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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 17, 2018 1:24:44 GMT -5
I really dig it, great stuff from all the ladies involved. Really proving their worth as leaders in the division. But man, I really hope Raw’s Women title can have good, long, main event worthy matches again. Nothing against Ronda, but for this past year all the Raw Women’s title matches involve average to shit wrestlers. Or if they can wrestle, they talk like weird automotrons. Like damn I cannot another slow ass Nia Jax match or a small woman dominates a 6 foot tall women Alexa match. I'm not a Nia fan especially after the Becky incident but I'll give the devil her due and say that both of her matches with Ronda were pretty good. They have pretty good chemistry with one another. Problem is they don't really have any else she can work with on Raw which is why they're switching gears to having her feuding with Becky and Charlotte. Looking at the other heels on Raw Ruby Riott I thought would've been a good feud for her with her using strength in numbers to overwhelm Ronda but instead they did a one off match on Raw and then Ruby lost her feud with Natalya so that seems out of the question now. Even though she's super stale Natalya would've been a good opponent in ring wise but they had to scrap plans of her heel turn due to her father passing away. I know people will say heel turned Sasha but as talented as she is I don't see her being a good opponent for Ronda. While very talented I'd have a tough time buying her working over and beating down Ronda as her style lacks physicality and from a size standpoint she's no more of a threat physically then even Alexa was as she's less powerfully built then Bliss despite being a bit taller.
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Post by Fade on Dec 17, 2018 1:26:16 GMT -5
It was alright. Definitely felt like the main event. And they definitely beat the shit out of each other. Part of me kept wishing it was the three in a regular match.
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Post by MAGGLE on Dec 17, 2018 1:31:22 GMT -5
I think the start of the match was kinda awkward (first 5mins) but after that they kinda figured it out. The planned spots were also great. I am happy for Asuka, but it kinda sucks that Lynch didn´t even get a chance to proof herself. Kayfabe wise she just kept talking and never delivered. It´s a problem tbh.
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Post by schma on Dec 17, 2018 1:33:35 GMT -5
I think the start of the match was kinda awkward (first 5mins) but after that they kinda figured it out. The planned spots were also great. I am happy for Asuka, but it kinda sucks that Lynch didn´t even get a chance to proof herself. Kayfabe wise she just kept talking and never delivered. It´s a problem tbh. She proved herself against Charlotte and earlier this year she went through almost all the Smackdown roster. I'd say she's done a lot more than talk.
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Post by MAGGLE on Dec 17, 2018 1:40:24 GMT -5
I think the start of the match was kinda awkward (first 5mins) but after that they kinda figured it out. The planned spots were also great. I am happy for Asuka, but it kinda sucks that Lynch didn´t even get a chance to proof herself. Kayfabe wise she just kept talking and never delivered. It´s a problem tbh. She proved herself against Charlotte and earlier this year she went through almost all the Smackdown roster. I'd say she's done a lot more than talk. Yeah but I am talking about the talk after the concussion. Every commentator and wrestler just keeps telling her "you have not proved yourself yet". And then she lost. Looks kinda bad too me. Don´t get me wrong you can´t win every match. But I wouldn´t let someone lose in their FIRST match after breaking through the glass ceiling.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 17, 2018 2:02:03 GMT -5
I loved this so much.
I loved that Becky attacked Nia earlier in the night, making you subconsciously think that Nia was going to interfere in the match...
...only for it to be a red herring and RONDA interferes!
And the Ronda interference makes sense from her unresolved issues with both women over the past month.
And with all Asuka did in the match, it didn't look like a fluke win for her either. She still absolutely earned it and looked like a champ. It's amazing how hot again they managed to get her in just a month when so many had written her off.
Even the table spot, I love that Asuka got away but Charlotte didn't. I can't off-hand think of seeing that in a three-way match any other time.
Thrilled with the match!
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Post by Abdullah on Dec 17, 2018 2:42:23 GMT -5
I like the Last Woman Standing match a little more but that was easily four stars.
I’m worried that Becky moves to RAW now. Or even Charlotte.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Dec 17, 2018 2:54:03 GMT -5
I like the Last Woman Standing match a little more but that was easily four stars. I’m worried that Becky moves to RAW now. Or even Charlotte. Please let it be Charlotte. Becky is ace on SD and I'd hate to see her sink in the shit pile that is RAW.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 17, 2018 5:17:51 GMT -5
I remember at the beginning of the year, a lot of folks were saying a women's match would headline Mania "Just because...say they did it...historic...Steph...Ronda"
That match was the culmination of a year where the women consistently delivered over the men's roster and they goddamn earned and deserve that main event.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 17, 2018 6:30:20 GMT -5
Charlotte's been my favourite worker in the division for at least two years now, I really think she's the closest to an all-around total package they have. Becky is on fire right now, with her persona matching the in-ring ability she already had. And after a fallow time of it post-WrestleMania, Asuka seems energized with this opportunity again.
It was fantastic. And that the women's division has at least four legit main event level stars, and another three or four that are just outside and with more en route from NXT, it genuinely is the best shape women's wrestling has been in the WWF/E probably...forever.
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Post by Z-A Sandbaggin' Son of a b!%@h on Dec 17, 2018 6:42:05 GMT -5
How does Charlotte not have every rib in her body broken after that announce table spot. Becky f***ing bounced.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 17, 2018 7:10:22 GMT -5
All were superb but Charlotte was an absolute badass. There were some brutal bumps in there. Sometimes I think her super push and WWE's obvious favouritism for her blinds people to how good she actually is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 7:11:48 GMT -5
All were superb but Charlotte was an absolute badass. There were some brutal bumps in there. Sometimes I think her super push and WWE's obvious favouritism for her blinds people to how good she actually is. Honestly I really wouldn't even consider myself a Charlotte fan most of the time and I'll still readily grant she was absolutely amazing in that match.
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Post by grunt on Dec 17, 2018 9:14:22 GMT -5
I really liked the match, and kudos to all involved, but somehow, Charlotte's (no) selling bothered me every now and then : I don't know if it was due to time issues or the way the match was laid out not letting the narrative breath, or if it was just Charlotte being too into her beast mode character, but it bothered me to see her get back into the action so quickly, and being 100%, after various bumps or beatings that would have put any male wrestler down for at least a few minutes.
It felt to me the match was (deliberately) intended as a Charlotte showcase (the commentary clearly seemed to indicate she was supposed to be seen as the star of the bout), with Becky just below, and Asuka as an afterthought (match result excluded, obv).
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Post by stevec484 on Dec 17, 2018 10:23:27 GMT -5
It was OK, I really didn't think it was all that great. A good amount of botches. Good, logical ending that benefited everyone involved though.
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Post by theironyuppie on Dec 17, 2018 10:49:27 GMT -5
That match was pretty amazing, and completely deserving of the main event. Charlotte's performance was a reminder of why she gets the opportunities she does, because she helps elevate matches (save Asuka tossing Becky onto a ladder, she was involved in almost every one of the matches' big bumps)--she's been on a real hot streak of late, with her matches at Evolution, Survivor Series and TLC being one of the better three-PPV-runs in recent memory.
I also give a lot of credit to her and Asuka for wrestling a great counter-filled match on SDL last week, and then reusing virtually none of the spots except the Codebreaker spear counter.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 17, 2018 11:20:32 GMT -5
Asuka and Becky were incredible, and Charlotte's offense was insane. That girl does need to learn to sell, though.
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 17, 2018 11:47:31 GMT -5
She proved herself against Charlotte and earlier this year she went through almost all the Smackdown roster. I'd say she's done a lot more than talk. Yeah but I am talking about the talk after the concussion. Every commentator and wrestler just keeps telling her "you have not proved yourself yet". And then she lost. Looks kinda bad too me. Don´t get me wrong you can´t win every match. But I wouldn´t let someone lose in their FIRST match after breaking through the glass ceiling. o be fair though it wasn't as much as becky came out and lost clean, as the becky ladder match curse kicking in again where someone interferes who isn't in the match and costs her the win. plus someone had to lose the title if becky/ronda collide at mania via becky rumble win and it wasn't going to be ronda. "lose the title while not getting pinned/submitted in a triple threat due to a rival's interference" is the best way to do this without hurting becky's momentum.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 17, 2018 11:53:53 GMT -5
Is Charlotte really okay?Saw a clip of that spot.Freaking brutal. Got me legit scared for her
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Post by salz4life on Dec 17, 2018 12:00:27 GMT -5
All the women's storylines have me interested. I can't think of a men's storyline that I really care about. Maybe Daniel Bryan/AJ? ALL the women should be proud of what they've accomplished over the past 12-18 months.
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