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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 3:14:05 GMT -5
Something funky happened with that last quote. Let's try this again. (ooc: Sorry about how long it took to reply, Real Life and Red Dead 2 ) I can understand your feeling of needing to act, but I am of the mind of giving everyone we know a chance to explain themselves before making rash decisions. Quite simple, we get one vote and I don't feel the need to be one whose vote bounces from person to person. I will vote when I feel the time is right. I would hardly call my vote a "rash decision." It takes six votes to hammer and we were still on page 1. He was never in any danger, especially considering how reluctant everyone here seems to be about voting. We get one vote, yes, but we can move it as often as we like. Waiting for everyone to speak isn't going to accomplish anything without some votes out there to put pressure on people. The Mafia players aren't going to say or do anything incriminating if they're under no pressure and nobody suspects them. We have to find them. When do you feel that the time will be right to vote for someone? Sometime before Day 1 ends, I hope.
I will place my vote before the end of day 1 if the need calls for it. I do suggest we stop bickering and look to our more quiet townsfolk and try them for clues if you want to put pressure on people. I have a suspicion, a theory, I'm working on but it's a work in progress. Basically, The mechanics behind said idea are, if we look to certain folk, like Big Bad Brad, an uneducated girl, some of our other townfolk, they all seem to drink. Now, we have 'Foretold' Joker who seems to be well spoken, I believe him to be of a higher class. I believe the higher class are ganged together to eliminate us "scum", the town, to them. The uneducated, those who drink or have addiction. I'm not willing to vote yet as I want to hear his side. So, to make Skull happy. FOS : 'Foretold' JokerEBWOP@dante Mr. Daime, what manner of company are you waiting for with baited breath? They may be in a period of mourning? Quite suspisious that you try to jump on those for whom the wound is freshest... How nice of you to say, She was one of my dearest friends. So I ask you all, Why would I kill such a close friend of mine? EBWOP@dante Mr. Daime, what manner of company are you waiting for with baited breath? Why Sir, I am but a girl who enjoys her peace and quiet with her drink. The company I seek is the kind who can keep me from being lonely and perhaps provide me with a bit of fun.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Oct 27, 2018 5:04:56 GMT -5
Obligatory Counting of the VotesBrandon Walsh is Insane. (1 nomination- Skull0mancer)Deadline for all ballots is Saturday, the 3rd of November, promptly at 8 in the morning Pacific Time
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Post by Skull0mancer on Oct 27, 2018 10:30:49 GMT -5
I do think that our villains are sitting back watching us right now. If I were to guess, I’d say one of them is active, at the moment. And what leads you to this conclusion? Skull, I can’t really quote you on mobile, but I refute your claim as me being Mafia scum. I wanted to put all thoughts out there. I am noticing that the vote was pretty quick on me, when I even brought up the idea that you could be scum. Interesting development, don’t you think? That's not why I voted for you. Read my post again. Now you're going out of your way to try to discredit me and make me look bad. Town doesn't need to do that. I think my vote is in the right place. I will place my vote before the end of day 1 if the need calls for it. I do suggest we stop bickering and look to our more quiet townsfolk and try them for clues if you want to put pressure on people. I have a suspicion, a theory, I'm working on but it's a work in progress. Basically, The mechanics behind said idea are, if we look to certain folk, like Big Bad Brad , an uneducated girl, some of our other townfolk, they all seem to drink. Now, we have 'Foretold' Joker who seems to be well spoken, I believe him to be of a higher class. I believe the higher class are ganged together to eliminate us "scum", the town, to them. The uneducated, those who drink or have addiction. I'm not willing to vote yet as I want to hear his side. So, to make Skull happy. FOS : 'Foretold' Joker We're not bickering. We're interacting and sharing ideas, which is a good thing. Your tone and your attitude make me think that you're Town, and talking to you more will help me figure out whether I can trust you. Tell me, what do you think about Bear Meat? Did his comments about the disagreement between me and Brainbustah grab your attention in any way? What has Joker done that you feel is more worthy of suspicion than Bear Meat playing both sides of the fence and instigating a "Skull vs. Brainbustah" dichotomy?
I do appreciate that you're trying to make me happy with the FOS, though. D'awww, aren't you sweet.
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Post by Skull0mancer on Oct 27, 2018 10:35:09 GMT -5
And, again, I haven't made any indication that I expect players to "embrace" me. What did I say or do that made you think I was trying to do this? This wasn't a rhetorical question, Bear Meat. I would like to know why you said this.
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Post by jagilki on Oct 27, 2018 10:44:34 GMT -5
Forgive my silence. I've been busy with off board stuff.
It's been a long while since I've played this game, so I may take a bit to get back into the swing of things. Also throw in the fact that the last few years of playing mafia was on another board where the same 20 or so people have played mafia games with each other for about 3-4 years or so and it will take a small adjustment. Not really related to this game, but fun fact, when you play with a small group of people for that long you can tell when person x is mafia or town just by their first post, because of familiarity.
One reason the idea of playing a game with totally new people is an appealing idea.
Right now I have no votes or suspicions. The in character chatter is slightly throwing me.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Oct 27, 2018 11:37:10 GMT -5
Oh dear, I hope you aren't thinking I am some sort of social high flyer @dante. Although I used to run in those circles, since the Typhoid claimed my husband times have been tough. As in so far my only opinion of doubt is at TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out as he said 'My spirit rises in seeing how quickly we have worked to find the deviants and grow closer as a town' possibly a little too keen to be with the community? FOS: TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out But take that with a grain of salt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 15:01:59 GMT -5
Oh dear, I hope you aren't thinking I am some sort of social high flyer @dante. Although I used to run in those circles, since the Typhoid claimed my husband times have been tough. As in so far my only opinion of doubt is at TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out as he said 'My spirit rises in seeing how quickly we have worked to find the deviants and grow closer as a town' possibly a little too keen to be with the community? FOS: TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out But take that with a grain of salt. It appears we have quite a cotillion gathered of the fairer sex. I apologize for the rough circumstances that has rendered you one of Gissing's Odd Women. Does TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out strike you as sincere?
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Oct 27, 2018 17:08:05 GMT -5
Oh dear, I hope you aren't thinking I am some sort of social high flyer @dante. Although I used to run in those circles, since the Typhoid claimed my husband times have been tough. As in so far my only opinion of doubt is at TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out as he said 'My spirit rises in seeing how quickly we have worked to find the deviants and grow closer as a town' possibly a little too keen to be with the community? FOS: TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out But take that with a grain of salt. Why should my desire to bring all of us together in this trying time be suspicious? Are we already letting these animals win by turning against each other, or are you trying to split us apart for your own gain? FOS: 'Foretold' Joker
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Oct 27, 2018 17:44:47 GMT -5
OK, so going off what I've been seeing in the thread thus far since my last post, I'm much more convinced that skull is Town. You don't be that aggressive on Day One and be scum because that draws way too much attention. However, with the two people going right after Joker, it DOES raise a tad bit of suspicion with me. Either it's coincidence or scum is following scum's lead.
So, on that basis,
FOS: Old School Daime
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Oct 27, 2018 18:30:39 GMT -5
OK, so going off what I've been seeing in the thread thus far since my last post, I'm much more convinced that skull is Town. You don't be that aggressive on Day One and be scum because that draws way too much attention. However, with the two people going right after Joker, it DOES raise a tad bit of suspicion with me. Either it's coincidence or scum is following scum's lead. So, on that basis, FOS: Old School DaimeMy vote was purely in response to being targeted for trying to unite the townsfolk against a common enemy.
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Post by lodirulz on Oct 28, 2018 9:29:29 GMT -5
Alright, here's what we should do: We should put together a list of questions for all of us to answer, myself included. What they would do in certain game situations, why they would use that strategy, etc. That way we get everyone on record now, and then later in the game, we can perhaps point towards their answers and make connections with them.
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Post by Skull0mancer on Oct 28, 2018 10:56:03 GMT -5
The problem with being that aggressive this early is that if you're Town, you may be inadvertently raising suspicion that you're scum, and if you're scum you may be bringing a lot of unwanted suspicion on yourself. I'm leaning towards you being the former but it's pretty tenuous. OK, so going off what I've been seeing in the thread thus far since my last post, I'm much more convinced that skull is Town. You don't be that aggressive on Day One and be scum because that draws way too much attention. You're contradicting yourself. First you say that being aggressive makes me seem scummy, and then you say that me being aggressive makes you think I'm Town. In your experience, what is the link between aggression and alignment? If you think that an aggressive playstyle makes me Town, then why did you originally say that me being aggressive would make people think I'm Scum? That's all well and good that you've formed an opinion of me, but I'm still trying to figure you out, my dude.
However, with the two people going right after Joker, it DOES raise a tad bit of suspicion with me. Either it's coincidence or scum is following scum's lead. So, on that basis, FOS: Old School DaimeNah, if Daime and KEVIN were Scum together, they wouldn't be that obvious about it. Also, Daime is Town. What is your opinion of Bear Meat?
Alright, here's what we should do: We should put together a list of questions for all of us to answer, myself included. What they would do in certain game situations, why they would use that strategy, etc. That way we get everyone on record now, and then later in the game, we can perhaps point towards their answers and make connections with them. If you think this will help, go for it.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Oct 28, 2018 10:57:47 GMT -5
.... I'm not seeing any contradiction here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 11:21:26 GMT -5
.... I'm not seeing any contradiction here. While I cannot glean your particular brand of fidelity to Town or Anarchy, there does not appear to be a contradiction to the logic your post employed. I do question the relevancy of your words to our particular situation, however. Who do you feel warrants our immediate attention?
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Oct 28, 2018 13:59:28 GMT -5
.... I'm not seeing any contradiction here. While I cannot glean your particular brand of fidelity to Town or Anarchy, there does not appear to be a contradiction to the logic your post employed. I do question the relevancy of your words to our particular situation, however. Who do you feel warrants our immediate attention? My suspicion remains on Daime. If skull can give me a good argument as to WHY he thinks Daime is Town, then I'll back off.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Oct 28, 2018 15:45:06 GMT -5
And, again, I haven't made any indication that I expect players to "embrace" me. What did I say or do that made you think I was trying to do this? This wasn't a rhetorical question, Bear Meat. I would like to know why you said this. By coming out strong, sure you would ruffle feathers but at the same time, you’d have players embrace you and immediately believe you’re town. We are all looking for a leader, and when steps up, it’s easily to follow their thinking and leave ourselves open to being killed off, one by one. Ever since brainbustahhh was called out and that ended, he has been quiet tho. Maybe you were right about him initially. We have a ~20% chance of voting scum off on day 1, maybe? A vote is our strongest weapon, I’ll figure out where my vote goes this week. Retaliation FOS between the others has caught my attention tho.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Oct 28, 2018 19:26:35 GMT -5
Retaliation FOS between the others has caught my attention tho. I have to assume this refers to me. I would like to know why you're ignoring the fact that the reason I have formally accused 'Foretold' Joker is because they found my calls to bring the town together reason to call for my death.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 20:32:35 GMT -5
Truth be told, I might have a false lead on Joker. It was an idea I presented based on what I've read in character so far. As far as Bear Meat, I believe what he is doing to be of a tactical sense. I don't feel him being scum. As for what I mean with a tactical sense, I see him playing you two to see how you both react under pressure. A scum will fold as to not draw attention where as town are more likely to fight, if that makes sense. OK, so going off what I've been seeing in the thread thus far since my last post, I'm much more convinced that skull is Town. You don't be that aggressive on Day One and be scum because that draws way too much attention. However, with the two people going right after Joker, it DOES raise a tad bit of suspicion with me. Either it's coincidence or scum is following scum's lead. So, on that basis, FOS: Old School DaimeIt was purely a coincidence. I went for Joker based off an idea I had and am willing to admit it was a half baked idea. I don't have any real suspicion yet but I plan on re-reading the topic again when I have more time.
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Post by Skull0mancer on Oct 28, 2018 22:43:01 GMT -5
.... I'm not seeing any contradiction here. Sigh. Okay. Once more, with feeling: The problem with being that aggressive this early is that if you're Town, you may be inadvertently raising suspicion that you're scum, and if you're scum you may be bringing a lot of unwanted suspicion on yourself. I'm leaning towards you being the former but it's pretty tenuous. Translation: "Being aggressive might make people think that you're Scum." You're saying that aggression is scummy -- or, at the very least, it can be construed as being scummy. If me being aggressive would make people think that I'm Scum, then that means that aggression would be a Scum characteristic, yes? OK, so going off what I've been seeing in the thread thus far since my last post, I'm much more convinced that skull is Town. You don't be that aggressive on Day One and be scum because that draws way too much attention. Translation: "I think Skull is Town because Scum would not be as aggressive as he's been." Now you're saying that you think I'm Town because my style is aggressive. If aggression alone is enough to make you think that I'm Town, then why did you originally say that me being aggressive could appear scummy? First you say that aggression is scummy and then you say that my aggression makes me Town. That's the contradiction. It cannot be both. Basically, I don't see how you came to the conclusion that I was Town when you appear to be employing the same logic that you used earlier in the game to say that I was doing something scummy. Take me through your thought process so I can see where you're coming from. It's not enough for you to say that you think I'm Town; I want to know why you think I'm Town.
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Post by Skull0mancer on Oct 28, 2018 22:43:28 GMT -5
By coming out strong, sure you would ruffle feathers but at the same time, you’d have players embrace you and immediately believe you’re town. We are all looking for a leader, and when steps up, it’s easily to follow their thinking and leave ourselves open to being killed off, one by one. And that's exactly what ended up happening, right? Wait, no, it wasn't. There were quite a few players -- yourself included -- who expressed suspicion of me early on. I have a hard time believing that you honestly believe what you're saying right now when you were so quick to cast doubt on my intentions.
Ever since brainbustahhh was called out and that ended, he has been quiet tho. Maybe you were right about him initially. We have a ~20% chance of voting scum off on day 1, maybe? A vote is our strongest weapon, I’ll figure out where my vote goes this week. Mafia isn't a game of chance. We're not throwing darts at a dart board here. We'd only have a 20-something percent chance of lynching Scum if we all put zero thought into our votes and voted randomly, and that's not what we're doing. Why did you feel that this was worth mentioning?
I thought Brainbustah's response to my vote was reasonable. Do you disagree? Retaliation FOS between the others has caught my attention tho. What "others"? Why not name names? Why not throw a vote in there to back up your words? This reluctance to engage the game is one of the reasons why I'm so suspicious of you. It's like you don't want to rock the boat because you're afraid that doing so will give the other players a reason to start looking at you more closely.
I do think that our villains are sitting back watching us right now. If I were to guess, I’d say one of them is active, at the moment. And, again, what makes you say this? This observation came completely out of the blue. Surely you had a reason for making it.
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