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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 11, 2019 3:37:12 GMT -5
The ending of How I Met Your Mother just made me think I wasted 9 years on this show The alternate ending isn't perfect, either, in part since the show just went on for too long, but I felt like it was a better conclusion. Is the alternate ending just him meeting the Mother and none of the things afterwards?
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 11, 2019 3:39:33 GMT -5
The alternate ending isn't perfect, either, in part since the show just went on for too long, but I felt like it was a better conclusion. Is the alternate ending just him meeting the Mother and none of the things afterwards? I think so, yeah, with some dialogue I don't recall being in the aired ending, but it's been years, I may just be remembering wrong. It isn't mutually exclusive from the aired ending, so if someone likes that one, they can still enjoy it, but it feels like less of a OUTTANOWHERE!! swerve.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 11, 2019 3:41:43 GMT -5
Is the alternate ending just him meeting the Mother and none of the things afterwards? I think so, yeah, with some dialogue I don't recall being in the aired ending, but it's been years, I may just be remembering wrong. It isn't mutually exclusive from the aired ending, so if someone likes that one, they can still enjoy it, but it feels like less of a OUTTANOWHERE!! swerve. I do recall seeing it not long after the aired version but my memory is hazy.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Feb 11, 2019 3:55:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I really didn't understand The Walking Dead one. That's a big well known part of the comics. You had to establish Negan as a cold hearted bastard. The people crying, "That was too far! They didn't need to do that!" What did you want or expect? On top of being a big gut punch in making you feel for one character(s) and hate the other(s), it was fake. Everybody was fine. Why bitch about it? I remember that, there were people posting about it on here that were upset. My take was that it had to be so extreme as to reasonably affect those characters in that world so profoundly. Imagine the hell they go through on a daily basis. Their ability to internalize and overcome insane and traumatic situations is by necessity incredible. So for Negan to scare them so effectively, to break them even momentarily, of the will to fight, his actions had to be that extreme. The extreme, over the top brutality wasn't for us, the audience. It was for them, the characters in an already brutal world.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 11, 2019 3:58:10 GMT -5
Spike's "redemption" in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
He attempts to rape Buffy, and it's perfectly fine, we're supposed to want to see them get together. He constantly wears the jacket of Robin's mother, whom he killed, around Robin, and apparently Robin being pissed at Spike is a bad thing. He attacked Anya because she noticed that he got his soul back. Captain Peroxide has a soul, so we should all forget about the shit he did and root for him, and want him and Buffy to get together. I felt like it wasn't until his time on Angel, that he finally started to go down a path of redemption. He stopped thinking he should get a reward, and admitted that he did some f***ed up shit, and he'll never be able to balance the scales out, but he should keep trying.
Veronica blaming Madison for her rape in Veronica Mars.
Veronica had no problem hanging out with Logan (the guy who supplied the GHB to everybody), and Dick (the one who actually spiked the drink), but Madison, oh, it was her fault. Just ignore that Madison was the intended victim, she handed the drink off to the first person she saw, and didn't know it was drugged. Hell, all the bullshit that Logan and Dick pulled, and we were supposed to forget about it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 11, 2019 4:49:19 GMT -5
I felt like it wasn't until his time on Angel, that he finally started to go down a path of redemption. He stopped thinking he should get a reward, and admitted that he did some f***ed up shit, and he'll never be able to balance the scales out, but he should keep trying. Yeah, those 20 episodes or so he was on Angel were really the only time his face turn felt earned. The episode where he tells Angel that he had to fight to get his soul back, while Angel had a soul forced on him really solidified it. Spike beats Angel for what they both believed was a key part of the prophecy and Angel would later admit that Spike wanted it more, despite it being the driving force of Angel's mission for literally the entire run of the show.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Feb 11, 2019 4:50:45 GMT -5
Maybe not so much bothers, but annoys me...is basically everything on MTV.
Teen Mom. I don't think it's about showing kids how hard it is to have a baby, but it seems like girls will think, "Hey, if I have a baby, I might get on tv!"
Any "reality" show is saying, "If you're a drunk, slut, douchebag, idiot, and troublemaker...we want to pay you to start shit."
If you have absolutely NO talent whatsoever, there will always be a home for you on MTV. Which is legit sad from what the channel used to be.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 11, 2019 5:19:29 GMT -5
When they kill somebody from the first movie really early in a sequel, I'm not talking horror films because I expect thst but talking more in other genres
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 11, 2019 5:58:16 GMT -5
When they kill somebody from the first movie really early in a sequel, I'm not talking horror films because I expect thst but talking more in other genres Yeah, like, sometimes there is a legitimate reasoning for it, like the Mortal Kombat Annihilation one with Johnny Cage being something that was out of the film maker's hands, anyway, but the way they handled it in X-3 with Cyclops was eyeroll-inducing, and I was not fond of the way it was handled in Friday the Thirteenth Part II, either, even being a horror film.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 11, 2019 6:01:43 GMT -5
When they kill somebody from the first movie really early in a sequel, I'm not talking horror films because I expect thst but talking more in other genres Yeah, like, sometimes there is a legitimate reasoning for it, like the Mortal Kombat Annihilation one with Johnny Cage being something that was out of the film maker's hands, anyway, but the way they handled it in X-3 with Cyclops was eyeroll-inducing, and I was not fond of the way it was handled in Friday the Thirteenth Part II, either, even being a horror film. The X Men was one of the ones i was thinking of along with Kingsman 2
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 11, 2019 6:02:08 GMT -5
Me and the rest of the internet, i know, but I still can't over how Darwin was killed in whatever X-Men movie that was. It was just patently not something that'd have worked like that. It'd be like if they killed Superman in a superhero film to write around him by having Luthor throw a toaster in his bath tub.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 11, 2019 6:21:03 GMT -5
Me and the rest of the internet, i know, but I still can't over how Darwin was killed in whatever X-Men movie that was. First Class. The kicker for me is that of the ten mutants to survive the movie, five of them (Emma Frost, Tempest, Azazel, Riptide, and Banshee) are killed off before the next movie even starts.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 11, 2019 7:38:38 GMT -5
Superman Red Son is a pretty interesting comic with clever ideas, until the massively stupid ending leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Feb 11, 2019 7:48:27 GMT -5
When the love interest from the first movie isn't in the sequel and it's explained why she's out of her man's life in a throwaway line that makes no sense considering how we know the character. Elisabeth Shue in Karate Kid comes to mind.
When entertainment pulls out a drinking the kool aid joke. Nothing funny about that situation whatsoever.
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Post by agent817 on Feb 11, 2019 10:35:02 GMT -5
If video games count in this discussion, I would say the finale bit to Indigo Prophecy with Carla and Lucas falling in love and getting married. I know that David Cage gets a lot of shit as a writer (and this is coming from someone who enjoyed his games, despite the flaws with the writing), and this really shows. This happened so late in the story, especially when Lucas had become resurrected and a zombie. He finally met Carla at the end and all of a sudden, she really wants some of him despite the state he was in? I know people didn't like Ethan and Madison hooking up in Heavy Rain (That entirely depended on the choice you made; I went with that choice, by the way), but I found that to be A LOT more plausible than Lucas and Carla hooking up.
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Post by chrom on Feb 11, 2019 10:44:34 GMT -5
Guy cheats, he's a dirtbag who should have his life ruined.
Girl cheats, she's an angel who's justified at what she's done.
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Post by Spider2024 on Feb 11, 2019 10:48:29 GMT -5
Guy cheats, he's a dirtbag who should have his life ruined. Girl cheats, she's an angel who's justified at what she's done. It's not that extreme. It's more like "literally anything the cheated-on girl does in retaliation is ok or justified, because the guy cheated on her".
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Feb 11, 2019 11:18:23 GMT -5
Guy cheats, he's a dirtbag who should have his life ruined. Girl cheats, she's an angel who's justified at what she's done. It's not that extreme. It's more like "literally anything the cheated-on girl does in retaliation is ok or justified, because the guy cheated on her". Yeah that can be annoying, in Me Myself and Irene I don't recall Charlie's ex wife getting any kind of punishment for cheating on him at the start.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 11, 2019 12:59:45 GMT -5
The Walking Dead. No, not Glenn or Abraham. They were meant to die. But now they're writing off characters left and right who still feature heavily in the comic. The show has basically become bad fanfic.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Feb 11, 2019 13:39:45 GMT -5
It's not that extreme. It's more like "literally anything the cheated-on girl does in retaliation is ok or justified, because the guy cheated on her". Yeah that can be annoying, in Me Myself and Irene I don't recall Charlie's ex wife getting any kind of punishment for cheating on him at the start. I think that might be even worse. Producers winking at the audience a little bit like “haha, she ends up with a midget!”
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