Who is worse in their current form- Taker or Kane?

[Nosnorb]

They are both equally awful.

[Deleted]

Far and away the Undertaker, he looks like he might collapse at any given second after about 5 minutes into the match

[Perfect Timing]

Kane easily. Been hard to take him seriously since he's worn that shitty mask. Plus he demasked years ago so what's the point.

[mcstoklasa]

I wish Taker went out after his awesome 2015 matches with Brock

[DZ: WF Legacy]

Kane based on his look alone. His mask and outfit are horrible and unflattering. Why does WWE have an excellent team of people who help design and tailor attires, and Kane has looked this way since 2012?

Undertaker just stopped evolving a long time ago. If you don't care just leave, man.

I still want to see Undertaker/Strowman, though. I don't want to see Kane/anyone.

[BoomPeriod]

The promos they cut on Raw were some of the best ever I thought. I loved those. In-ring they are both still good to me but past their prime for sure.

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Kane looked bloated and terrible. He's also back up to 320 lbs.

[zrowsdower]

Today has been depressing and all this negative talk regarding Kane is just even more depressing.

[King (Super) Dragunov]

I mean...Undertaker's hair didn't go flying out of the ring making me laugh so hard I cried.

[Deleted]

I seriously don't understand why they never went with a bald, masked kane. It seems like it would have had a Jason Voorhees vibe as opposed to the fake hair.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Taker could have helped save this revival by saying The Deadman was laid to rest, but he still remained, bringing back his Biker Gimmick. Make his style that of an old surly vet who knows he's past it, get rid of the mystique of Taker that was shot down by Roman, and make Taker a desperate piece of shit with nothing to lose anymore, a brawler, a cheater, a surly asshole, and you actually got something.

Taker as he is now, still in costume, still in gimmick, going through the motions, adds nothing to anyone and he just looks sad. There are ways you can make this shit work and at least be interesting, and WWE will never do it because Deadman Taker moves more merch (Even though you don't have to stop selling his merch if you change his gimmick, in fact YOU COULD MAKE MORE MERCH, but I digress)

[Big Chungus]

Nov 3, 2018 15:55:42 GMT -5 Hypnosis said:

What baaarrrr?

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

Kane was surprisingly bad at Crown Jewel but Taker's default is "broken down geezer whose just embarrassing himself". And I say this as a life long fan.

[edgestar]

Nov 4, 2018 15:22:28 GMT -5 zrowsdower said:

Today has been depressing and all this negative talk regarding Kane is just even more depressing.

I'm very sorry to hear that you've had a difficult time, but, people aren't really talking negatively, about Kane. They are just answering the question. For all we know, big fans of his, could have been saying he's worse, in his current form.

[riseofsetian1981]

I am just trying to figure out how Kane has the time to be involved with the WWE given his current job title.

[Deleted]

Undertaker, and it hurts me to say that.

What turned me into a wrestling fan was renting the Summerslam video that had Undertaker taking on Kama. I was hooked. Dude looked, acted, and carried himself like a total badass. I remember being a kid and being so distraught when Mankind gave him hist first clean loss (maybe it wasn't his first, but it was the first one I'd ever seen).

Time marched on, and he became ABA Undertaker. A lot of people hated that, but I loved that, too. Still carried himself like a complete badass, and came across as a big, nasty son of a bitch. He wrestled a more limited style, but at 6'10 and 300+... why WOULD you do a bunch of flashy stuff?

Then he came back as the phenom, and I was prepared for nothing but nostalgia. Instead, The Undertaker gave us the best matches of his career.

Before, and a few months after, his loss to Brock at Mania he managed to make it work again. He morphed his character and approach to be an aging veteran who wanted to show he still had it in him. The classic "Old Gunslinger" trope.

He should have retired after the Roman match. Sure, he could have showed up at the occasional Wrestlemania or anniversary show to do the chokeslam/tombstone/eyeroll routine to the Heath Slaters of the world, but the Roman match was about the most sensible sendoff you could receive. While I enjoyed watching Cena job out, it was unnecessary, the bloom was off the rose.

As selfish as it sounds, watching The Undertaker move around and try to wrestle these days is just sad. It's killed the image of a childhood hero. A man who was portrayed as immortal, but figuratively and literally, now suddenly looks very frail. I can't say I would have said no to the Crown Jewel payday; I'm sure it was probably the biggest payday of his whole career. It did, however, show me just how beat up and old the man behind the character is.

[zrowsdower]

Nov 5, 2018 14:03:40 GMT -5 edgestar said:

Nov 4, 2018 15:22:28 GMT -5 zrowsdower said:

Today has been depressing and all this negative talk regarding Kane is just even more depressing.

I'm very sorry to hear that you've had a difficult time, but, people aren't really talking negatively, about Kane. They are just answering the question. For all we know, big fans of his, could have been saying he's worse, in his current form.

Oh no, I wasn't entirely serious. I mean... I'm sort of depressed, but I know most of the Kane ribbing on here isn't out of pure spite