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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 7, 2019 15:52:28 GMT -5
Second rate may be overstating, but he IS a choke artist. When it's all on the line, he loses, every time. Putting him up against Okada, who even in a "slump" is still rolling up the map on the company, yeah, I have no reason to believe this is "Naito's time". As for Jay White's rocket, I can't wait for the time we look back and say "Remember when New Japan made a Hot Topic cashier their champion?". It can't end quickly enough for me. So they made a new star, but doesn’t count because you don’t like that new star? I mean that’s fine to not be feeling it, but you can’t criticise them for not making new stars because they’re not making the stars you want. If you look at Jay White and see a star, man, more power to you. He's a goof.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 15:54:22 GMT -5
So they made a new star, but doesn’t count because you don’t like that new star? I mean that’s fine to not be feeling it, but you can’t criticise them for not making new stars because they’re not making the stars you want. If you look at Jay White and see a star, man, more power to you. He's a goof. Good to know.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 7, 2019 16:00:44 GMT -5
Disagree. Where is Naito a choke artist? He hasn't fought for the IWGP title since WK. He's won it once already but he's looking for the validation and cementing his legacy by beating Okada on his stage. Same way Okada beat Tana on the biggest stage
To call Naito second rate is laughable when they haven't even run this feud into the ground
Ibushi will be fine, this is Jay White time he got the rocket to his back, Ibushi will beat Naito for the IC title and get a good reign that propels him to the IWGP title next year
Second rate may be overstating, but he IS a choke artist. When it's all on the line, he loses, every time. Putting him up against Okada, who even in a "slump" is still rolling up the map on the company, yeah, I have no reason to believe this is "Naito's time". As for Jay White's rocket, I can't wait for the time we look back and say "Remember when New Japan made a Hot Topic cashier their champion?". It can't end quickly enough for me. Once again, Naito has had 2 IWGP title matches over the last few years. He's won 1 and lost one. Choke artist is nowhere near a label on him. The biggest match he has lost was the IWGP title match against Okada which everyone lose to. Hell, i'll give you his lose to Omega in the 1st round last year at the G1. The excuse you can make is both guys were on massive highs and their confidence was on all time level as that was after Omega won the IWGP title and Okada was in themiddle of his damn near 3 year reign. Otherwise, he's beat Tana at WK, beat Jericho for the title at WK, beat Minoru for the title. Choke artist would be Goto who had received like 5 title shots and lost every single one of them.
Once again you keep thinking slump means Okada has to lose every match, he's still going to win the majority but if you go back to last year when he dropped the title, he's lost when he could have went to the finals of the G1 and lost to Jay White at WK when he brought back the old gear to get his mojo back. He's losing big matches, that's his slump not some random tag or singles match to lose to Taichi which won't help him none at all.
Also how can you say they don't make new stars and then play the one they are trying to make. If you don't like it fine, but they are making a new star right now who will continue to be a star in the company
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Post by chrom on Mar 15, 2019 20:19:49 GMT -5
So any surprise entrants
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 15, 2019 20:43:04 GMT -5
None announced yet, just only got the tour dates
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Post by chrom on Mar 15, 2019 20:47:38 GMT -5
None announced yet, just only got the tour dates I meant as in predictions
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 15, 2019 21:01:30 GMT -5
None announced yet, just only got the tour dates I meant as in predictions Ohhh, as far as that goes idk. They need someone to replace Omega but I think they will potentially stay in house
Ospreay with the NEVER title at the moment and being the "giant killer" seems like he could have a shot at the G1. Chase Owens potentially
People are holding out for hope for KENTA
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 15, 2019 21:03:47 GMT -5
Just looking through the past few years, when was the last time then went away from "in house" talent for the G1, really? Rush and Marufuji in 2012?
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Post by chrom on Mar 15, 2019 21:06:37 GMT -5
Just looking through the past few years, when was the last time then went away from "in house" talent for the G1, really? Rush and Marufuji in 2012? Marufuji, Elgin and Nakajima in 2016
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 15, 2019 21:12:11 GMT -5
Just looking through the past few years, when was the last time then went away from "in house" talent for the G1, really? Rush and Marufuji in 2012? Marufuji, Elgin and Nakajima in 2016 Ah, just glazed over them. Though, should Elgin really count as "outside" talent? I mean, point taken either way, though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 3:31:08 GMT -5
Apparently the advance for g1 Dallas hasn’t been great.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 16, 2019 20:05:57 GMT -5
Apparently the advance for g1 Dallas hasn’t been great. Yeah, running such a big venue in the States in the same year that you've already got a lot of NJPW fans spending their travel dollars on going to NYC for the G1 Supercard didn't seem like the greatest plan, but I guess since Mark Cuban owns AXS he wanted them to run where his team plays. And hell, I just thought of the effect that Double or Nothing might be having on the proceedings, too; that's two big cards that many fans are likely dropping hundreds of dollars to travel for, so a third biggie is asking a lot. That said, they really do need to advertise this show more; I'm sure it'll get some more buzz and sell some more tickets after the MSG show and once the entrants are announced, but they really should be running things like, at the bare minimum, YouTube ads for tickets the way they were running ads for NJPW World prior to this past Wrestle Kingdom.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 16, 2019 22:23:21 GMT -5
Apparently the advance for g1 Dallas hasn’t been great. Kinda surprising given the wait and how long it took to get something that wasn't sold while going through the Ticketmaster BS. Then again, ticket prices are kinda crazy, especially after Ticketmaster fees, around 3x what WWE charges for floor seats alone.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 5:47:53 GMT -5
Apparently the advance for g1 Dallas hasn’t been great. Kinda surprising given the wait and how long it took to get something that wasn't sold while going through the Ticketmaster BS. Then again, ticket prices are kinda crazy, especially after Ticketmaster fees, around 3x what WWE charges for floor seats alone. The tickets are dead expensive, Dallas isn’t the attractive travel location that LA, San Fran, or New York are, there’s no card and it’s coming off the heels of a bunch of big shows where the travelling wrestling fan has already spent a load of their budget. And argubaly their biggest drawing card previously has now left the company. All these things add up and financially it could be a flop of a show which is a shame. Compare this to the Royal Quest, which has sold nearly 5000 tickets for an arena that can hold max 7000 depending on the layout. But that’s in London, with great transport links, so there are fans coming from Ireland, Germany, Denmark etc. New Japan is still very much a niche part of an already niche market. It needs to be able to pull in fans from a variety of places to get those ticket sales and this Dallas show seems to have to much working against it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 15, 2019 21:20:09 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 7, 2019 12:56:12 GMT -5
Yea, make that happen no G1 for Tama or Fale if they going pull the shit they did last year
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Post by Mozenrath on May 8, 2019 0:48:30 GMT -5
I can deal with Fale well enough, but yeah, there's no reason to put Tama in this year. I can't really think of anything he'd contribute at this point.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 2:11:10 GMT -5
No Tonga or Fale would be a godsend. Oh and please have Kojima in there, I missed him greatly last year.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 8, 2019 6:12:55 GMT -5
No Tonga or Fale would be a godsend. Oh and please have Kojima in there, I missed him greatly last year. I imagine they'd want more than one Bullet Club guy in, though. If not Fale, maybe Chase or someone?
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Post by Muskrat on May 8, 2019 7:48:11 GMT -5
No Tonga or Fale would be a godsend. Oh and please have Kojima in there, I missed him greatly last year. I imagine they'd want more than one Bullet Club guy in, though. If not Fale, maybe Chase or someone? Chase would be a good addition. He’s been having pretty damn good matches this year, I’d love to see him get an chance in G1
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