No Longer a Produceman
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Feb 1, 2019 20:22:13 GMT -5
New Jack for the lolz.
Serious answer, Kurt Angle. He took to the business like no one before and quickly became one of the all time greats.
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Shark
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Post by Shark on Feb 1, 2019 23:58:06 GMT -5
The thing is: Can they teach what they know? Lawler can't. He's tried before, he sucks at coaching/training. From my own observations with other sports, and I think with wrestling this still applies, it's rare when one of the true greats is able to transition into being a good teacher as well. They can't just pass on what innately made them good. Not to say none can, by all accounts HBK is a very good teacher, but I think having done it after his original retirement helped a lot. A name I'd throw out as a coach is James Storm. Solid hand in the ring and could do a promo. Always figured the original offer he got from WWE a couple years ago included a coaching spot at the PC down the line.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 2, 2019 0:59:33 GMT -5
the guy from that film who goes GARBAGE DAY
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Post by Mutant Couch on Feb 2, 2019 1:39:31 GMT -5
Once she's done Nattie is going to be an amazing trainer. That just seems to be where her talent is. It's always amused me that she seems to have better matches with the less proficient wrestlers than the ones with more ability. Although that and her not having endured any big injuries means she'll likely be around for a while still.
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Post by captainhindsite on Feb 2, 2019 5:46:10 GMT -5
For me Promo class. : paul heyman Ring psychology. : jake the snake Health : ddp Character. Work. : Taker. Or Kane In ring. : HBK. Or Brett Hart. History. : pat. Patterson. Outside. The ring pitfalls class. Flair Smart. Hardcore. : Foley.
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Sephiroth
Wade Wilson
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 2, 2019 6:33:15 GMT -5
Finally. Grizzled veteran, major influence on a lot of big careers. And a proven talent as a trainer; some of the best women WWE has ever known were produced under his tenure.
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Sephiroth
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 2, 2019 6:49:44 GMT -5
the guy from that film who goes GARBAGE DAY Teach them how to perfectly coordinate your eyebrows to every syllable you say
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Feb 2, 2019 8:05:54 GMT -5
I think Trish Stratus would be good, she could draw on her own experiences. She was pretty bad in the ring when she first started out but by the end was pretty damn good. Would be great for those coming in from non wrestling backgrounds, especially the women.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 8:06:01 GMT -5
New Jack for the lolz. Serious answer, Kurt Angle. He took to the business like no one before and quickly became one of the all time greats. Angle isn't good at putting things together though. He needs an agent big time. I wouldn't want him coaching his latter era non-psychology. Anyhow my answers are Finlay and Regal
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Post by abjordans on Feb 2, 2019 9:16:41 GMT -5
I mean, they got Shawn Michaels there.
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Post by No One on Feb 2, 2019 9:27:22 GMT -5
Punches: Shane McMahon
Promos: Great Khali
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Post by Heinz Doofenschmirtz on Feb 2, 2019 10:28:38 GMT -5
The thing is: Can they teach what they know? Lawler can't. He's tried before, he sucks at coaching/training. This is important. Being great at wrestling and being a great teacher are two very different skill sets. It pisses me off when people crap on certain trainers because ‘they never drew a dime’. How they drew has nothing to do with how they teach.
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Post by wankah on Feb 2, 2019 11:14:52 GMT -5
The thing is: Can they teach what they know? Lawler can't. He's tried before, he sucks at coaching/training. This is important. Being great at wrestling and being a great teacher are two very different skill sets. It pisses me off when people crap on certain trainers because ‘they never drew a dime’. How they drew has nothing to do with how they teach. Yeah, same thing with proper sports. I mean Maradona and Gretzky are bloody rubbish at coaching.
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TGM
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Post by TGM on Feb 2, 2019 11:16:48 GMT -5
New Jack for the lolz. Serious answer, Kurt Angle. He took to the business like no one before and quickly became one of the all time greats. Angle isn't good at putting things together though. He needs an agent big time. I wouldn't want him coaching his latter era non-psychology. Anyhow my answers are Finlay and Regal Really? I'd never head this. What are some matches Angle had where a road agent didn't put things together for him and how would you know?
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Post by dreamer75 on Feb 2, 2019 11:51:31 GMT -5
Troll Answer Bob Holly and Minuru Suzuki- you will respect DIZ BIZNEZ or die trying
Serious Answer Anyone on a legends deal should go down and do 2 or 3 day seminar at the PC every one in a while (selling with Morton or heel pacing with Jake) and if scheduled advanced enough have even some main roster talent be able to take part in
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Post by thecrusherwi on Feb 2, 2019 12:01:25 GMT -5
This is important. Being great at wrestling and being a great teacher are two very different skill sets. It pisses me off when people crap on certain trainers because ‘they never drew a dime’. How they drew has nothing to do with how they teach. Yeah, same thing with proper sports. I mean Maradona and Gretzky are bloody rubbish at coaching. Yeah that’s very common in baseball too. I think of a guy like Robin Yount. He was starting in the Major Leagues as an 18 year old kid and was one of the best hitters of his generation. Yet he’s never been an effective hitting coach. It’s hard to teach something that comes to you so naturally.
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Post by Square on Feb 2, 2019 12:14:28 GMT -5
You have to look at the now and the future, who are the best at the moment and who will be in the next 5 years. Who will rookies be looking to emulate and replace. Quackenbush, Storm, Ohno, Curt Hawkins, Pat Buck and part time Johnny Gargano and Candice LaRae would be my shouts
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 16:19:40 GMT -5
Angle isn't good at putting things together though. He needs an agent big time. I wouldn't want him coaching his latter era non-psychology. Anyhow my answers are Finlay and Regal Really? I'd never head this. What are some matches Angle had where a road agent didn't put things together for him and how would you know? Compare his matches in WWE and in TNA when they had better agents to later in his run when he had free reign and they turned into psychology-less finisher spamming. He was still technically great up until his health issues caught up with him, but the matches were poorly put together. The missed moonsault. Stolen finishers. He needed a filter. It's not a negative, that's what agents are there for. Now he's healthy, there's a possibility he'd put things together with more clarity mind.
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Post by schma on Feb 2, 2019 17:38:23 GMT -5
Finally. Grizzled veteran, major influence on a lot of big careers. And a proven talent as a trainer; some of the best women WWE has ever known were produced under his tenure. Yeah, Finlay was who I thought of immediately. I remember noticing an uptick in the quality of Divas matches when he started training them.
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Post by TGM on Feb 2, 2019 18:43:19 GMT -5
Really? I'd never head this. What are some matches Angle had where a road agent didn't put things together for him and how would you know? Compare his matches in WWE and in TNA when they had better agents to later in his run when he had free reign and they turned into psychology-less finisher spamming. He was still technically great up until his health issues caught up with him, but the matches were poorly put together. The missed moonsault. Stolen finishers. He needed a filter. It's not a negative, that's what agents are there for. Now he's healthy, there's a possibility he'd put things together with more clarity mind. Who were the better agents in WWE? What agents did TNA have around the time? Genuinely curious.
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