So Finally got a chance to watch Solo

[andrew8798]

Which to my surprise was on Netflix. Not bad at all but man the guy they got to play Young Solo I just couldn't buy into. But still a good movie

[Kevin Hamilton]

It suffered from being a perfectly fine, unspectacular little movie. In baseball terms it wasn't a homerun, but a solid base hit.

The "backlash" was always a little overblown. This was always a movie that was gonna be pretty niche and mainly for dyed in the wool Star Wars fans. Them not waiting till December of last year and instead putting 2 weeks after Infinity War hurt it as much as anything else. It's not a movie I'll revisit very often, but it's a decent enough 2 hrs.

[andrew8798]

What really hurts we won't see that Obi-Wan spinoff anytime soon

[Ryback on a Pole!]

I enjoyed it when I watched it. Personally, the only reason it flopped is because they foolishly decided to release it at such a crowded time with a number of big name movies, some of which would be attracting the same fan base as Star Wars does.

If they held off the release for, say August or something, it would have done much better.

[Kevin Hamilton]

A few months back I had a dream I was writing an Obi Wan movie in which Dave Batista was playin a bounty hunter tasked to find Kenobi on Tatooine, but then they have to team together to face a greater threat like the 80s sci fi flick Enemy/Mine.

[Goldenbane]

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They released this movie after "The Force Awakens" and by that time Han Solo was dead and gone. I didn't care after that. The past of a dead character means nothing to me, so what was the point?

[andrew8798]

Since 05 Ewan wanted that spinoff

[andrew8798]

Really the truth is Ford will always be Solo

[Kevin Hamilton]

It's not so much Han being killed off that made Solo kind of an unnecessary movie as it is Han's backstory is sort of incidental. You know all you need to know from the first Star Wars: he's a smuggler and a rogue who is good hearted despite himself. How he got the gun, won the Falcon, all that stuff is just fine left to the audience's imagination.

Spelling it out here didn't hurt anything, but it didn't add anything vital either.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Should have been a Lando movie. That's a movie that fans wanted, we didn't want a Han backstory movie. They had Lando and Obi-Wan right there for movies, but they went with a movie that nobody asked for.

[A Platypus Rave]

Feb 17, 2019 0:54:11 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

It's not so much Han being killed off that made Solo kind of an unnecessary movie as it is Han's backstory is sort of incidental. You know all you need to know from the first Star Wars: he's a smuggler and a rogue who is good hearted despite himself. How he got the gun, won the Falcon, all that stuff is just fine left to the audience's imagination.

Spelling it out here didn't hurt anything, but it didn't add anything vital either.

it's a problem the prequels had too...

a lot of the stuff really didn't need to be spelled out... or expanded upon.

[Citizen Snips Has Left]

Feb 17, 2019 0:10:56 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

Them not waiting till December of last year and instead putting 2 weeks after Infinity War hurt it as much as anything else.

It actually came out a month after Infinity War. Deadpool 2 did get released two weeks after IW and despite being another comic book movie and an R-rated one that limited its audience, still had a better debut and run than Solo. And with hindsight, if they had waited until December, it would've gotten swamped by Spiderverse and Aquaman.

What hurt it was the general audience reaction was "Nothing really happens. This dude is no Harrison Ford. Also, you can't tell what's happening in half the scenes."

[SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts]

I accepted him as a version of Han Solo, but not as the OT Han Solo. It doesn't connect, but I liked him as a character in a movie. I like the movie more than any if the other Disney SW releases.

My big criticism is the need for "include-ism" where they include everything we know about Han from 3 movies into 1. The kessel run, winning the Falcon, etc all happened to him in a few days.

[BorneAgain]

As far as the box office, the production troubles of the film became pretty well known which didn't help its pre release buzz. Plus I think there was a bit of dissonance in releasing the Last Jedi which has a strong thematic element of letting of the past while looking towards the future, and then releasing Solo, whose appeal largely lies in nostalgia. Thus many who liked TLJ might not have been interested in a SW movie playing it relatively safe while those who didn't like it might not have been inclined to think Solo would be any better.

It was the perfect storm of a movie that was probably never going to do outstanding numbers getting hit hard by contextual indifference.

[Deleted]

I liked it, aside from the Darth Maul appearance. Now when you do a chronological Star Wars marathon Darth Maul shows back up with no explanation, does nothing, and then is never seen again.

And yeah, I get that the cartoons told Maul's story but the average movie goer doesn't watch those.

[Citizen Snips Has Left]

Feb 17, 2019 9:50:09 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

I liked it, aside from the Darth Maul appearance. Now when you do a chronological Star Wars marathon Darth Maul shows back up with no explanation, does nothing, and then is never seen again.

And yeah, I get that the cartoons told Maul's story but the average movie goer doesn't watch those.

I will admit to dozing off for the last 15 minutes or so of Solo, so when I drifted back and saw Darth Maul, I just assumed I was dreaming a different Star Wars movie and nodded off again. Went home to check the TV Tropes page and found out, nope that really happened.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

Emilia Clarke in anything is the kiss of death to me.

[cabbageboy]

The whole "too much competition" thing is silly because the film still made a solid 213 million domestic. Solo's problem (and I would argue SW going forward) is that the international numbers just died. Solo made basically the same domestic money as Venom, but Venom was gangbusters overseas and finished with 855 million. Solo didn't even crack 400 million worldwide. Ant-Man and the Wasp made a similar amount domestic but did great worldwide. The latest Mission Impossible was in that ballpark too but finished with 791 million thanks to great overseas numbers. A Star is Born didn't do as great worldwide but still made slightly over 50% internationally (and the budget was only 36 million).

[SmashTV]

I watched it on a long haul flight, and it helped pass the time. I don’t think it deserved the criticism it got, but at the same time it was never going to be a classic. It was harmless and enjoyable, but not anything I’d return to see any time soon.

Incidentally, after that I put on ‘War for the Planet of the Apes’. More Woody Harrelson, which is no bad thing.

[agent817]

Feb 17, 2019 10:52:22 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

The whole "too much competition" thing is silly because the film still made a solid 213 million domestic. Solo's problem (and I would argue SW going forward) is that the international numbers just died. Solo made basically the same domestic money as Venom, but Venom was gangbusters overseas and finished with 855 million. Solo didn't even crack 400 million worldwide. Ant-Man and the Wasp made a similar amount domestic but did great worldwide. The latest Mission Impossible was in that ballpark too but finished with 791 million thanks to great overseas numbers. A Star is Born didn't do as great worldwide but still made slightly over 50% internationally (and the budget was only 36 million).

Wasn't this also a released a week after Deadpool 2? I know that there was only a week difference, but I think DP2 was doing well.