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Post by wildojinx on Jan 11, 2019 22:32:57 GMT -5
Okerlund was still doing interviews at Summerslam 93.
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Post by evilone on Jan 12, 2019 10:12:29 GMT -5
From a mature point of view with "fan" portion removed from your heart the healthiest and the best wrestling period ever in the wrestling industry is what WWE is doing today. Everyone is making good money and have good benefits, from production crew to whole roster. Sole reason why that is the case today is WCW from 20 years ago, it took WWE over a decade after WCW folded to catch up to it's standards and practices and surpass them but we are finally there.
You could argue that the greatest wrestling period was late 80's boom and you would be right from the fan perspective, but from business perspective only very few were able to make good money while others, many main eventer included, were making nothing substantial. It was not until mid 90s WCW that every single superstar from WWF boom period has made their greatest paycheck in their life. That lists includes WWF originals superstars like Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Ultimate Warrior and Bret Hart while Okerlund and Heenan were superstars from other side of the spectrum that also made their fortune in WCW. Bottom line WCW has covered everyone on the roster with a very good paycheck and benefits and today WWE would be a lot different place had WCW never happened.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 12, 2019 12:24:12 GMT -5
Vince - "Gene, I want you to start using UNBELIEEEEVABLE as a buzzword!"
Gene - "No"
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Post by corndog on Jan 12, 2019 13:07:03 GMT -5
From a mature point of view with "fan" portion removed from your heart the healthiest and the best wrestling period ever in the wrestling industry is what WWE is doing today. Everyone is making good money and have good benefits, from production crew to whole roster. Sole reason why that is the case today is WCW from 20 years ago, it took WWE over a decade after WCW folded to catch up to it's standards and practices and surpass them but we are finally there. You could argue that the greatest wrestling period was late 80's boom and you would be right from the fan perspective, but from business perspective only very few were able to make good money while others, many main eventer included, were making nothing substantial. It was not until mid 90s WCW that every single superstar from WWF boom period has made their greatest paycheck in their life. That lists includes WWF originals superstars like Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Ultimate Warrior and Bret Hart while Okerlund and Heenan were superstars from other side of the spectrum that also made their fortune in WCW. Bottom line WCW has covered everyone on the roster with a very good paycheck and benefits and today WWE would be a lot different place had WCW never happened. In Bret's book he said that pay in the 80's WWF was really good because the shows were drawing well. What WCW changed was the guaranteed pay. In the 90s, WWF was not drawing well, so pay was pretty bad and you lived/died on your WrestleMania payoff. WCW offered guaranteed money, instead of depending on the house draws, which is why so many people jumped. Now WWE has gone to guaranteed pay as well. But there are no benefits. No one gets health insurance or retirement in WWE. Supposedly AEW is going to offer health insurance, which would change the game.
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Post by fg on Jan 12, 2019 18:28:20 GMT -5
I was wondering the other day about Gene's exit from WWF. Did they acknowledge it on air or give him any send off? Nope. As I recall, he was doing the updates on Raw hyping WrestleMania IX and then he was just gone. The magazine did do a short article saying that he was gone.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball☝🏻 on Jan 12, 2019 18:33:19 GMT -5
I was wondering the other day about Gene's exit from WWF. Did they acknowledge it on air or give him any send off? Nope. As I recall, he was doing the updates on Raw hyping WrestleMania IX and then he was just gone. Yeah Okerlund was still quite involved in Mania 9. Did all the backstage stuff he always did.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 12, 2019 18:49:22 GMT -5
Sensational Sherri and Ted Dibiase also left around the same time Gene did and WWF Magazine did a send off in the back pages. I think Sherri and Ted were one month and Gene was either the month before or after. As a regular subscriber, I think that was one of the few times they did such a thing.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 13, 2019 12:16:17 GMT -5
From a mature point of view with "fan" portion removed from your heart the healthiest and the best wrestling period ever in the wrestling industry is what WWE is doing today. Everyone is making good money and have good benefits, from production crew to whole roster. Sole reason why that is the case today is WCW from 20 years ago, it took WWE over a decade after WCW folded to catch up to it's standards and practices and surpass them but we are finally there. You could argue that the greatest wrestling period was late 80's boom and you would be right from the fan perspective, but from business perspective only very few were able to make good money while others, many main eventer included, were making nothing substantial. It was not until mid 90s WCW that every single superstar from WWF boom period has made their greatest paycheck in their life. That lists includes WWF originals superstars like Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Ultimate Warrior and Bret Hart while Okerlund and Heenan were superstars from other side of the spectrum that also made their fortune in WCW. Bottom line WCW has covered everyone on the roster with a very good paycheck and benefits and today WWE would be a lot different place had WCW never happened. In Bret's book he said that pay in the 80's WWF was really good because the shows were drawing well. What WCW changed was the guaranteed pay. In the 90s, WWF was not drawing well, so pay was pretty bad and you lived/died on your WrestleMania payoff. WCW offered guaranteed money, instead of depending on the house draws, which is why so many people jumped. Now WWE has gone to guaranteed pay as well. But there are no benefits. No one gets health insurance or retirement in WWE. Supposedly AEW is going to offer health insurance, which would change the game. If AEW can offer health insurance and keep its head above water, it could change not just wresting, but professional sports.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 13, 2019 12:40:10 GMT -5
In Bret's book he said that pay in the 80's WWF was really good because the shows were drawing well. What WCW changed was the guaranteed pay. In the 90s, WWF was not drawing well, so pay was pretty bad and you lived/died on your WrestleMania payoff. WCW offered guaranteed money, instead of depending on the house draws, which is why so many people jumped. Now WWE has gone to guaranteed pay as well. But there are no benefits. No one gets health insurance or retirement in WWE. Supposedly AEW is going to offer health insurance, which would change the game. If AEW can offer health insurance and keep its head above water, it could change not just wresting, but professional sports. AEW is only giving health insurance to those in executive “real job” positions, not to the regular wrestlers.
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Post by corndog on Jan 13, 2019 12:57:51 GMT -5
If AEW can offer health insurance and keep its head above water, it could change not just wresting, but professional sports. AEW is only giving health insurance to those in executive “real job” positions, not to the regular wrestlers. I thought AEW was offering health insurance to full time wrestlers, but I could be wrong. WWE gives benefits to office positions and non-wrestlers.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 13, 2019 15:15:32 GMT -5
AEW is only giving health insurance to those in executive “real job” positions, not to the regular wrestlers. I thought AEW was offering health insurance to full time wrestlers, but I could be wrong. WWE gives benefits to office positions and non-wrestlers. Full-time employees and those wrestlers holding full-time executive positions like the Bucks and Cody. Not the wrestlers, they’ll still be independent contractors. They will cover in-ring injuries, like WWE does. Essentially the same system as WWE has.
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Post by Main Event Mark on Jan 13, 2019 18:33:03 GMT -5
Sensational Sherri and Ted Dibiase also left around the same time Gene did and WWF Magazine did a send off in the back pages. I think Sherri and Ted were one month and Gene was either the month before or after. As a regular subscriber, I think that was one of the few times they did such a thing. I still have a pile of old WWF mags from that period. I'll have to dig them out and have a look.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 8:32:28 GMT -5
I was wondering the other day about Gene's exit from WWF. Did they acknowledge it on air or give him any send off? Don't believe so. If there was a place it happened it would've been on All American Wrestling, the Sunday morning USA show. But all I recall is that Joe Fowler (wow how'd I remember that name) replaced him there with little/no mention. (EDIT: or in WWF Magazine, as mentioned above....wish my memory was better..) Mean Gene's last in-ring appearance, IIRC, was a segment just before Summerslam '93, when he was interviewing Yokozuna & Co. on a weekend show (prolly Superstars) and all the faces on the roster came out through the crowd waving American flags. Gene was around for maybe the first 2 or 3 Survivor Series '93 hype segments, which started in September or so, then was replaced by Gorilla Monsoon.
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