|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 17, 2019 11:51:13 GMT -5
Meltzer: The first TV show on Pursuit was on 1/11. We don’t have a viewer number but that is a very low-rated station so it won’t be much. The only Twitch numbers we have is that the Impact station had 20,000 viewers throughout the day total on 1/11 and 19,000 on 1/12, which was up a little from the 5,000 to 10,000 most days. So it’s not like there are a ton of people watching the show on that platform. Ok you have the ten million dollars from Sony Six each year, would combining that with the money twitch and the new channel give them enough to support the company?
|
|
markymark
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Posts: 17,903
|
Post by markymark on Jan 17, 2019 12:01:28 GMT -5
I remember their UK deal used to be big(on par with their current India deal), but idk how much of a downgrade is 5Spike compared to Challenge TV, they also have a TV deal in Mexico, Brazil.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 17, 2019 12:12:54 GMT -5
Meltzer: The first TV show on Pursuit was on 1/11. We don’t have a viewer number but that is a very low-rated station so it won’t be much. The only Twitch numbers we have is that the Impact station had 20,000 viewers throughout the day total on 1/11 and 19,000 on 1/12, which was up a little from the 5,000 to 10,000 most days. So it’s not like there are a ton of people watching the show on that platform. Ok you have the ten million dollars from Sony Six each year, would combining that with the money twitch and the new channel give them enough to support the company? Obviously since they are still working at the moment and would have shut down if the new network was going do nothing for them
|
|
|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 17, 2019 12:15:52 GMT -5
Ok you have the ten million dollars from Sony Six each year, would combining that with the money twitch and the new channel give them enough to support the company? Obviously since they are still working at the moment and would have shut down if the new network was going do nothing for them Nordholm admitted that Anthem wanted to pull the plug because the profit wasn’t enough to cover for the losses. I hope that isn’t the case anymore and that they’re no longer in red numbers.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 17, 2019 12:18:49 GMT -5
Obviously since they are still working at the moment and would have shut down if the new network was going do nothing for them Nordholm admitted that Anthem wanted to pull the plug because the profit wasn’t enough to cover for the losses. I hope that isn’t the case anymore and that they’re no longer in red numbers. It’s going be a long long long time before they even think they can make a profit with this company. The best you can do is make the loss as minimal as possible With them considering Jericho they Def have to have some funds because he wasn’t going to come cheap or join out the goodness of his heart
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 17, 2019 12:22:04 GMT -5
I'm not really seeing where this is something to mock them over? It's basically a poor situation they're in entirely due to inherited problems from previous people running the company despite putting on a better (granted I still don't think particularly good) product and what she said while maybe a little tone deaf really isn't unreasonable at all. Also, people need to understand that this is not the 90's Monday Night Wars and that ratings are not the be-all, end-all measure of success... especially in this situation. That would be the case if Josh and Ethan Page didn’t try to act like ratings don’t matter anymore. Opening their mouths def brought more attention to that than it would have mattered Also unlike other companies like NJPW on Axis or ROH, Impact was on cable TV and drawing numbers. They have gone from 1.1 to “nothing” which itself is the bigger story on why people focus on ratings for them and not anyone else
|
|
|
Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 17, 2019 12:30:28 GMT -5
Nordholm admitted that Anthem wanted to pull the plug because the profit wasn’t enough to cover for the losses. I hope that isn’t the case anymore and that they’re no longer in red numbers. It’s going be a long long long time before they even think they can make a profit with this company. The best you can do is make the loss as minimal as possible With them considering Jericho they Def have to have some funds because he wasn’t going to come cheap or join out the goodness of his heart Jericho would never join impact even if his kids work there they can’t afford him and would be stupid to waste money on that. One appearance by Chris Jericho won’t fix the company, it’ll take longer.
|
|
|
Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 22, 2019 21:41:36 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Jan 22, 2019 21:57:43 GMT -5
Just when you think TNA/Impact/Whatever can't sink any lower, they go and find a new low. They are the Mariana Trench of professional wrestling.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X on Jan 22, 2019 22:10:17 GMT -5
Less than 8k
Now I really want to know what the porn channels pulled in
|
|
|
Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 22, 2019 22:32:45 GMT -5
Less than 8k Now I really want to know what the porn channels pulled in To be fair, that's their twitch numbers as we have no idea what the Pursuit numbers are although it's a 25% drop off from the previous week.
|
|
chrom
Backup Wench
Master of the rare undecuple post
Posts: 84,137
|
Post by chrom on Jan 22, 2019 22:42:31 GMT -5
Said it before, I'll say it again.
They seriously thought they were going to get millions of viewers?
|
|
|
Post by The Spelunker! on Jan 22, 2019 23:51:35 GMT -5
Said it before, I'll say it again. They seriously thought they were going to get millions of viewers? Not on Twitch. It's still on the top broadcasts of wrestling on the platform. Their goal there is to grow the following on Twitch, and convert fans to subs. Amazon and Twitch are real intrigued by Wrestling on their platform, and Impact is an early adopter and at this point the biggest regular user. I believe it's likely going to be used as a loss leader, and if it catches on hotter, so much the better. The business model would most likely be designed around getting subs, with a minimum cut of 2.50 per sub.
|
|
|
Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 23, 2019 0:59:32 GMT -5
Not an amazing situation when you can't get people to watch your show legitimately for free on a non-scuzzy streaming site. TNA's product just isn't landing with a lot of people.
|
|
.
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Bye
Posts: 16,430
|
Post by . on Jan 23, 2019 1:56:17 GMT -5
Said it before, I'll say it again. They seriously thought they were going to get millions of viewers? Not on Twitch. It's still on the top broadcasts of wrestling on the platform. Their goal there is to grow the following on Twitch, and convert fans to subs. Amazon and Twitch are real intrigued by Wrestling on their platform, and Impact is an early adopter and at this point the biggest regular user. I believe it's likely going to be used as a loss leader, and if it catches on hotter, so much the better. The business model would most likely be designed around getting subs, with a minimum cut of 2.50 per sub. Only, why would I bother watching the channel thus giving them ratings if I can just see it on the much more accessible twitch? Also, it's a bit more than naive to think Amazon or twitch care one lick about wrestling. It's a niche and in Twitches case Gaming rules the platform 100x over
|
|
|
Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 23, 2019 2:49:17 GMT -5
Not on Twitch. It's still on the top broadcasts of wrestling on the platform. Their goal there is to grow the following on Twitch, and convert fans to subs. Amazon and Twitch are real intrigued by Wrestling on their platform, and Impact is an early adopter and at this point the biggest regular user. I believe it's likely going to be used as a loss leader, and if it catches on hotter, so much the better. The business model would most likely be designed around getting subs, with a minimum cut of 2.50 per sub. Only, why would I bother watching the channel thus giving them ratings if I can just see it on the much more accessible twitch? Also, it's a bit more than naive to think Amazon or twitch care one lick about wrestling. It's a niche and in Twitches case Gaming rules the platform 100x over The twitchpresents channel is running old Doctor Who episodes right now, the Just Chatting category is currently the fifth most viewed category, and in the past they have pushed for plenty of other things and ideas. Tens of thousands of people tune in every Thursday to see a bunch of voice actors play D&D. Video games are still the main thing twitch runs, but they definitely want to compete with Youtube's own streaming functions and encourage general content and other hobby stuff in there. Amazon may not care about getting into the wrestling game with their own money, but allowing promotions to monetize on their platform makes them money at no cost, so of course they're welcoming it.
|
|
Push R Truth
Patti Mayonnaise
Unique and Special Snowflake, and a pants-less heathen.
Perpetually Constipated
Posts: 39,219
Member is Online
|
Post by Push R Truth on Jan 23, 2019 10:17:29 GMT -5
It even feels bad to point and laugh
TNA is the kid that eats everybody else's lunch on a field trip, calls the bus driver every racist word in the book and purposefully shits their pants 30 seconds after the ride home starts.
|
|
.
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Bye
Posts: 16,430
|
Post by . on Jan 23, 2019 11:13:53 GMT -5
Only, why would I bother watching the channel thus giving them ratings if I can just see it on the much more accessible twitch? Also, it's a bit more than naive to think Amazon or twitch care one lick about wrestling. It's a niche and in Twitches case Gaming rules the platform 100x over The twitchpresents channel is running old Doctor Who episodes right now, the Just Chatting category is currently the fifth most viewed category, and in the past they have pushed for plenty of other things and ideas. Tens of thousands of people tune in every Thursday to see a bunch of voice actors play D&D. Video games are still the main thing twitch runs, but they definitely want to compete with Youtube's own streaming functions and encourage general content and other hobby stuff in there. Amazon may not care about getting into the wrestling game with their own money, but allowing promotions to monetize on their platform makes them money at no cost, so of course they're welcoming it. Good points. I'd say, however, averaging say 10k won't raise a lot of eyebrows when a live Chess channel (tata steel)pulls in twice that.
|
|
markymark
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Posts: 17,903
|
Post by markymark on Jan 23, 2019 12:06:36 GMT -5
Not on Twitch. It's still on the top broadcasts of wrestling on the platform. Their goal there is to grow the following on Twitch, and convert fans to subs. Amazon and Twitch are real intrigued by Wrestling on their platform, and Impact is an early adopter and at this point the biggest regular user. I believe it's likely going to be used as a loss leader, and if it catches on hotter, so much the better. The business model would most likely be designed around getting subs, with a minimum cut of 2.50 per sub. Only, why would I bother watching the channel thus giving them ratings if I can just see it on the much more accessible twitch? Also, it's a bit more than naive to think Amazon or twitch care one lick about wrestling. It's a niche and in Twitches case Gaming rules the platform 100x over
This might sound a bit disrespectful but oldies(35 year old people and above) prefer more watching wrestling on tv than checking it on twitch.
With the twitch deal seems that they tried to appeal to the young fans(teenagers up to young adults).
I remember that old TNA demographic average was 50 year old.
|
|
.
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Bye
Posts: 16,430
|
Post by . on Jan 23, 2019 12:29:04 GMT -5
Only, why would I bother watching the channel thus giving them ratings if I can just see it on the much more accessible twitch? Also, it's a bit more than naive to think Amazon or twitch care one lick about wrestling. It's a niche and in Twitches case Gaming rules the platform 100x over This might sound a bit disrespectful but oldies(35 year old people and above) prefer more watching wrestling on tv than checking it on twitch. With the twitch deal seems that they tried to appeal to the young fans(teenagers up to young adults). I remember that old TNA demographic average was 50 year old.
Another good point. I was more getting at if your goal is TV ratings then having the bulk of your viewership be on a free medium like twitch may not be the best course of action. Also, {grumble] In my day ya had to turn the TV knobs by hand and ya only had 100 channels and ya liked it![/grumble]
|
|