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Post by avenger on Jan 13, 2019 14:17:58 GMT -5
Michelle McCool. Twice divas champion, twice women's champion, booked like an end of level boss, and one of the most limited women's wrestlers of her era.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jan 13, 2019 14:23:10 GMT -5
Michelle McCool. Twice divas champion, twice women's champion, booked like an end of level boss, and one of the most limited women's wrestlers of her era. And she got to eliminate 4 women in the Royal Rumble (5 if you count the group elimination of Vickie)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 14:34:27 GMT -5
I really want to say Batista. I don't know if I can justify it to anybody, but that's just the feeling I've got. Don't feel bad, his name was the first that popped into my head. Then I saw Del Rio mentioned and I just couldn't say Big Dave.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 13, 2019 14:37:48 GMT -5
Michelle McCool. Twice divas champion, twice women's champion, booked like an end of level boss, and one of the most limited women's wrestlers of her era. If you watch those old matches, if you listen really closely, you can hear the sound of fists being taped in the distance...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 14:55:11 GMT -5
Michelle McCool. Twice divas champion, twice women's champion, booked like an end of level boss, and one of the most limited women's wrestlers of her era. From what I've read on here (I wasn't watching at the time), Michelle was quite good in the ring but couldn't get a reaction from the crowd to save her life. At least Alexa (while not the greatest in the ring) is over.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 13, 2019 17:06:21 GMT -5
It's Roman. I enjoyed his work more than Del Rio's or Sheamus, but they never headlined a Wrestlemania. Roman main evented FOUR IN A ROW while being the narrative focus all year-round all four years. Roman is a pretty good choice too... though I could at least kinda see why they want Roman as a main dude... and was probably over for a longer period of time than ADR. But yeah, main eventing more Mania's than just about anyone when almost no one wanted him there but Vince puts him pretty high. Michelle McCool. Twice divas champion, twice women's champion, booked like an end of level boss, and one of the most limited women's wrestlers of her era. Yeah, Michelle is really the only Woman that should be here... they pushed her as THE woman in the WWE and no one EVER gave a shit about her. Even when she comes out now they still have her as this destroyer of worlds but... NO ONE CARES. Hell the only time I remember she was booed was the Piggy James angle that most really disliked on a personal level. Alexa and Charlotte have a lot of accomplishments but the crowd have never reacted to them with the dead silence that Michelle gets.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 13, 2019 17:42:59 GMT -5
Sheamus. He isn't bad by any stretch, but look at his resume. Multi time world champ, us champ, tag champ, royal rumble winner, mitb winner, king of the ring. You'd think he is in the class of the Austin's, Rock's and Hogan's in terms of popularity.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jan 13, 2019 18:03:08 GMT -5
Sheamus. He isn't bad by any stretch, but look at his resume. Multi time world champ, us champ, tag champ, royal rumble winner, mitb winner, king of the ring. You'd think he is in the class of the Austin's, Rock's and Hogan's in terms of popularity. This. It’s ridiculous. He’s not even close.
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Post by Venti on Jan 13, 2019 22:59:58 GMT -5
To me, Del Rio and Sheamus are like irl versions of a create a wrestler that you make in the WWE games and you max out their stats to a 100 and give them like every available championship and accomplishment.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 14, 2019 0:45:29 GMT -5
I disagree with Sheamus because the years that most of those accolades happened: 2010-2012 he was one of the most consistent workhorses in the company and had some of the best matches of the era.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 14, 2019 4:09:31 GMT -5
Michelle McCool. Twice divas champion, twice women's champion, booked like an end of level boss, and one of the most limited women's wrestlers of her era. From what I've read on here (I wasn't watching at the time), Michelle was quite good in the ring but couldn't get a reaction from the crowd to save her life. At least Alexa (while not the greatest in the ring) is over. That was more like it, yeah; no way was McCool 'one of the most limited women's wrestlers of her era', she was actually one of the best wrestlers on a technical level of her era. Unless I missed out on all those Rosa Mendes classics. But she just had the personality of cardboard. Laycool helped, but as said, Piggy James overshadowed almost everything else they did over the two years together. In terms of unimpressive for in-ring ability, no way does McCool belong in the debate. In terms of unimpressive (or non-existant) fan reactions despite the accolades, I could see her being in there. Same for a guy like, say, Del Rio. The Charlotte nominations baffle me. I would put her sheer body of work in the ring above anyone else in the history of WWE's female wrestlers, with only Sasha close to volume (and Sasha's had a pretty fallow couple years, unfortunately), and she's had plenty of times getting good heat with face and heel promos and actions outside of the ring. I think she's the best all-around, please note the emphasis, talent they have in that division.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jan 14, 2019 5:26:57 GMT -5
There's some contenders out there with Del Rio and Orton, and Charlotte Flair...
But I'm going to go a little out of left field for most maybe and present the example of Edge. Maybe not most, but boy howdy is he up there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 5:37:37 GMT -5
Swagger and Alexa.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 14, 2019 7:28:29 GMT -5
It is odd.
Becaus eI think Reigns and Charlotte are better talent than Del Rio and Sheamus.But the ammount of accolade they got is WAY more desproportional.
So i'm going in order: Reigns,Del Rio,Charlotte, Sheamus( Charlotte will probably jump a spot when she wins the rumble)
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 14, 2019 7:32:03 GMT -5
There's some contenders out there with Del Rio and Orton, and Charlotte Flair... But I'm going to go a little out of left field for most maybe and present the example of Edge. Maybe not most, but boy howdy is he up there. I’m surprised Edge wasn’t brought up earlier. Unlike some mentioned he was pretty darn good for a lot of his career and had an exciting career with crowd reactions pretty much throughout. But when he retired he had the most title reigns in WWE history. A claim like that seems like you should be in at least top 10 greatest of all time territory, if too 5. Perhaps he isn’t quite right for this thread title, but it’s a disproportionate amount of accomplishments from some perspectives.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 14, 2019 7:34:40 GMT -5
There's some contenders out there with Del Rio and Orton, and Charlotte Flair... But I'm going to go a little out of left field for most maybe and present the example of Edge. Maybe not most, but boy howdy is he up there. I’m surprised Edge wasn’t brought up earlier. Unlike some mentioned he was pretty darn good for a lot of his career and had an exciting career with crowd reactions pretty much throughout. But when he retired he had the most title reigns in WWE history. A claim like that seems like you should be in at least top 10 greatest of all time territory, if too 5. Perhaps he isn’t quite right for this thread title, but it’s a disproportionate amount of accomplishments from some perspectives. I think it is mostly because he is the "Ultiimate Opportunists" and most title wins he had was that, him being a sleazy bastard,so people associate him with cheap wins.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 14, 2019 7:55:48 GMT -5
I’m surprised Edge wasn’t brought up earlier. Unlike some mentioned he was pretty darn good for a lot of his career and had an exciting career with crowd reactions pretty much throughout. But when he retired he had the most title reigns in WWE history. A claim like that seems like you should be in at least top 10 greatest of all time territory, if too 5. Perhaps he isn’t quite right for this thread title, but it’s a disproportionate amount of accomplishments from some perspectives. I think ti is mostly because he is the "Ultiimate Opportunists" and most title wins he had was that, him being a sleazy bastard,so people associate him with cheap wins. Yeah, I could just see the argument being made that this led to too much. You could also make the counter argument that titles themselves aren’t really accomplishments (which I’m surprised hasn’t been brought up more in this thread) and even if they were Edge held most very briefly. If you consider accomplishments things like being put in main event spots I’m not sure I can say Edge really took anyone’s spot that was more impressive. He main evented WrestleMania in the final match once and was in multiple title matches at Mania, but I’m not sure he stole this accomplishment from anyone more impressive. Maybe CM Punk, but I don’t think that timeline quite matches up. Also, despite going on last once I don’t think ever had the most advertised match at Mania.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 14, 2019 8:04:29 GMT -5
I think ti is mostly because he is the "Ultiimate Opportunists" and most title wins he had was that, him being a sleazy bastard,so people associate him with cheap wins. Yeah, I could just see the argument being made that this led to too much. You could also make the counter argument that titles themselves aren’t really accomplishments (which I’m surprised hasn’t been brought up more in this thread) and even if they were Edge held most very briefly. If you consider accomplishments things like being put in main event spots I’m not sure I can say Edge really took anyone’s spot that was more impressive. He main evented WrestleMania in the final match once and was in multiple title matches at Mania, but I’m not sure he stole this accomplishment from anyone more impressive. Maybe CM Punk, but I don’t think that timeline quite matches up. Also, despite going on last once I don’t think ever had the most advertised match at Mania. I don't know if I really ever thought of Edge as "Unimpressive". I mean, Jinder will probably forever be the most unimpressive dude to win the World Title, but he's also never winning it again, so...
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Post by Dub H on Jan 14, 2019 8:23:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I could just see the argument being made that this led to too much. You could also make the counter argument that titles themselves aren’t really accomplishments (which I’m surprised hasn’t been brought up more in this thread) and even if they were Edge held most very briefly. If you consider accomplishments things like being put in main event spots I’m not sure I can say Edge really took anyone’s spot that was more impressive. He main evented WrestleMania in the final match once and was in multiple title matches at Mania, but I’m not sure he stole this accomplishment from anyone more impressive. Maybe CM Punk, but I don’t think that timeline quite matches up. Also, despite going on last once I don’t think ever had the most advertised match at Mania. I don't know if I really ever thought of Edge as "Unimpressive". I mean, Jinder will probably forever be the most unimpressive dude to win the World Title, but he's also never winning it again, so... Really,any other dude you could say they had something going for then or a fun segment Swagger had the Orton Match,The Trophy Showcase segment.(that is on his run alone, outside of it he had a great debut in ECW, Soaring Eagle, the Real Americna gimmick got some heat behind) Sheamus had a GREAT look for him ,had some really good segments such as him killing Jamie Noble. Jinder Mahal has some good matches against Nakamura and Styles,but nothing that really that stands out in his whole career
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 14, 2019 8:32:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I could just see the argument being made that this led to too much. You could also make the counter argument that titles themselves aren’t really accomplishments (which I’m surprised hasn’t been brought up more in this thread) and even if they were Edge held most very briefly. If you consider accomplishments things like being put in main event spots I’m not sure I can say Edge really took anyone’s spot that was more impressive. He main evented WrestleMania in the final match once and was in multiple title matches at Mania, but I’m not sure he stole this accomplishment from anyone more impressive. Maybe CM Punk, but I don’t think that timeline quite matches up. Also, despite going on last once I don’t think ever had the most advertised match at Mania. I don't know if I really ever thought of Edge as "Unimpressive". I mean, Jinder will probably forever be the most unimpressive dude to win the World Title, but he's also never winning it again, so... Yeah that’s why I was thinking Edge might not quite fit this thread. He more had a disproportionate amount of achievement. In the most general sense though you’d be crazy to call Edge unimpressive.
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