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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 18, 2019 11:04:22 GMT -5
Well yeah Brock needs people to fly and bump and make him look good.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 18, 2019 11:07:42 GMT -5
Honestly, the part of me that wants that lazy bastard Brock to go away forever can't help but wonder if Brock wanted Balor because he's easier to suplex than Braun. Therefore suplex city is a lot easier to pull off because he's not lifting as much. I do hope that Balor gets some shine in this but after the past few years I go into every Brock match expecting zero effort from him which is okay in multi-man matches but not so much in one on one. I love the idea that the internet wrestling community is excited for the match because Brock has good chemistry with lighter guys, and the fact that he hand picked him means he'll put more effort in. Meanwhile Brock just wants to lift less weight. WHO DO YOU WANT AT THE RUMBLE, BROCK? Hornswogggle. HE WAS FIRED YEARS AGO. Then get me some other little Irish guy, I don't care.
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Post by BoomPeriod on Jan 18, 2019 12:49:27 GMT -5
Lesnar vs Orton all over again
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jan 18, 2019 15:38:40 GMT -5
Honestly, the part of me that wants that lazy bastard Brock to go away forever can't help but wonder if Brock wanted Balor because he's easier to suplex than Braun. Therefore suplex city is a lot easier to pull off because he's not lifting as much. I do hope that Balor gets some shine in this but after the past few years I go into every Brock match expecting zero effort from him which is okay in multi-man matches but not so much in one on one. I love the idea that the internet wrestling community is excited for the match because Brock has good chemistry with lighter guys, and the fact that he hand picked him means he'll put more effort in. Meanwhile Brock just wants to lift less weight. WHO DO YOU WANT AT THE RUMBLE, BROCK? Hornswogggle. HE WAS FIRED YEARS AGO. Then get me some other little Irish guy, I guy don't care. That’s rather cynical
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Post by Doctor No on Jan 18, 2019 18:42:22 GMT -5
Losses eventually matter. AJ and Bryan had world titles of their own and were on substantial upward trajectories as characters when they had their morale victories. Balor is characterized as inferior to the top guys since that injury and his biggest ongoing rivalries in the last 6 months are with Jinder and Corbin. He doesn’t need to be a stepping stone to justify the expense of the highest paid worker in the company right now.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 18, 2019 18:54:19 GMT -5
To be fair to Brock, he loves wrestling and he loves performing. With the one exception of the match against Ambrose at 'Mania, when he had his full attention on his UFC return, his perceived laziness is more a case of him being a victim of booking. Suplex City got over huge, and now that's all WWE want him to do, because they can't help themselves riding a hot gimmick into the ground.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 18, 2019 18:57:27 GMT -5
Brock picked Finn? Well Finn must feel like the Balor of the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 22:38:48 GMT -5
It should be Demon Balor and Brock should sell it like The Undertaker is walking down the ramp.
This would add a new dimension to the match. It’s not Brock against this skinny bloke 100lbs lighter than him. It’s Brock against this deranged monster he’s never faced before. The suspense of Brock “beating The Demon” would be there. It should be a back and forth match.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 18, 2019 22:45:36 GMT -5
It should be Demon Balor and Brock should sell it like The Undertaker is walking down the ramp. This would add a new dimension to the match. It’s not Brock against this skinny bloke 100lbs lighter than him. It’s Brock against this deranged monster he’s never faced before. The suspense of Brock “beating The Demon” would be there. It should be a back and forth match. I think that works better if regular Balor takes a hard-fought defeat first. He pushes Brock as close as it gets but comes up short, Herman crows about Lesnar's latest conquest, then boom, Demon Balor, and he gets the edge needed to slay the beast. It's all academic, of course. Balor's not going over, so don't waste the Demon in a nothing match.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 22:54:19 GMT -5
It should be Demon Balor and Brock should sell it like The Undertaker is walking down the ramp. This would add a new dimension to the match. It’s not Brock against this skinny bloke 100lbs lighter than him. It’s Brock against this deranged monster he’s never faced before. The suspense of Brock “beating The Demon” would be there. It should be a back and forth match. I think that works better if regular Balor takes a hard-fought defeat first. He pushes Brock as close as it gets but comes up short, Herman crows about Lesnar's latest conquest, then boom, Demon Balor, and he gets the edge needed to slay the beast. It's all academic, of course. Balor's not going over, so don't waste the Demon in a nothing match. You’re talking sense BUT I don’t see Balor/Lesnar facing off twice.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 18, 2019 22:57:12 GMT -5
It should be Demon Balor and Brock should sell it like The Undertaker is walking down the ramp. It’s not like Lesnar was ever recoiling with fear at the sight of The Undertaker, though, if that’s what you were going for. In fact, I don’t think I can recall seeing him react to anyone in any specifically notable manner in this run.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 22:58:41 GMT -5
It should be Demon Balor and Brock should sell it like The Undertaker is walking down the ramp. It’s not like Lesnar was ever recoiling with fear at the sight of The Undertaker, though, if that’s what you were going for. In fact, I don’t think I can recall seeing him react to anyone in any specifically notable manner in this run. That’s true. But Demon Balor is more of a mindf*** than Undertaker IMO.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 18, 2019 23:11:34 GMT -5
I think that works better if regular Balor takes a hard-fought defeat first. He pushes Brock as close as it gets but comes up short, Herman crows about Lesnar's latest conquest, then boom, Demon Balor, and he gets the edge needed to slay the beast. It's all academic, of course. Balor's not going over, so don't waste the Demon in a nothing match. You’re talking sense BUT I don’t see Balor/Lesnar facing off twice. Hence the last part. At best he's just keeping Lesnar busy until he puts Rollins (probably) over at 'Mania, and vanilla Balor isn't overly protected, so just feed him to Lesnar and save the Demon for something that matters.
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Post by Fade on Jan 18, 2019 23:42:08 GMT -5
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Post by The Trashman on Jan 19, 2019 0:10:06 GMT -5
You’re talking sense BUT I don’t see Balor/Lesnar facing off twice. Hence the last part. At best he's just keeping Lesnar busy until he puts Rollins (probably) over at 'Mania, and vanilla Balor isn't overly protected, so just feed him to Lesnar and save the Demon for something that matters. What matters more than the title against Brock Lesnar at the Royal Rumble of all events? How many main event matches does Balor get? Even if the Demon loses it wouldn't be hard to build the mystique again.
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Post by schma on Jan 19, 2019 0:13:19 GMT -5
I love the idea that the internet wrestling community is excited for the match because Brock has good chemistry with lighter guys, and the fact that he hand picked him means he'll put more effort in. Meanwhile Brock just wants to lift less weight. WHO DO YOU WANT AT THE RUMBLE, BROCK? Hornswogggle. HE WAS FIRED YEARS AGO. Then get me some other little Irish guy, I guy don't care. That’s rather cynical It's true, I fully acknowledge that I'm being pretty damn cynical here (I know technically you quoted the post that quoted me). However, him barely lifting Braun up vs flinging around some light guy seems like a no brainer for the guy who's mostly there to cash a cheque. I'm hoping Balor at least gets some good spots in but the cynical part of me expects Brock to just body him and then 1,2,3. To be fair to Brock, he loves wrestling and he loves performing. With the one exception of the match against Ambrose at 'Mania, when he had his full attention on his UFC return, his perceived laziness is more a case of him being a victim of booking. Suplex City got over huge, and now that's all WWE want him to do, because they can't help themselves riding a hot gimmick into the ground. I've never really seen a love of wrestling or performing with Brock. He certainly loves making a lot of money and occasionally has fun with Paul but that seems to be about it. His laziness isn't just booking. Most of his best matches are multiman matches but if you watch them he spends 3/4s of those matches laid out outside the ring taking a nap until it's time to come in and do his finish and win. He let AJ have a match after doing his Brock thing, I will give him that. However, I haven't really seen anything from the dude that makes me think he minds his lazy matches.
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Post by Chiral on Jan 19, 2019 0:36:35 GMT -5
It should be Demon Balor and Brock should sell it like The Undertaker is walking down the ramp. It’s not like Lesnar was ever recoiling with fear at the sight of The Undertaker, though, if that’s what you were going for. In fact, I don’t think I can recall seeing him react to anyone in any specifically notable manner in this run. The only thing I could think of for entrance reactions from Brock this run is when Triple H got that dry ice on him at WM29.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 19, 2019 0:52:25 GMT -5
Hence the last part. At best he's just keeping Lesnar busy until he puts Rollins (probably) over at 'Mania, and vanilla Balor isn't overly protected, so just feed him to Lesnar and save the Demon for something that matters. What matters more than the title against Brock Lesnar at the Royal Rumble of all events? How many main event matches does Balor get? Even if the Demon loses it wouldn't be hard to build the mystique again. The WrestleMania match is literally the only time a Lesnar match matters any more, especially when a title is involved. Everything else is "We gotta justify Brock's salary, put him on the card." Balor will put in a good showing at the Rumble, maybe be involved in the Elimination Chamber match, and then work a midcard match at Mania.
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Post by trollrogue on Jan 19, 2019 2:10:22 GMT -5
damn Daniel Bryan is lowkey booking RAW matches even as he's the WWE Champion on SDLive (after being a former GM of the brand) he might have too much power
This match would've never happened if DB didn't have that incredible fight against Lesnar at Survivor Series. Finn actually beating Lesnar would've made no sense-- but now The Demon vs Lesnar (like how Daniel Bryan had to switch gears to take the advantage against Lesnar in his fight with the Univ Champ) is too tough to call
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Post by slaughterama on Jan 19, 2019 4:52:31 GMT -5
I really think Brock likes this business more than we give him credit for. Agreed. The guy rarely did an interview where he didn't put over the business, even when he left for the first time. Hell, the guy has a ring at his house and has made people take bumps when they questioned how tough it is. People seem to have a hard time comprehending the difference between him working a limited schedule, and passion for the business. As if they'd turn down the same opportunity if it presented itself in their line of work because they like their job.
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