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Post by chazraps on Jan 16, 2019 18:44:17 GMT -5
...other than Royal Rumble 94 against the Harts and the match where they drop the belts to Janetty and 1-2-3 Kid on Raw two weeks prior?
I just revisited both of those and forgot how great they were as a team. Any other matches with them tagging together you suggest checking out?
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Post by johnnyk9 on Jan 17, 2019 14:12:02 GMT -5
In 1998 they actually had a decent match with Sniper and Reccon when they made their once off appearance as Armageddon shame it didn’t take off
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Post by chronocross on Jan 17, 2019 14:42:34 GMT -5
They had a pretty good match with Razor/Kid on Raw in February 1994.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 17, 2019 18:18:05 GMT -5
Rougeau is a massively underrated worker, probably because he hugely overrated himself. I loved the Quebecers, they were watchable, even in the jobbersquash shows and I love when wrestlers sing their own themes, badly.
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Post by Wardlow on Wardlow 54 on Jan 17, 2019 18:30:45 GMT -5
I remember their match with the Godwinns at No Way Out Of Texas was actually a pretty good heel vs. heel brawl. How were their matches with Harlem Heat in WCW?
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 17, 2019 18:42:06 GMT -5
Rougeau is a massively underrated worker, probably because he hugely overrated himself. I loved the Quebecers, they were watchable, even in the jobbersquash shows and I love when wrestlers sing their own themes, badly. I'll never forget a story a podcast I listened to told once: They were at a convention, and there was a Shawn/Bret kind of sit-down talk thing, years after they'd smoothed things over, just telling old road stories and this and that. About midway through, a guy gets up to the mic, and it's Jacques Rougeau, tearfully reminiscing on the days when Bret, Shawn, and HIM were changing the business. Like, yeah, decent worker, but utterly delusional human being.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 17, 2019 20:37:31 GMT -5
The match where they dropped the titles to the Headshrinkers was decent
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Post by benstudd on Jan 18, 2019 4:13:29 GMT -5
Rougeau is a massively underrated worker, probably because he hugely overrated himself. I loved the Quebecers, they were watchable, even in the jobbersquash shows and I love when wrestlers sing their own themes, badly. I'll never forget a story a podcast I listened to told once: They were at a convention, and there was a Shawn/Bret kind of sit-down talk thing, years after they'd smoothed things over, just telling old road stories and this and that. About midway through, a guy gets up to the mic, and it's Jacques Rougeau, tearfully reminiscing on the days when Bret, Shawn, and HIM were changing the business. Like, yeah, decent worker, but utterly delusional human being. I'm not shocked. Jacques comes from my neck of woods and he's in 365 days a year into selling his own legend. Imagine Hogan but + 11 because Hogan actually did things. And everytime he doesn't realise that some people that hear him talk actually know this stuff. I bought a book/magazine that he had done and most of it was stuff we already knew about wrestling. As a tag team I think the Rougeaus were actually better than the Quebecers but Quebecers had the better gimmick and accompished more. PCO brought a lot more grit to the dance that Ray did not have. And that match against the Harts where Owen turned was such a great textbook tag team heeling. Dibiase at commentary was the cherry on the cake.
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 18, 2019 6:09:17 GMT -5
Their tag team title win was so random because they had only had like 4 TV matches and I only personally had seen 1 of them at that point so it felt out of left field. Was the Steiner match any good? I haven't watched it since it first aired.
There wasn't many good teams for them to face really, other than Steiner s & Harts (who were temporary)
Strangely they never worked a TV match against The Smoking Gunns.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 18, 2019 9:21:49 GMT -5
Their tag team title win was so random because they had only had like 4 TV matches and I only personally had seen 1 of them at that point so it felt out of left field. Was the Steiner match any good? I haven't watched it since it first aired. There wasn't many good teams for them to face really, other than Steiner s & Harts (who were temporary) Strangely they never worked a TV match against The Smoking Gunns. The match where they win the belts is, good, but it's...weird. There's all these unnecessary stipulations. It's a solid, but very, very overbooked match.
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Post by ronnie2hotty on Jan 18, 2019 9:41:50 GMT -5
To me, the weird thing about it was that these rules had never really existed before this match, nor did they ever exist after it. Unless it aired on a random syndicated show at the time, I also don't remember any build to rule changes. No promos saying why The Quebecers wanted these rules instead of normal rules, or nothing even saying why the Steiners would ever accept the challenge.
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 18, 2019 10:20:47 GMT -5
I wonder if, The Steiners were starting act out at this point (they were clearly unhappy) so they decided to take it off them, or they just wanted a heel team to win it so Steiners could chase again? Jim Cornette says the Heavenly Bodies were not full time until 1994 (still working SMW as well) so maybe thats why they chose those Quebecers instead of them.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 18, 2019 16:07:35 GMT -5
The rules for the match were a dig at the NWA (over the top rope DQ, banned moves, etc.)
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 18, 2019 16:13:24 GMT -5
The rules for the match were a dig at the NWA (over the top rope DQ, banned moves, etc.) Really? I have a hard time believing that. That's such a random place to take a swipe at a company that no longer mattered, in a throw away match on a random Raw with no build or anything.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 18, 2019 16:22:53 GMT -5
The rules for the match were a dig at the NWA (over the top rope DQ, banned moves, etc.) Really? I have a hard time believing that. That's such a random place to take a swipe at a company that no longer mattered, in a throw away match on a random Raw with no build or anything. I don't know how to break this to you but Vince McMahon can be a petty, petty man.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 16:34:49 GMT -5
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 18, 2019 18:40:38 GMT -5
To me, the weird thing about it was that these rules had never really existed before this match, nor did they ever exist after it. Unless it aired on a random syndicated show at the time, I also don't remember any build to rule changes. No promos saying why The Quebecers wanted these rules instead of normal rules, or nothing even saying why the Steiners would ever accept the challenge. The Raw title match was also the first time I saw them on TV. They must have debuted and wrestled matches on Challenge because I got every WWF show on TV but that one so I would've known them if they were on Raw, All American, Mania or Superstars. I think they were also in the WWF Superstars yearbook magazine so I think WWF put them out as a Del Rio "big deal...quickly" thing because I think the magazine went on sale before the Raw title match but I didn't get it until later. They had a pretty good run but it seemed like Jacques always wound up leaving in the middle of a run without much explanation as to why, on TV so I think they could've gone on longer as a top heel team. Someone else pointed out that Smoking Gunns and Quebeccers didn't wrestle on TV. It seems like Gunns really did nothing of note from summer 1993 to winning the tag titles in early 1995 and from that point on they were usually the top one or two team, either the title holders or going after the titles. I know tag teams (except for make-shift) were scare around that period but it's strange they go from nothing to almost two years of sold top tag team. But I guess they were reliable guys and they were popular enough.
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