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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 15, 2018 14:07:23 GMT -5
Or is he gonna pull an angry disgruntled worked shoot return? If Impact do that, it will be a disaster. Worked shoots almost never do good business.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 16:34:31 GMT -5
Or is he gonna pull an angry disgruntled worked shoot return? If Impact do that, it will be a disaster. Worked shoots almost never do good business. Impact almost never does good business
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 17, 2018 10:45:59 GMT -5
Aries is still in the opening intro of Impact.
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Post by No One on Nov 18, 2018 19:26:41 GMT -5
It’s a work. Callis is an old out of touch carny that still thinks it’s 2001. You're deluded and will find any reason to shit up threads with your negative attitude regardless if it's true or not. Go away man, you're not a fan so just leave. I like his username.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 18, 2018 22:07:07 GMT -5
Or is he gonna pull an angry disgruntled worked shoot return? If Impact do that, it will be a disaster. Worked shoots almost never do good business. I need to quote Bobby Heenan again, Bobby was pissed off that Schiavone always hid the finishes from the rest of the announcers because Tony wanted them to react as if they were watching a shoot. Bobby then yelled at him, “There’s never been a shoot in this business because this shit is fake! The fans know it’s fake!”
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Post by benstudd on Nov 18, 2018 22:32:57 GMT -5
If this was a complete shoot then it caps off what people said from pretty early on; working with Aries wasn't going to do the company much good and it was going to end in problems. He and Low Ki are two of the best of their generation and they're both impossible-to-work-with jackhats who've screwed themselves out of opportunities and steady work. It's going to reach a point where they're only still getting as many bookings as they do because WWE is signing away everyone the hell else. Yea, didn't Low Ki last leave Impact because they weren't going to make him champ after they had Alberto give up the belt They had the dude join LAX and all that and then he's just gone Lowki revitalized the X Division, had a great match at Slammiversary with Sonjay, then they put him in the main event scene siding with LAX. Then they wanted him back in the X division, what did they expect. I mean it's so stupid, he was shinning in the X division, they had to screw it up.
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Post by markymark on Nov 19, 2018 8:15:16 GMT -5
At this point I wouldnt be surprised if Aries pulls an Enzo at Homecoming.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 19, 2018 18:53:19 GMT -5
At this point I wouldnt be surprised if Aries pulls an Enzo at Homecoming. Their current bookers seem to actually have a clue what they're doing given that they ejected Del Rio after his last f***up, so I'm not sure they're dumb enough for that. Also, frankly, I doubt they could afford what Enzo was asking for. And I don't mean that Enzo is asking for a reasonable price and TNA is broke.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 19, 2018 18:55:16 GMT -5
Yea, didn't Low Ki last leave Impact because they weren't going to make him champ after they had Alberto give up the belt They had the dude join LAX and all that and then he's just gone Lowki revitalized the X Division, had a great match at Slammiversary with Sonjay, then they put him in the main event scene siding with LAX. Then they wanted him back in the X division, what did they expect. I mean it's so stupid, he was shinning in the X division, they had to screw it up. TNA didn't screw anything up on that front; Low Ki walked because Low Ki always walks. That's what Low Ki does.
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Post by benstudd on Nov 20, 2018 17:20:01 GMT -5
Lowki revitalized the X Division, had a great match at Slammiversary with Sonjay, then they put him in the main event scene siding with LAX. Then they wanted him back in the X division, what did they expect. I mean it's so stupid, he was shinning in the X division, they had to screw it up. TNA didn't screw anything up on that front; Low Ki walked because Low Ki always walks. That's what Low Ki does. Sure he always does that. But when you deal with a porcepine, you don't go in there bare ass-first. Furthermore the X division was off the hook with him in there, why would you want to screw that up. Him joining LAX was so random.
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Post by markymark on Nov 20, 2018 18:16:18 GMT -5
LAX back then was getting hot, it couldve been become their version of the Bullet Club instead they had them look weak vs Patron.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 21, 2018 2:50:39 GMT -5
TNA didn't screw anything up on that front; Low Ki walked because Low Ki always walks. That's what Low Ki does. Sure he always does that. But when you deal with a porcepine, you don't go in there bare ass-first. Furthermore the X division was off the hook with him in there, why would you want to screw that up. Him joining LAX was so random. But is it smart to build your division around someone who's just going to f*** off when he loses interest? Moving him into LAX was a move I read as an attempt to bring his credibility to this group that was gaining steam and which they wanted to make a big deal out of, and him joining made decent sense to me given how closely tied to Homicide he's been through his career. If anything, I think trying to bring his heat and credibility to something you want to get off the ground before he has time to splot works a lot better than letting him be the cornerstone of the division just in time for him to bolt.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 4:33:39 GMT -5
Nothing would shock me as Aries is a super talented jerk but I still lean towards work as all of this was going on reports came out that Callis wanting to bring back Del Rio.Aries was great in Impact he was their best talker and worker and he could have a good match with anybody and that’s hugely missed.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 21, 2018 5:50:32 GMT -5
Nothing would shock me as Aries is a super talented jerk but I still lean towards work as all of this was going on reports came out that Callis wanting to bring back Del Rio.Aries was great in Impact he was their best talker and worker and he could have a good match with anybody and that’s hugely missed. Reports that nothing has come of, no reports of negotiations, contacts, ADR even being in the same state as Impact management. Impact leaks like a sieve, if there was any truth at all to it, it would have been all over Pwinsider by now. Callis likes ADR as a talent, many people do, but his unstable, unreliable behaviour means he's radioactive to major promotions. Aries, not so much, he leaves in a huff, but only when he's contractually able to do so, he's never outright fired for being toxic or noshowing. He gets mad, leaves, waits a while to cool off then returns, he's done it over and over, which is why I don't buy it being a work. It's an easy way to have a story pulled out of the air seem right, guy who cuts shooty ahole promos quits, then returns... Ignore it being a thing Aries does all the time, it's clearly a work and not the Aries cycle.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 10:54:50 GMT -5
Nothing would shock me as Aries is a super talented jerk but I still lean towards work as all of this was going on reports came out that Callis wanting to bring back Del Rio.Aries was great in Impact he was their best talker and worker and he could have a good match with anybody and that’s hugely missed. Reports that nothing has come of, no reports of negotiations, contacts, ADR even being in the same state as Impact management. Impact leaks like a sieve, if there was any truth at all to it, it would have been all over Pwinsider by now. Callis likes ADR as a talent, many people do, but his unstable, unreliable behaviour means he's radioactive to major promotion. Both PWinsider and Observer aswell as a few other sites reported right after BFG that Callis was pushing hard for ADR to return seeing he hasn’t gotten into trouble recently.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 21, 2018 11:07:18 GMT -5
Reports that nothing has come of, no reports of negotiations, contacts, ADR even being in the same state as Impact management. Impact leaks like a sieve, if there was any truth at all to it, it would have been all over Pwinsider by now. Callis likes ADR as a talent, many people do, but his unstable, unreliable behaviour means he's radioactive to major promotion. Both PWinsider and Observer aswell as a few other sites reported right after BFG that Callis was pushing hard for ADR to return seeing he hasn’t gotten into trouble recently. Can't speak for the observer, but PWinsider outright said it was BS. www.pwinsider.com/article.php?id=121033&p=1'In regard to a story making the rounds over the last 24 hours that Impact Wrestling is in negotiations with Alberto el Patron to return to the company, we have been told by several that is incorrect and there have been zero discussion of his return after he no-showed an event for the company over Wrestlemania 34 weekend in New Orleans and was terminated.'
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 21, 2018 12:18:41 GMT -5
Yea, didn't Low Ki last leave Impact because they weren't going to make him champ after they had Alberto give up the belt They had the dude join LAX and all that and then he's just gone Lowki revitalized the X Division, had a great match at Slammiversary with Sonjay, then they put him in the main event scene siding with LAX. Then they wanted him back in the X division, what did they expect. I mean it's so stupid, he was shinning in the X division, they had to screw it up. Na I don’t buy into that. You can’t trust Low Ki so I doubt Impact screwed up anything considering how fast he bolted
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Post by benstudd on Nov 21, 2018 19:19:16 GMT -5
Sure he always does that. But when you deal with a porcepine, you don't go in there bare ass-first. Furthermore the X division was off the hook with him in there, why would you want to screw that up. Him joining LAX was so random. But is it smart to build your division around someone who's just going to f*** off when he loses interest? Moving him into LAX was a move I read as an attempt to bring his credibility to this group that was gaining steam and which they wanted to make a big deal out of, and him joining made decent sense to me given how closely tied to Homicide he's been through his career. If anything, I think trying to bring his heat and credibility to something you want to get off the ground before he has time to splot works a lot better than letting him be the cornerstone of the division just in time for him to bolt. Well I think that group pretty much sucked and I hate rethreads. Not only it was disappointing to me that they were hurting the X division that got good again with Lowki but putting a great talent like him with these bozos what a waste of talent. It so didn't fit to me, almost like the group under Gaborick that Joe was in where they had the masks, the Beatdown Clan? I'm just so tired of all the groups in TNA that you know they are badly planned and will never matter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 23:37:56 GMT -5
Both PWinsider and Observer aswell as a few other sites reported right after BFG that Callis was pushing hard for ADR to return seeing he hasn’t gotten into trouble recently. Can't speak for the observer, but PWinsider outright said it was BS. www.pwinsider.com/article.php?id=121033&p=1'In regard to a story making the rounds over the last 24 hours that Impact Wrestling is in negotiations with Alberto el Patron to return to the company, we have been told by several that is incorrect and there have been zero discussion of his return after he no-showed an event for the company over Wrestlemania 34 weekend in New Orleans and was terminated.' I like how Johnson acts like he wasn’t the person that originally reported that rumor because that’s how I originally heard it but I haven’t heard anything since but that’s not odd because thats usually the cycle with impact on these new sites they briefly talk about it after a ppv and maybe after the next tapings and then nothing else except for viewship loss. This kinda reminds me of when PWinsider reported that Bob Barker was The Huge Guest Host at Mania 27 when The observer site reported it was The Rock then when it was revealed on TV that it was indeed The Rock PWI took that post down and acted like they never reported it.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 23, 2018 3:31:44 GMT -5
I read PWinsider and don't recall ever seeing them claiming ADR was on the verge of re-signing, or even that it was even under consideration, I couldn't find any article saying so by googling them either, all that came up was a denial, and at this point, I suspect the same may be the same with the observer too. There's a cottage industry of wrestling news sites who pull stuff from the air and credit more reputable sources, and people generally accept it as true when it comes to Impact, because people so desperately want LOLTNA fodder. www.sescoops.com/impact-looking-to-bring-alberto-back-ellsworth-turns-down-impact-deal-more/The El Patron rumours seem to have originated at SEScoops, a site which seems to have a reputation for that sort of thing, just making things up and mixing it in with results, actual news lifted from elsewhere and educated guesses like talk of impact doing more of an angle they were already invested in like the undead bride nonsense. Oh look, the Austin Aries loose cannon story people think is a thing originated there too... A link to it was posted here back in the first Aries departure thread and accepted like it came from a major news site. www.sescoops.com/exclusive-details-on-austin-aries-status-with-impact-loose-cannon-angle/I don't dump on wrestling journalists, guys like Meltzer, Alverez, the folks at PWinsider have actual sources and tend to be right enough of the time to get the benefit of the doubt, but SEScoops? Come on.
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