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Post by Hit Girl on May 28, 2019 9:45:30 GMT -5
Andrew McClay was the highlight of that documentary. I loved his enthusiasm.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 29, 2019 0:00:03 GMT -5
Kit Harrington has checked himself into rehab to deal with some personal issues
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 16:06:20 GMT -5
Bumping this thread because I just managed to finish the entire show. Started watching it literally a month ago and for the majority of it, I loved it.
But was anyone else really let down they turned Daenerys bad? Like... that kinda ruined the show for me. My ideal ending would be for her to take the seven kingdoms. Her death sucked too. It all just felt super rushed.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 11, 2019 16:37:17 GMT -5
They submitted the last episode for Emmy consideration for writing. "I know a killer when I see one." LOL, NO.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jun 11, 2019 16:51:52 GMT -5
Bumping this thread because I just managed to finish the entire show. Started watching it literally a month ago and for the majority of it, I loved it. But was anyone else really let down they turned Daenerys bad? Like... that kinda ruined the show for me. My ideal ending would be for her to take the seven kingdoms. Her death sucked too. It all just felt super rushed. The only thing they had time to do in 6 episodes was a schmaltzy happy ending. Sucks to hear for some but it's true. I woulda been ok with a story where Dany turned evil if they actually had the time and writing to build it believably but that's not the scenario they had to work with.
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Post by Cela on Jun 11, 2019 20:10:16 GMT -5
Bumping this thread because I just managed to finish the entire show. Started watching it literally a month ago and for the majority of it, I loved it. But was anyone else really let down they turned Daenerys bad? Like... that kinda ruined the show for me. My ideal ending would be for her to take the seven kingdoms. Her death sucked too. It all just felt super rushed. Yeah, it was a bit rushed. But they have been setting up Dany to be the villain for a long time. Sure, there was a sudden exponential increase in villainy that made Anakin Skywalker look like Walter White. But it was still going there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 20:36:45 GMT -5
Bumping this thread because I just managed to finish the entire show. Started watching it literally a month ago and for the majority of it, I loved it. But was anyone else really let down they turned Daenerys bad? Like... that kinda ruined the show for me. My ideal ending would be for her to take the seven kingdoms. Her death sucked too. It all just felt super rushed. It was horribly rushed and really completely derailed all the build up of her character IMO...if they had 2 or 3 more seasons and focused on actually giving proper motivation and reason other than...oh she is a Targaryan so she is automatically predisposed of going crazy so here she goes crazy at the snap of a finger I personally would have no issues with it. But whatever I will take the booby prize at the end with Drogon going to Volantis with her body (which is where Sam said he was going before being interrupted) to be ressurected by Kinvara.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jun 11, 2019 20:46:05 GMT -5
You have to imagine someone in HBO's scheduling department got a pat on the back for making sure Chernobyl, Gentleman Jack and the Deadwood movie were up to bat after the GoT finale, for that quick "See!! We still make good stuff!" boost.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 11, 2019 21:07:02 GMT -5
They submitted the last episode for Emmy consideration for writing. "I know a killer when I see one." LOL, NO. You'd think that, but the season that won a record number of Emmys for GoT was Season 5. I even think the episode that won for outstanding writing had the infamous "You want a good girl, but need a bad pussy" line.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 11, 2019 22:11:47 GMT -5
Bumping this thread because I just managed to finish the entire show. Started watching it literally a month ago and for the majority of it, I loved it. But was anyone else really let down they turned Daenerys bad? Like... that kinda ruined the show for me. My ideal ending would be for her to take the seven kingdoms. Her death sucked too. It all just felt super rushed. It was definitely rushed, but her becoming the villain made sense, given everything they had established about the threat of insanity in her bloodline, in her case, the insanity had a twisted altrustic nature to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 4:58:13 GMT -5
The problem for me was... Daenerys was a hero literally up until S8E5. Yeah she’s done some bad stuff like burning the Tarleys when they refused to bend the knee... but she gave them a choice. So it was understandable.
She freed the slaves, killed all the masters, she even rescued that witch who ended up killing her baby in Season 2. My point is, Daenerys was never fond of violence or killing people. Remember when she locked the Dragons up because they burned that guys kid?
It’s like they forgot how sickened she was to see those fighting exhibitions back in Slavers Bay. She would never slaughter thousands of innocent people and children. It was completely out of character and I know people are gonna say “Well, she’s a Targaryen... her father was the same” but that’s not a good enough reason in my opinion. It just feels lazy to say that. It’s like her entire character development from the past 7 seasons was thrown out the door for shock value.
It reminds me of Stannis and how he burned his daughter. Stannis would have never done that, it was completely out of character for what we’ve been seeing throughout his entire story... yeah he was desperate but he always showed a fathers protection towards his daughter, unlike her mother who seemingly despised her. But the writers wanted a shocking moment so we got what we got.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jun 12, 2019 5:27:57 GMT -5
The problem for me was... Daenerys was a hero literally up until S8E5. Yeah she’s done some bad stuff like burning the Tarleys when they refused to bend the knee... but she gave them a choice. So it was understandable. She freed the slaves, killed all the masters, she even rescued that witch who ended up killing her baby in Season 2. My point is, Daenerys was never fond of violence or killing people. Remember when she locked the Dragons up because they burned that guys kid? It’s like they forgot how sickened she was to see those fighting exhibitions back in Slavers Bay. She would never slaughter thousands of innocent people and children. It was completely out of character and I know people are gonna say “Well, she’s a Targaryen... her father was the same” but that’s not a good enough reason in my opinion. It just feels lazy to say that. It’s like her entire character development from the past 7 seasons was thrown out the door for shock value. It reminds me of Stannis and how he burned his daughter. Stannis would have never done that, it was completely out of character for what we’ve been seeing throughout his entire story... yeah he was desperate but he always showed a fathers protection towards his daughter, unlike her mother who seemingly despised her. But the writers wanted a shocking moment so we got what we got. There is a way to sell it. A lot of the choices she offers do come down to "join me or die". That's kinda the deal with everything in that world though, but at gives a starting point where the choice becomes more and more unreasonable over her conquest of Westeros, so she turns into a total "with me or against me" character, and takes people not being actively against her enemies and running to join up with her being "against her". There's a great starting point, all her followers are slaves she's freed, it's easier to get people behind you when you've freed them, Westeros is a different society where, though they were under lords, they were free already so it's not so black and whie, she's just another new Lord taking over. But that takes time. And even in that scenario... the city literally surrendered, so they were moving to her side. As it is, they then have Tyrion "both sides" the argument. "Well, we liked it when she burnt slavers who murdered childre..." Well yes, they're f***ing slavers who murdered children!
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 12, 2019 8:51:26 GMT -5
I'm still not over the idea that Grey Worm, having lost his girlfriend and his queen, didn't murder Jon Snow instantly.
And that dumbass Jon snow dropping a dime on himself for killing Dany in the first place.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jun 12, 2019 9:38:16 GMT -5
i REJECT the idea that dany "suddenly turned" .....
look at all her speeches and every single one is the same ..... KILL THEM ALL! that never changed right throughout the entire run and all her supporters EVEN JORAH wasn't that bothered at changing it, otherwise it's the lake of fire for ya!
it was EVERYONE ELSE decrying her overall attitude ..... varys, tyrion ..... jon ..... who were simply protecting THEIR arses
and then the socalled "rushed" nature of the last two seasons ..... well i would put that as two parts to the actual final season ..... was simply done to include the IMPORTANT EVENTS leading to the finale, and not have what would be extenuous sub plots and mini missions that aided characters to be at another place and time!
all the important characters for the end were there in one location for the big fights .....
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 12, 2019 9:47:14 GMT -5
I'm still not over the idea that Grey Worm, having lost his girlfriend and his queen, didn't murder Jon Snow instantly. And that dumbass Jon snow dropping a dime on himself for killing Dany in the first place. Agreed on Grey Worm, but that's classic Jon; doing the right thing and facing the consequences whatever they may be.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 12, 2019 10:31:36 GMT -5
They never should have even brought Missandei with them. She can't fight. She should have stayed in the north until King's Landing was taken. Bringing her along with them would have created a needless distraction for Greyworm.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 13:52:38 GMT -5
i REJECT the idea that dany "suddenly turned" ..... look at all her speeches and every single one is the same ..... KILL THEM ALL! that never changed right throughout the entire run and all her supporters EVEN JORAH wasn't that bothered at changing it, otherwise it's the lake of fire for ya! it was EVERYONE ELSE decrying her overall attitude ..... varys, tyrion ..... jon ..... who were simply protecting THEIR arses and then the socalled "rushed" nature of the last two seasons ..... well i would put that as two parts to the actual final season ..... was simply done to include the IMPORTANT EVENTS leading to the finale, and not have what would be extenuous sub plots and mini missions that aided characters to be at another place and time! all the important characters for the end were there in one location for the big fights ..... But she always gave them a choice. When she burned the Tarleys, she didn’t light everyone else on fire aswell. She already had Kings Landing so it made no sense for her to burn everyone in it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 14:31:33 GMT -5
I said it earlier in the thread
This is where the show ends for me and more specifically where Dany's story ends.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jun 12, 2019 14:38:49 GMT -5
Kings Landing fate was decided when Missandei's head got lopped off, Danys reaction was all i needed to know that! and all her speeches wouldn't mean a thing after that ..... she saw Cersei WINNING due to the simple fact that she was SURRENDERING to her and Jon and Danaerys didn't like that!
and she already had a giant army with the Unsullied and what was left of the Dothraki, Winterfells forces ..... oh and a big bloody dragon too, who'd destroyed the Golden Company and made mincemeat of the scorpions threat!
she saw Cersei do the unthinkable, and Cersei would have proclaimed that to the sky, simply giving the prize to dany would have been completely acceptable to Cersei, that and her realisation that she was TRULY ALONE in all this no matter who was beside her ..... and with no Jorah to guide her properly her paranoia started to grow .....
the whole thing was utterly inevitable
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 12, 2019 16:59:55 GMT -5
i REJECT the idea that dany "suddenly turned" ..... look at all her speeches and every single one is the same ..... KILL THEM ALL! that never changed right throughout the entire run and all her supporters EVEN JORAH wasn't that bothered at changing it, otherwise it's the lake of fire for ya! it was EVERYONE ELSE decrying her overall attitude ..... varys, tyrion ..... jon ..... who were simply protecting THEIR arses and then the socalled "rushed" nature of the last two seasons ..... well i would put that as two parts to the actual final season ..... was simply done to include the IMPORTANT EVENTS leading to the finale, and not have what would be extenuous sub plots and mini missions that aided characters to be at another place and time! all the important characters for the end were there in one location for the big fights ..... But she always gave them a choice. When she burned the Tarleys, she didn’t light everyone else on fire aswell. She already had Kings Landing so it made no sense for her to burn everyone in it. Still had a foreboding undertone to it. Part of her father's insanity was a fetish for burning people alive.
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