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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 0:15:49 GMT -5
Any fight that Takada won was fixed. Hell the guy was such a shitty MMA fighter he ended getting KOed in a fight that he was supposed to win. Though honestly I reckon Shamrock vs Kimbo wasn't a work and was instead a really shitty fight between two terrible fighters. I don't have anything interesting or relevant to add, but every time I scrolled past messages talking about this, I kept reading "Takada" as "Tatanka." Everything Tatanka did was a straight up shoot
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 11, 2019 2:33:47 GMT -5
I say this with as little hyperbole as possible when I say that I believe the money, fame, and prestige from curing cancer would dwarf any other we've bestowed on a scientist or doctor to this point in history. And in a world where developing medicines and treatments for diseases is an extremely competitive for-profit business, the first company to develop and patent an honest-to-god cure for cancer becomes the richest, most valuable company in the world overnight. A huge part of the heavy lifting for pharmaceutical research is done by the public sector. If there was any sort of push to steer all universities worldwide away from the path that would lead to a cure, there is no way whatsoever that everyone involved would stay silent on the matter given that they wouldn't be bound to the same NDA's they would be as pharma company employees.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 11, 2019 2:45:43 GMT -5
And in a world where developing medicines and treatments for diseases is an extremely competitive for-profit business, the first company to develop and patent an honest-to-god cure for cancer becomes the richest, most valuable company in the world overnight. A huge part of the heavy lifting for pharmaceutical research is done by the public sector. If there was any sort of push to steer all universities worldwide away from the path that would lead to a cure, there is no way whatsoever that everyone involved would stay silent on the matter given that they wouldn't be bound to the same NDA's they would be as pharma company employees. Yup. It's a conspiracy that would require tens of thousands of people, maybe even hundreds, to all be in complete co-operation on the singular goal of suppressing a cure. And much like most conspiracies, it falls apart completely once you start putting some thought into it.
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Post by tartsonawire on Feb 11, 2019 3:36:07 GMT -5
Marilyn Monroe. Sure, it's well known that she abused all kinds of drugs, but given the people she was connected to and how botched the investigation was, I'm not entirely convinced it was a suicide.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 11, 2019 3:54:58 GMT -5
I don’t believe the US government plotted 9/11, but I damn sure believe they ignored the signs. Pearl Harbor too. I'm kinda with you on those, in that if we found a smoking gun, I wouldn't be that shocked. But for different reasons. With Pearl Harbour, FDR really wanted to get into the war, and while remaining neutral, the trading policy he was overseeing was pushing the definition of neutral to the breaking point. Pearl Harbour specifically I don't know what they knew, but I can't imagine he wasn't expecting some kind of attack to bring America in. 9/11 seems more ignorance in the most literal sense. When you hear stuff like Bush dismissing someone trying to give a report by saying ''All right, you've covered your ass now." Which is on record as actually happening, that's just an insane level of not giving a shit.
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Post by cosmo on Feb 11, 2019 3:57:28 GMT -5
The closest I'll ever get to believing any conspiracy theory is this: If Suge Knight didn't have Biggie and Tupac killed, he has a good idea who did.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Feb 11, 2019 4:29:44 GMT -5
I kind of buy into the theory of Michael Jordan's first retirement being essentially a stealth suspension by the NBA.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 11, 2019 4:31:19 GMT -5
9/11 seems more ignorance in the most literal sense. When you hear stuff like Bush dismissing someone trying to give a report by saying ''All right, you've covered your ass now." Which is on record as actually happening, that's just an insane level of not giving a shit. Agreed. Were the government complicit in 9/11? Nope. Like with the cancer conspiracy, there's far too many people who by necessity would have had to be in the loop for it to happen for it to remain just a conspiracy theory for long, especially once you get past the planes hitting their targets and into the controlled demolition theories. Were the government simply too stupid, incompetent, ignorant, lazy, or a combination of them all to act when presented with the possibility that a terrorist attack was in the works? There's more than enough evidence to suggest that this is the case. Especially with regards to plane hijackings there was always a "that's something that happens in other, inferior countries" attitude amongst U.S. government officials before 9/11.
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Post by northernmonkey on Feb 11, 2019 15:28:38 GMT -5
Lizard people
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 11, 2019 21:32:15 GMT -5
I say this with as little hyperbole as possible when I say that I believe the money, fame, and prestige from curing cancer would dwarf any other we've bestowed on a scientist or doctor to this point in history. And in a world where developing medicines and treatments for diseases is an extremely competitive for-profit business, the first company to develop and patent an honest-to-god cure for cancer becomes the richest, most valuable company in the world overnight. Exactly, the money in treating cancer would pale in comparison to cure cancer money.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 12, 2019 2:55:26 GMT -5
The bombs may not have been “necessary”, but estimates for a ground invasion put casualties at half a million on the Allied side alone. It was a way of trying to dodge that particular bullet, and in retrospect the right call. This the conspiracy part. The Japanese government had largely made up their minds they were going to end up surrendering but were hoping they could wring some favorable terms out of the allied powers-in particular a promise the emperor would be granted immunity to war crime charges. The very first US troops to artuvs in Tokyo even predicted the bombs had shortened the war by, at most, a few weeks. Harry Truman has walked into the Potsdam Conference feeling sure the bombs wouldn’t even be needed because Russia had already promise to enter the Japanese front in return for territory in the Pacific and Asia. BUT as the conference dragged on Trumsn got more and more suspicious of the Russians over Eastern Europe as it became clear a lot of promises made prior to the conference had been bunk. Therefore the theory that he deployed the bombs to try to force the Japanese to surrender before Russia stepped in and he could thusly void he promises that had been made to get them into it-as in Bill not paid because services were not rendered. In other words it was not about saving lives and ending the war-it was the first regional power play of the Cold War. Well, appropriately, I can definitely believe that, as that's the kind of conspiracies that actually happen in Non-Crazy Land. The US's claim that conventional warfare would have caused far more deaths than nukes is questionable at best, especially considering they originally planned to drop many more, and it is based on the assumption that a land invasion would even be necessary, and that Japan would keep the war going on its own for months if not years when they didn't really have any good reason to do so. This interpretation makes a lot more sense to me. And if anybody is asking if I seriously believe the USA would willingly kill hundreds of thousands of civilians for geo-political power and personal gain, my answer is: "is this a trick question?".
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Post by Fauxnaki on Feb 12, 2019 9:40:52 GMT -5
Pizza gate
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Feb 12, 2019 16:57:45 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Suge killed him because he had no further use for him once that contract was up. Suge was in the bullet riddled car PAC got killed in and was grazed by a shot That's a LOT of faith to have in your trigger-men
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 12, 2019 18:44:45 GMT -5
I dont’ buy the whole “Ninth Gate” conspiracy theory involving Jimmy Saville. I do, however, absolutely believe that there were people in powerful places that put in a lot of leg work in his behalf, at least some of whom were probably in on his crimes themselves. But in the overwhelming majority of what he did, particularly as relates to the hospitals and schools were he committed his heinous offenses, it really just came down to him being the rainmaker and the institutions not wanting to lose all the moolah he was bringing in, so whatever accusations were made against him during his life were swept under the carpet.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Feb 12, 2019 18:47:38 GMT -5
Dogs hate humans as much as cats do, they're just better at pretending is all.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 13, 2019 2:23:36 GMT -5
Not sure if it counts, but I have noticed that in some cars it is getting harder to replace the battery. It used to just be easy as pie, just loosen the bracket, attach and reattach the terminals, and tighten the bracket. DONE! 5-10 minutes tops. Nowdays you need to first go online to find out how to remove superfluous plastic panels just to access the damn thing? And why? Well so you take your car to the stealership so they can tack on extra labor cost. And don't get me started on designed obsolescence... Not so much a conspiracy as exactly what they've done. Used to work at a lube and tire place, they've done that. It's not just cars either. I remember the first laptop I got years ago, there was a convenient and easy to open flap on the back to access the fan so you could clean or replace it. Nowadays, you pretty much have to take half the computer apart, good luck finding your way across a bunch of random metal parts, wires and circuit boards that have no business being where they are, and then putting everything back in place without destroying anything (I somehow pulled it off on my previous laptop). You're pretty much guaranteed it'll void your warranty though (not that there were many chances you'd ever be able to use it in the first place anyway).
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 13, 2019 2:55:18 GMT -5
Not so much a conspiracy as exactly what they've done. Used to work at a lube and tire place, they've done that. It's not just cars either. I remember the first laptop I got years ago, there was a convenient and easy to open flap on the back to access the fan so you could clean or replace it. Nowadays, you pretty much have to take half the computer apart, good luck finding your way across a bunch of random metal parts, wires and circuit boards that have no business being where they are, and then putting everything back in place without destroying anything (I somehow pulled it off on my previous laptop). You're pretty much guaranteed it'll void your warranty though (not that there were many chances you'd ever be able to use it in the first place anyway). My laptop doesn't even have a removable battery. Well, it does, but you literally have to remove the motherboard to get to it.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Feb 13, 2019 2:56:22 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but are you serious? You really believe that high ranking government officials ran a human trafficking/child sex ring out of a pizza parlor? And you're ok with a man going in there firing a gun trying to play hero? Genuinely curious.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 13, 2019 3:05:13 GMT -5
I dont’ buy the whole “Ninth Gate” conspiracy theory involving Jimmy Saville. I do, however, absolutely believe that there were people in powerful places that put in a lot of leg work in his behalf, at least some of whom were probably in on his crimes themselves. But in the overwhelming majority of what he did, particularly as relates to the hospitals and schools were he committed his heinous offenses, it really just came down to him being the rainmaker and the institutions not wanting to lose all the moolah he was bringing in, so whatever accusations were made against him during his life were swept under the carpet. Oh yeah, there's no way someone could keep such a vast-reaching operation without some support. The Stoke Mandeville Hospital alone is evidence of this. He basically had access to all areas of the hospital, employees called him a "sex pest" and made no less than 10 complaints, none of which was followed through on. And if that wasn't nauseating enough, the hospital gave him a bedroom in a building used to accommodate young medical students. There's no f'ing way they didn't know what they were doing. So either through money, connections or both, it's obvious a lot of people protected him and enabled him to not only hurt people, but get away with it as well, and they should be considered just as guilty as Savile himself. I'm also curious about what this "Ninth Gate" thing is about; I googled it and found nothing. Is it related to the movie of the same name, considering it was directed by fellow notorious paedophile Roman Polanski?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 13, 2019 3:31:37 GMT -5
I dont’ buy the whole “Ninth Gate” conspiracy theory involving Jimmy Saville. I do, however, absolutely believe that there were people in powerful places that put in a lot of leg work in his behalf, at least some of whom were probably in on his crimes themselves. But in the overwhelming majority of what he did, particularly as relates to the hospitals and schools were he committed his heinous offenses, it really just came down to him being the rainmaker and the institutions not wanting to lose all the moolah he was bringing in, so whatever accusations were made against him during his life were swept under the carpet. Saville was a close personal friend of Thatcher, even spending time with the family during holidays and I have little doubt that killed a lot of the desire to investigate him in the 80s by both the police and the tabloid press, and without an investigation, nobody else was willing to cover the allegations against him. To top it off, the libel system in the UK is easy to weaponise and Saville knew that and would have gone after any journalist or news agency that covered the allegations against him. I remember talking to someone who worked in Hospital radio back in the day before all this came out, I made a joke about him and how Smashy and Nicey his charidee work was and they said there were a lot of allegations about how much of a manipulative sex creep he was, so people knew... Unfortunately, something being common knowledge is some circles was not enough to prove in court without a proper police investigation, and his contacts killed that dead for the most part.
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