking disgusting. Jericho is not some broke, looking-for-work wrestler.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Nov 21, 2018 13:11:25 GMT -5
Very flimsy evidence of him being a “scam artist.” What? He did a paywall message trying to explain why he wasn’t interested in money, he also came one step closer to trying to pimp women to sell tickets to the cruise. Then all the wack jobs that he invites to the podcast, he prostituted the Benoit tragedies by having Bill Apter lie and say that a hitman did it. No. You're not going to turn this into one of your threads where you try to rally everyone up to hate someone. You already made these same Jericho posts in another thread recently. That's enough of that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 13:16:55 GMT -5
IDK if this will be a disaster but it feels Dixie Carter all over again rich parent funds their kids little pet project of running their own promotion.
If this does end up doing anything especially if it fails will be that the shine on the Bucks is starting to fade...they will have their contingent but the realization will hit them they are no longer the commodity they were.
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Post by Juice on Nov 21, 2018 13:20:02 GMT -5
I love and support Jericho. I hate and don't support JR.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Nov 21, 2018 13:23:02 GMT -5
No. You're not going to turn this into one of your threads where you try to rally everyone up to hate someone. You already made these same Jericho posts in another thread recently. That's enough of that. This isn’t about his personal life it’s recent business dealings. I hope they succeed because we need more companies as fans, I’m not rallying anyone here, just expressing my opinion. I'll level with ya, your tendency to express those opinions over and over and over and over where you grab onto a wrestler and then continuously list everything wrong with them and every rumor as a reason they should be hated is very, very tiring. You have an incredible memory I'll give ya that. And I'm not even saying you're wrong about any of it. Hell I agree like 95% of the time. But chill out man lol
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