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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 5, 2019 13:57:42 GMT -5
Besides the money, probably solidifying his legacy to as many eyes as possible. I think someone mentioned how during Angle and Stings TNA days people were like “it’s a waste. They should be in WWE”. And. Well. They were right.
But Kenny’s already become such a big name through New Japan, BTE, and the indies that I feel the smarter move would be to keep dicking around in New Japan/AEW/ROH, whatever, and wait till your early 40s to go to the ‘E, like AJ. He won’t have to go at breakneck speed in WWE regardless if he joins now or 5 years from now. They’ll want him to hone in his product for TV and that kind of schedule.
And the crazy thing, with the FOX thing impending, I don’t think it’s batshit crazy to suggest WWE could use Kenny more than he could use them. And that’s an insane position for a wrestler to be in in 2018.
I’m happy for him either way, TBH. If he joins the ‘E, more eyes on him, rake in the dough. And if he doesn’t, the next few years will probably be the best of his career on top of an already crazy few years. It’s win-win for Kenny and his fans, honestly.
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Post by BatPunk on Jan 5, 2019 13:58:56 GMT -5
The only way I want to see Omega join the WWE is if Braun is “attacked” pre show and can’t take on Lesnar at The Rumble and Omega is a surprise to take his place and beats Brock for the title on debut.
Otherwise, I would rather Kenny stay with NJPW.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 5, 2019 14:18:13 GMT -5
For me, as a fan, I just don't see the allure of him being in WWE. Don't get me wrong, if they're offering him stupid money then I wouldn't blame him for signing, but just as a fan what would WWE do with him that would be particularly interesting? I mean, AJ went to WWE and became a very well paid main eventer, that's great, but thanks to WWE's typical booking so many of his feuds have been pretty big disappointments (Owens, Nakamura, Joe) and WWE's usual main event match layout and psychology just falls pretty flat for me most of the time (e.g. AJ vs. John Cena). The Lesnar and Bryan matches were excellent, but I think it says something when the guys who tend to have the most interesting matches tend to be the guys who are wholly in a position to tell WWE to go screw if they can't go and do some of the stuff they want to do in a match. Again, I totally get it if Kenny feels he can't turn down an absurd contract offer, but outside of the "hey, it'd be cool for Kenny to walk out to a full football stadium for a Mania match" sight I don't see what there'd be to get very excited about. As a fan, there’s much more for him to do in WWE than New Japan or AEW. Way more fresh matchups with Bryan, Styles, Joe, Rollins, Balor, Nakamura, Reigns, Orton, Cena, and on and on. I’d 1000% prefer him to make the jump.
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Post by sportatorium on Jan 5, 2019 14:23:23 GMT -5
Conspicuously absent from New Year’s Dash. Jericho too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 14:28:33 GMT -5
I can see the benefit of all three options, though I think AEW is by far the worst option of the three.
Personally I’d love to see him in WWE against guys like AJ, Bryan, and Rollins, but that’s just me. Hopefully he makes a decision he can live with.
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Post by abjordans on Jan 5, 2019 14:31:47 GMT -5
Here is all I know. WK13 definitely seemed like he was written off. If he came in after his contract is up in January, he could definitely slide right into a main event level program with Bryan or Styles that people would pay to see for Mania. That is an almost assuredly 7 figure pay day out the gate on top of the crazy salary he is offered. It would be hard to say no to that in my opinion.
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Post by Chiral on Jan 5, 2019 15:00:28 GMT -5
For me, as a fan, I just don't see the allure of him being in WWE. Don't get me wrong, if they're offering him stupid money then I wouldn't blame him for signing, but just as a fan what would WWE do with him that would be particularly interesting? I mean, AJ went to WWE and became a very well paid main eventer, that's great, but thanks to WWE's typical booking so many of his feuds have been pretty big disappointments (Owens, Nakamura, Joe) and WWE's usual main event match layout and psychology just falls pretty flat for me most of the time (e.g. AJ vs. John Cena). The Lesnar and Bryan matches were excellent, but I think it says something when the guys who tend to have the most interesting matches tend to be the guys who are wholly in a position to tell WWE to go screw if they can't go and do some of the stuff they want to do in a match. Again, I totally get it if Kenny feels he can't turn down an absurd contract offer, but outside of the "hey, it'd be cool for Kenny to walk out to a full football stadium for a Mania match" sight I don't see what there'd be to get very excited about. Agreed. Even with a huge contract I can't see WWE booking him well. They can barely push the people they WANT to succeed, and even with AJ he didn't get a push out of the gate, they wouldn't immediately make Omega "The Guy" or give him the Rumble or the title, I just see them repeating AJ's early run and giving him a medium-ish length WM match against a veteran that he loses. And even if he got a big AJ-esque push after that like you said, a lot of AJ's big matches and storylines have been pretty lackluster outside of Bryan and Lesnar.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 5, 2019 15:41:39 GMT -5
For me, as a fan, I just don't see the allure of him being in WWE. Don't get me wrong, if they're offering him stupid money then I wouldn't blame him for signing, but just as a fan what would WWE do with him that would be particularly interesting? I mean, AJ went to WWE and became a very well paid main eventer, that's great, but thanks to WWE's typical booking so many of his feuds have been pretty big disappointments (Owens, Nakamura, Joe) and WWE's usual main event match layout and psychology just falls pretty flat for me most of the time (e.g. AJ vs. John Cena). The Lesnar and Bryan matches were excellent, but I think it says something when the guys who tend to have the most interesting matches tend to be the guys who are wholly in a position to tell WWE to go screw if they can't go and do some of the stuff they want to do in a match. Again, I totally get it if Kenny feels he can't turn down an absurd contract offer, but outside of the "hey, it'd be cool for Kenny to walk out to a full football stadium for a Mania match" sight I don't see what there'd be to get very excited about. As a fan, there’s much more for him to do in WWE than New Japan or AEW. Way more fresh matchups with Bryan, Styles, Joe, Rollins, Balor, Nakamura, Reigns, Orton, Cena, and on and on. I’d 1000% prefer him to make the jump. There are certainly interesting names, no doubt, but I guess for me I just don't see the allure. I love Joe, I love Bryan, I love Nakamura...I just can't begin to care about >90% of their WWE matches and feuds due to the promotion's lack of care in putting its booking and character work together and its lack of interest in psychology and in-ring storytelling. Like, if Kenny had a face off with Seth Rollins in the middle of a Rumble match or something it'd be a markout moment, but I have no faith in WWE to do anything compelling with it after that moment (though I'm sure a Mania match between the two would include at least one "oh my GOD!" moment). I'd honestly have greater faith in NJPW doing something more interesting with Kenny in matches or feuds with people he's already gone up against in the past, since it has a history of using past storylines to inform newer angles thus allowing, say, Tanahashi vs. Omega from 2016 to feel totally different than Tanahashi vs. Omega from yesterday, for example. Plus, while WWE certainly still has the most eyes on it compared with any other major wrestling companies, the general waning of its popularity would feel like a let down compared with Omega's work the past couple of years in promotions that are on the rise. Again, I do emphasize that this isn't what Kenny should be thinking about when it comes to his future choices: dude has a right to make as much money or work whatever schedule he wants. But yeah, as a fan it'd bum me out.
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Post by eJm on Jan 5, 2019 15:42:02 GMT -5
For me, as a fan, I just don't see the allure of him being in WWE. Don't get me wrong, if they're offering him stupid money then I wouldn't blame him for signing, but just as a fan what would WWE do with him that would be particularly interesting? I mean, AJ went to WWE and became a very well paid main eventer, that's great, but thanks to WWE's typical booking so many of his feuds have been pretty big disappointments (Owens, Nakamura, Joe) and WWE's usual main event match layout and psychology just falls pretty flat for me most of the time (e.g. AJ vs. John Cena). The Lesnar and Bryan matches were excellent, but I think it says something when the guys who tend to have the most interesting matches tend to be the guys who are wholly in a position to tell WWE to go screw if they can't go and do some of the stuff they want to do in a match. Again, I totally get it if Kenny feels he can't turn down an absurd contract offer, but outside of the "hey, it'd be cool for Kenny to walk out to a full football stadium for a Mania match" sight I don't see what there'd be to get very excited about. Agreed. Even with a huge contract I can't see WWE booking him well. They can barely push the people they WANT to succeed, and even with AJ he didn't get a push out of the gate, they wouldn't immediately make Omega "The Guy" or give him the Rumble or the title, I just see them repeating AJ's early run and giving him a medium-ish length WM match against a veteran that he loses. And even if he got a big AJ-esque push after that like you said, a lot of AJ's big matches and storylines have been pretty lackluster outside of Bryan and Lesnar. What I will say to this is that WWE wouldn’t be paying someone $3.5m to toil in the midcard or have a slow start. Even AJ was put in a feud with Jericho from the offset rather than facing a Mojo Rawley or someone like that. Heck, AJ’s success probably makes them realise that people of that caliber can make hell of a lot of money really damn quickly.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 5, 2019 15:56:02 GMT -5
Agreed. Even with a huge contract I can't see WWE booking him well. They can barely push the people they WANT to succeed, and even with AJ he didn't get a push out of the gate, they wouldn't immediately make Omega "The Guy" or give him the Rumble or the title, I just see them repeating AJ's early run and giving him a medium-ish length WM match against a veteran that he loses. And even if he got a big AJ-esque push after that like you said, a lot of AJ's big matches and storylines have been pretty lackluster outside of Bryan and Lesnar. What I will say to this is that WWE wouldn’t be paying someone $3.5m to toil in the midcard or have a slow start. Even AJ was put in a feud with Jericho from the offset rather than facing a Mojo Rawley or someone like that. Heck, AJ’s success probably makes them realise that people of that caliber can make hell of a lot of money really damn quickly. Agreed on that; if Kenny's going over there, he's hitting the ground running, period. I just don't want to see it happen.
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Post by eJm on Jan 5, 2019 15:56:32 GMT -5
What I will say to this is that WWE wouldn’t be paying someone $3.5m to toil in the midcard or have a slow start. Even AJ was put in a feud with Jericho from the offset rather than facing a Mojo Rawley or someone like that. Heck, AJ’s success probably makes them realise that people of that caliber can make hell of a lot of money really damn quickly. Agreed on that; if Kenny's going over there, he's hitting the ground running, period. I just don't want to see it happen. I’m conflicted on it myself so that’s completely fair.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 5, 2019 16:03:33 GMT -5
What I will say to this is that WWE wouldn’t be paying someone $3.5m to toil in the midcard or have a slow start. Even AJ was put in a feud with Jericho from the offset rather than facing a Mojo Rawley or someone like that. Heck, AJ’s success probably makes them realise that people of that caliber can make hell of a lot of money really damn quickly. Agreed on that; if Kenny's going over there, he's hitting the ground running, period. I just don't want to see it happen. I have mixed feelings, for sure. I can't help but feel like the timing is good for him to do it, given he doesn't have really any loose ends to tie up in NJPW, but it's also a huge risk in terms of, if he wants back, I wonder how much of a grudge NJPW would hold if he leaves. If he stays, though, what's next but down? Obviously, it's not like Okada and the like are languishing, but I don't really know what feuds or big matches they'd have for him, whereas if he left for a few years and came back if he wasn't fulfilled, there'd be a fresh canvas to work with.
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Post by Mike Strike on Jan 5, 2019 16:17:46 GMT -5
After seeing a clip of his final NKPW entrance, I speculate he'll debut to a cover of Megalovania.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jan 5, 2019 16:23:43 GMT -5
I want him to come to WWE, because as mentioned you’re not paying a dude that much money to not be an instant star.
Do I think he will though? Probably not. I’d put my hypothetical dollars on his buddies in AEW.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 5, 2019 17:21:36 GMT -5
Here’s what it comes down to for me:
I know his friends are running the promotion, but AEW is only viable if Omega can continue working for NJPW while there. AEW needs Omega a lot more than he needs it.
Who is he going to wrestle? Who are the top guys he can feud with or work with on a regular basis? We’ve already seen Kenny vs. Cody and that feud was lengthy. You can’t go back to that well again.
Barring a working relationship with New Japan, I just don’t think it’s feasible.
As for WWE, he knows exactly what he’d be getting into - the match quality that he expects from himself will be down and a lot of the booking won’t be very good. That said, he’ll be making a crap ton of money and working in front of the largest audience he’s ever worked in front of before. And it’s not like he won’t have good matches because there are a ton of talented guys he can work with and there are friends of his in the company.
If I had to guess, I think he stays in NJPW, but if he were ever to go to WWE, it’d be now.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 5, 2019 17:24:03 GMT -5
He'll be in the rumble.
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Post by eJm on Jan 5, 2019 17:34:31 GMT -5
Considering the contact ends January 31st, he absolutely won’t be.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 5, 2019 17:54:41 GMT -5
Considering the contact ends January 31st, he absolutely won’t be. THATS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK! But seriously, I heard, "later this month" and the actual date. so I thought that gave him some time to appear at the rumble
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 5, 2019 18:08:45 GMT -5
Considering the contact ends January 31st, he absolutely won’t be. THATS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK! But seriously, I heard, "later this month" and the actual date. so I thought that gave him some time to appear at the rumble I can’t remember where I read it or how reliable the report was, but I read that he has an out on January 15.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 5, 2019 18:13:50 GMT -5
If he does go to WWE, it occurs to me that the finisher situation is going to be a little tricky. He's going to have a bitch of a time doing the One Winged Angel to a lot of guys.
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