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Post by Dub H on Jun 5, 2019 16:58:37 GMT -5
Temporary Kaiju Pokemon eh? Hopefully they'll have a new Pokemon that kind of looks like Ultraman to really make that new mechanic work.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 5, 2019 18:59:12 GMT -5
Hau was fine, honestly. Cool guy, very chill, didn't piss and moan when you beat him like some rivals.
Like, if you are so desperate for someone to be a pissbaby when you beat them and say you got lucky, play online.
Gary was one-note as f*** until he came back in Gold/Silver. You have Team ____ already, you don't need to also take shit from a 10 year old you've defeated 40 times.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 5, 2019 19:17:13 GMT -5
Hau was fine, honestly. Cool guy, very chill, didn't piss and moan when you beat him like some rivals. Like, if you are so desperate for someone to be a pissbaby when you beat them and say you got lucky, play online. Gary was one-note as f*** until he came back in Gold/Silver. You have Team ____ already, you don't need to also take shit from a 10 year old you've defeated 40 times. Yeah... do we need another well you beat me this time... but like... next time I'll totally kick your ass! character? hell a lot of what people pissed and moaned about Sun and Moon was what I liked about it... it gave something that Pokemon had needed for years... a change of pace from the thing they've been doing since 98.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jun 5, 2019 19:27:38 GMT -5
Hau was fine, honestly. Cool guy, very chill, didn't piss and moan when you beat him like some rivals. Like, if you are so desperate for someone to be a pissbaby when you beat them and say you got lucky, play online. Gary was one-note as f*** until he came back in Gold/Silver. You have Team ____ already, you don't need to also take shit from a 10 year old you've defeated 40 times. As far as rivals go Hau is top two with Gladion because he is super chill and basically a tourist; Gary pretty clearly wanted you to improve so that he'd have a challenge and incentive to improve but that's never actually talked about in game, people act like he was openly antagonistic when he was just a little snot who wasn't that bad and he's slacked off in Gen2 specifically because Red isn't there as his rival. Silver was openly antagonistic and he eventually grows up but he isn't exactly nuanced like Gladion was who was clearly trying way too hard to be a badass and eventually grows up because it was a coping mechanism thanks to his abusive mum. Meanwhile you have rival characters in fan games where they're obnoxious little shits like in Uranium or gigantic pains in the ass that aren't even fun to beat up like in Reborn.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 5, 2019 19:29:29 GMT -5
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Post by Dub H on Jun 5, 2019 21:54:36 GMT -5
Hau was fine, honestly. Cool guy, very chill, didn't piss and moan when you beat him like some rivals. Like, if you are so desperate for someone to be a pissbaby when you beat them and say you got lucky, play online. Gary was one-note as f*** until he came back in Gold/Silver. You have Team ____ already, you don't need to also take shit from a 10 year old you've defeated 40 times. Yeah... do we need another well you beat me this time... but like... next time I'll totally kick your ass! character? hell a lot of what people pissed and moaned about Sun and Moon was what I liked about it... it gave something that Pokemon had needed for years... a change of pace from the thing they've been doing since 98. But ...all the rivals have been super chill and bland since gen 3. if anything having another SO HAPPY TO BE HERE. rival is the same pace always Which is why I loved gladion.He was over the top edgy in a fun way. Honestly you could take Hau out and nothing important would change much. You could just have Gideln be the rival. But the main rival.was still Hau..like just give me something to work with.Make him.cocku since his bro is the champion ,without being a douche.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 5, 2019 21:57:37 GMT -5
this gives a good insight
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 1:41:58 GMT -5
Really the biggest issues I have with the friendly rivals are...
1. It's been done way too many times.
2. It renders the rival completely pointless. They're friendly with you to start with, they're friendly at the end, and regardless of their feelings on things they're going to lose to you every time, so their character is just pointless and one-note.
3. I just find the constant overly-clingy, "Oh, we're such good friends!" to be obnoxious and desperate.
Hau is especially bad because he won't shut his damn mouth, but then that goes for pretty much everyone in Gen 7. I appreciate in theory the idea of having a more complex story but in practice you can't take two steps without having to hear a lecture about the local customs or something. I think Hau's the worst of it though because the guy just gets SO much screentime and he comes off like he's kind of obsessed with you the way he won't just leave you alone. Not that I like X & Y's friendship squad or Barry or whatever either, but Hau by far grates on me the most.
Though really I'd rather just drop the rivals entirely. The only ones I'd really say I actually like are Silver, Wally, Hugh, and if he counts N. Blue isn't bad but that's moreso going off his post-rival days.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 6, 2019 10:47:00 GMT -5
Really the biggest issues I have with the friendly rivals are... 1. It's been done way too many times. 2. It renders the rival completely pointless. They're friendly with you to start with, they're friendly at the end, and regardless of their feelings on things they're going to lose to you every time, so their character is just pointless and one-note. 3. I just find the constant overly-clingy, "Oh, we're such good friends!" to be obnoxious and desperate. Hau is especially bad because he won't shut his damn mouth, but then that goes for pretty much everyone in Gen 7. I appreciate in theory the idea of having a more complex story but in practice you can't take two steps without having to hear a lecture about the local customs or something. I think Hau's the worst of it though because the guy just gets SO much screentime and he comes off like he's kind of obsessed with you the way he won't just leave you alone. Not that I like X & Y's friendship squad or Barry or whatever either, but Hau by far grates on me the most. Though really I'd rather just drop the rivals entirely. The only ones I'd really say I actually like are Silver, Wally, Hugh, and if he counts N. Blue isn't bad but that's moreso going off his post-rival days. One issue that I have with some rivals like Hau,not exactly being friendly but you dont see how he is champion. Not only his fights are easy,he always lose,you never see him being a bad-ass or a drive to compete. Gildeon ,Blue ,the BW2 rival and Silver all show at least some competence in the story or his idea of how he is going to be the best. And N at least it made sense: You got to know him, you knew that every time he had new pokemons because he doesnt keep any,that in itself is an ability worthy of a great trainer.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jun 6, 2019 10:56:27 GMT -5
3. I just find the constant overly-clingy, "Oh, we're such good friends!" to be obnoxious and desperate. {Spoiler} {SPOILER} No one tell Lizuka that we're gonna turn on his ass when he wins the world title.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 11:50:11 GMT -5
Games are now listed as available for that online voucher program, so decent way to save $20 if you want to buy them together or buy one with Mario Maker or Fire Emblem or something.
I miiiight do that with Fire Emblem myself, but the stupid July deadline for the program in America is a turnoff.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 14:12:46 GMT -5
They announced that like Let's Go, the only Pokemon in the game will be the ones in the regional Dex and you can't transfer over ones from other games.
... Well, I've completely lost all reason to even slightly give a f*** about this game.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jun 11, 2019 14:15:13 GMT -5
They announced that like Let's Go, the only Pokemon in the game will be the ones in the regional Dex and you can't transfer over ones from other games. ... Well, I've completely lost all reason to even slightly give a f*** about this game. Wait... what? That seems like a catastrophic failure?!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 14:23:05 GMT -5
They announced that like Let's Go, the only Pokemon in the game will be the ones in the regional Dex and you can't transfer over ones from other games. ... Well, I've completely lost all reason to even slightly give a f*** about this game. Wait... what? That seems like a catastrophic failure?! People are probably just being hopeful but speculation is that it's going to be a time delay thing since they've already confirmed every Pokemon can be transferred to World, just only ones in the region's Pokedex can be transferred to Sword & Shield. ... Really HOPE that's the case because otherwise this just reeks of them being too f***ing lazy to bother to make full games anymore. Gen 7 already had enough of that feeling between the lack of a National Dex and the way it took until USUM for them to get it to a point where it actually felt like the game was halfway finished.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 14:28:02 GMT -5
Turns out they also announced that Z-moves and Mega Evolutions are both gone.
... Yeah, more and more this just looks like Gamefreak is too goddamn lazy to actually finish games anymore.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jun 11, 2019 14:32:46 GMT -5
Why did they even do Mega Evolutions? It's like they regretted doing it immediately and started cooling it off as quickly as they could.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 11, 2019 17:21:16 GMT -5
Turns out they also announced that Z-moves and Mega Evolutions are both gone. ... Yeah, more and more this just looks like Gamefreak is too goddamn lazy to actually finish games anymore. As someone that works as a developer,I will defend then ESPECIALLY on Z-Moves and Mega Evo Its something I said since Mega Evolutions were announced as items. its awful design because it makes such a immense backlog of unique and very niche items and data in the game.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 11, 2019 17:24:20 GMT -5
Why did they even do Mega Evolutions? It's like they regretted doing it immediately and started cooling it off as quickly as they could. They could just do...evolutions. It was nothing besides a gimmick.
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Post by eJm on Jun 11, 2019 17:34:23 GMT -5
As a non competitive player for the most part, I couldn’t give a damn about the extra evolution stuff. I get why people would but for me...eh.
I really do hope the Pokédex stuff is a timed thing, though. I have a lot of Pokémon that need a home in a Switch ASAP.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Jun 11, 2019 17:44:11 GMT -5
Turns out they also announced that Z-moves and Mega Evolutions are both gone. ... Yeah, more and more this just looks like Gamefreak is too goddamn lazy to actually finish games anymore. I mean both were gimmicks that didn't quite work. Mega Evos were a disaster. It would have been fine if they made it where some weaker pokemon had them to give them a boost, but that went out the window when they announced the first two megas being Charizard and Mewtwo. Not to mention the game pretty much forces you to run a mega Lucario. Z-moves were better but I still hated that only certain Pokemon could do them. At least with Dynamax it seems like every Pokemon can do it, and that's what I'm fine with.
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