kidkamikaze10
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 13, 2019 5:23:12 GMT -5
Easily ADR.
Women wise... Bliss or Mella.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 13, 2019 6:18:01 GMT -5
Since you worded it as most unimpressive WRESTLER I would have to say Bliss. While there's definitely been worse women wrestlers in ring I would say she's about as unimpressive you can get as she really hasn't had any great matches that I can think of despite having plenty of opportunities to do so, has a weak moveset, can't bump well, and is super unbelievable as this dominant wrestler they push her as. Despite this she has pretty much given everything winning both titles on countless occasions, winning the first Women's Elimination Chamber, and winning Money in the Bank last year. Don't get me wrong she has plenty other things going for in that she's a good talker, has good charisma, and is pretty over however with her limitations in ring it is kind of ridiculous how much she's been given in such a short time.
If you were to say most unimpressive performer then I would say Del Rio. Other then workrate the guy really brought nothing to the table as he was an average talker at best and a total charisma vacuum. On top of that he was hard to deal with behind the scenes. Yet they still would push him and give him countless accomplishments and opportunities. Sans his first year and his short lived face run the guy was continuously such a bore.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jan 13, 2019 6:20:41 GMT -5
Triple H immediately came to mind.
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 13, 2019 7:32:42 GMT -5
I don't know, to me, "unimpressive" means shit in ring. And I get that plenty of people apparently think that Charlotte is garbage in the ring, but I don't think that. Yeah, and by that metric and a few others I've seen in this thread, HHH should nowhere near this list. Like, seriously guys, I know he's polarizing but to suggest he's the most unimpressive is silly.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 13, 2019 8:16:20 GMT -5
Alberto Del Rio. Dude was over at times buy it was always very brief and they just kept putting things on him even though nobody cared. At least Roman got people talking and got a reaction, even if it was the wrong one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 9:51:32 GMT -5
If we're going by wrestling talent, then as much as I love her, Alexa qualifies. She's underrated in-ring IMO but still doesn't have any real standout matches to her name, and has a laundry list of accomplishments in spite of that.
If we're going by crowd reactions, then Swagger and Del Rio, who were very over at specific points but for the most part never consistently got above "ehhh" in terms of crowd support/heat. And of course Charlotte, who's had nearly four years of getting pushed as the GOAT and is only now getting the crowd to care about her, while still being nowhere near as over as Becky, Sasha, and Bayley at their peaks.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 13, 2019 10:00:19 GMT -5
Brock. f***ing. Lesnar.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 13, 2019 10:42:07 GMT -5
I gotta go with Sheamus. At least Del Rio passed the initial "Could this guy get a push?" impression. I actually quite liked Del Rio's initial stuff, it was just when they stripped away all of his shtick that was working (the cool cars, Ricardo) that he became a bore. Sheamus to me has never been anything resembling a top guy. Imagine any other era where anyone would have even considered putting a world title on this guy. Maybe Gagne would have in the AWA if Sheamus gave him the 50 grand but that is about it. But Sheamus, who has never been top guy level over, has been a multi time world champion, KOTR winner, Rumble winner, MITB winner, multi time tag champ, you name it. But does anyone care?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 13, 2019 10:54:22 GMT -5
It's Triple H. He deserved all his accomplishments pre-2002 were completely deserved but he's been propped up by accolades ever since. His wrestling and promos have been fine since but very rarely exceptional for how often he's been featured.
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Jan 13, 2019 11:20:24 GMT -5
Not exactly a kayfabe "accomplishment" but it kills me how Triple H will put someone "over" at a Wrestlemania, then be higher up than them on next year's Wrestlemania card. That means they are under! Your loss meant nothing!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 11:48:05 GMT -5
Randy Orton
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Post by Rave on Jan 13, 2019 12:09:47 GMT -5
With all the accolades they piled on Reigns in seemingly such a short amount of time, I'm surprised he's not been brought up more here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 12:30:22 GMT -5
With all the accolades they piled on Reigns in seemingly such a short amount of time, I'm surprised he's not been brought up more here. I was going to say something similar. People are being 'nicer' because of his health issues. He'd have been mentioned a lot more a few months ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 12:34:03 GMT -5
I gotta go with Sheamus. At least Del Rio passed the initial "Could this guy get a push?" impression. I actually quite liked Del Rio's initial stuff, it was just when they stripped away all of his shtick that was working (the cool cars, Ricardo) that he became a bore. Sheamus to me has never been anything resembling a top guy. Imagine any other era where anyone would have even considered putting a world title on this guy. Maybe Gagne would have in the AWA if Sheamus gave him the 50 grand but that is about it. But Sheamus, who has never been top guy level over, has been a multi time world champion, KOTR winner, Rumble winner, MITB winner, multi time tag champ, you name it. But does anyone care? They really wanted Sheamus to be 'the guy' before they fell for Roman. I give them credit for trying different things with him, unlike Roman's never ending super-ultra babyface act, but yeah, he never really felt like a legit, long-term main event guy.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 13, 2019 12:37:48 GMT -5
Alexa all day, every day, twice on Sundays. Wrestles like a holdover from the early days of the Divas, has the same generic mean girl act that was a staple of those days as well, and booked like a woman a foot taller and 100lbs heavier.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 13, 2019 12:41:22 GMT -5
I'm trying to remember a time when Del Rio was over and all I can think of was his brief stint in ROH... where Jay Lethal was still getting better reactions despite being the heel in that feud. Swagger? He actually was getting decent pops towards the end of his run if I remember right. Sheamus? I'm biased so I can't answer that. Charlotte? Yes, it's frustrating but people give a damn about her when she shows up. Roman? [somewhatsensible!Richlen]I'm biased but even if I wasn't he's still way better than Del Rio on a lot of fronts anyway. [RomanEmpire!Richlen]HOW DARE YOU. Triple H? The Booker T feud aside, it's hard for me to disagree with the choices of who he went over, plus he did end up putting over Benoit (even with hindsight involved) and Batista, both of whom needed it way more that Trips at that point anyway. Orton? When he's actually able to give two shits, he is ON. Only person who'd be worse is Shelton Benjamin, who is perhaps THE single most boring wrestler I have ever seen, but he doesn't have half of what Del Rio was given and he's not a human toxin so he gets a free pass. WWE missed a golden opportunity with Swagger. He was getting no reactions, but when he started his, “We the People!” Schtick people would always respond and say that along with him. So boil him down to just doing that and keep his matches brief for a starting point. After a while have his matches go longer and find a feud that fits for him where he could become the face and benefit from that crowd reaction. It worked for Sgt. Slaughter in the 1980s and is one of those lessons from yesterday that can still work.
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Jan 13, 2019 13:11:55 GMT -5
Swagger doesn't have that many kayfabe accolades and for his one legitimate push he was still a comedy guy. He was never given a serious chance, for better or worse.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Jan 13, 2019 13:37:01 GMT -5
It's Roman. I enjoyed his work more than Del Rio's or Sheamus, but they never headlined a Wrestlemania. Roman main evented FOUR IN A ROW while being the narrative focus all year-round all four years.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jan 13, 2019 13:40:45 GMT -5
They're not really wrestlers (anymore), but given the amount of wasted TV time they've received, Vince McMahon, Stephanie McMahon, and Shane McMahon immediately come to mind.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 13, 2019 14:04:09 GMT -5
Swagger doesn't have that many kayfabe accolades and for his one legitimate push he was still a comedy guy. He was never given a serious chance, for better or worse. He was the top champion of two different brands (Smackdown and ECW), Had the US title, won a MITB when it was more important, and wrestled for a world title at WrestleMania. That’s not even getting into some of his accomplishments in Lucha Underground and the Indies. Perhaps he can’t compare to some others, but Swagger is quite decorated.
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