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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 20, 2019 15:59:01 GMT -5
Is Jubilee gay? I was looking at Marvel’s site for gay, bisexual and pansexual characters and the only Jubilee that was listed was one from an alternate universe. I know Bling kissed her, but I’ve been seeing sites call her ambiguously bi, etc. Psylocke kissed a girl once. (A female clone of Fantomex who Psylocke was also dating.) That came to an end when Fantomex and his clone started having sex with each other. Her bisexuality hasn’t been brought up since. I also.hate when my girlfriend starts having sex with her Male self. A common problem Some people would call this a problem, some people would call this an intriguing opportunity.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Mar 20, 2019 16:18:19 GMT -5
I was glancing at a list of extant marvel characters who are LGBT women. It's pretty short. The only ones I really knew that are available were Miss America and Moondragon. There's a katrillion X-characters: Karma, Jubilee, Pixie, Mystique, Destiny, Psylocke (really?), Bling... some of these are great characters (though I could live without ever seeing Mystique again), and awesome vampire so-cal lesbian Jubilee needs her own damn movie... but not for the MCU. Oh, and there's Karolina Dean, but the Runaways are doing fine on TV. Hm, speaking of Karolina, a grown-up Lightspeed might work in the MCU. Have there been any Power Pack cameos or anything? Is the 616 Jubilee gay? I was looking at Marvel’s site for gay, bisexual and pansexual characters and the only Jubilee that was listed was one from an alternate universe. I know Bling kissed her, but I’ve been seeing sites call her ambiguously bi, etc. Psylocke kissed a girl once. (A female clone of Fantomex who Psylocke was also dating.) That came to an end when Fantomex and his clone started having sex with each other. Her bisexuality hasn’t been brought up since. Chris Claremont is a weirdo, but wow, X-Men stuff can get real dumb without him, huh. Surprises me they'd be coy about Jubilee's sexuality, either way. It does NOT surprise me they'd be coy with Psylocke's sexuality.
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Post by FinalGwen on Mar 20, 2019 16:19:03 GMT -5
I don’t think it should be an issue. I don’t think they need to make a bi or gay character just so they have one. It should be organic and the focus should be on the story not who they’re hooking up with. I couldn’t give 2 shits if Captain Marvel was gay or if black panther was gay or if Gamora was transitioning. That doesn’t have to be a focus in the movie. Please don’t make it a focus. Make a good movie. That’s really all that should matter with comics and comic movies. Make them fun and exciting. If you wanna focus on all that other stuff make a damn drama or rom-com or something. Super hero’s should be about good vs evil and conflict. Not about their sexual orientation. Marvel films thus far that have no focus on sexual orientations or relationships: - The Avengers (Provided we don't take the Widow/Hulk stuff from later as being foreshadowed here) - Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Or was there shipteasing with Widow and Steve? Idk, but it's close enough.) Having visible and canonical LGBT characters does not detract from it being 'a good movie' or 'fun and exciting', any more than having visible and canonical straight characters does. And you could argue the strength of the good Marvel films is that rather than limiting themselves to 'This is a super hero movie so good guy punch bad guy', they explore other genres and elements of storytelling.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 20, 2019 16:58:53 GMT -5
I don’t think it should be an issue. I don’t think they need to make a bi or gay character just so they have one. It should be organic and the focus should be on the story not who they’re hooking up with. I couldn’t give 2 shits if Captain Marvel was gay or if black panther was gay or if Gamora was transitioning. That doesn’t have to be a focus in the movie. Please don’t make it a focus. Make a good movie. That’s really all that should matter with comics and comic movies. Make them fun and exciting. If you wanna focus on all that other stuff make a damn drama or rom-com or something. Super hero’s should be about good vs evil and conflict. Not about their sexual orientation. No one is clamoring for sexuality being "the focus of the movie". A gay character existing doesn't make their sexuality the focus any more than a straight character existing means their sexuality is the focus.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 20, 2019 17:15:18 GMT -5
Iron Man's romantic life was an integral part of all three of his mainline films, and popped up in Infinity War without it having to be a drama or rom-com.
It wouldn't kill them to have a gay or bi character, any more than Negasonic being gay hurt Deadpool 2 or something. (Which is to say, not at all)
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 20, 2019 19:37:38 GMT -5
And that's the way you do it, Nega&Yukio bein a couple wasn't a "thing" it was just treated like any other couple.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 20, 2019 22:15:44 GMT -5
And that's the way you do it, Nega&Yukio bein a couple wasn't a "thing" it was just treated like any other couple. And honestly it is the movie hero couple I most care a about. I didn't care much a about pepper or the stupid hulk widow story. Or even Wasp romantic plot. It is usually there because if feels like they think it is needed to be a movie. Give me more Hawkeye's family , Yukios. just romantic relations the person has ,no big hoopas.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 20, 2019 23:00:50 GMT -5
And that's the way you do it, Nega&Yukio bein a couple wasn't a "thing" it was just treated like any other couple. I love that Wade just keeps greeting her like everything's fine, no matter what the context was.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 21, 2019 9:18:09 GMT -5
And that's the way you do it, Nega&Yukio bein a couple wasn't a "thing" it was just treated like any other couple. I love that Wade just keeps greeting her like everything's fine, no matter what the context was. Her findin Wade charming while Nega just rolled her eyes was great too.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 21, 2019 14:33:51 GMT -5
Since Madison mentioned Iceman..is it official in the comics that Iceman is gay? I know that various writers have hinted he was. Yes. In a really god damned terrible and clumsy way too...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 14:39:11 GMT -5
Iron Man's romantic life was an integral part of all three of his mainline films, and popped up in Infinity War without it having to be a drama or rom-com. It wouldn't kill them to have a gay or bi character, any more than Negasonic being gay hurt Deadpool 2 or something. (Which is to say, not at all) It actually helped the movie. "I'm just surprised ANYONE would date you."is like the funniest line in the movie.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 21, 2019 23:04:10 GMT -5
I was glancing at a list of extant marvel characters who are LGBT women. It's pretty short. The only ones I really knew that are available were Miss America and Moondragon. Phyla-Vell, the other Captain Marvel? AKA the only reason we know Moondragon is lesbian? There's also former Image character Angela, as well as Power Pack member and Avengers trainee Lightspeed.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Mar 22, 2019 0:42:31 GMT -5
I also.hate when my girlfriend starts having sex with her Male self. A common problem Some people would call this a problem, some people would call this an intriguing opportunity. It just makes me think I should start reading comics.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Mar 22, 2019 1:11:45 GMT -5
I was glancing at a list of extant marvel characters who are LGBT women. It's pretty short. The only ones I really knew that are available were Miss America and Moondragon. Phyla-Vell, the other Captain Marvel? AKA the only reason we know Moondragon is lesbian? There's also former Image character Angela, as well as Power Pack member and Avengers trainee Lightspeed. Pretty sure Moondragon and Lightspeed are both bisexual. (Referencing your comment about Moondragon being a lesbian.) Not arguing, just trying to be as specific as possible. marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Bisexual_Characters
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2019 1:31:37 GMT -5
Iron Man's romantic life was an integral part of all three of his mainline films, and popped up in Infinity War without it having to be a drama or rom-com. It wouldn't kill them to have a gay or bi character, any more than Negasonic being gay hurt Deadpool 2 or something. (Which is to say, not at all) It actually helped the movie. "I'm just surprised ANYONE would date you."is like the funniest line in the movie. I could happily watch an X-Mansion sitcom starring Wade, Yukio, and Negasonic, with Colossus as the long-suffering father figure.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 22, 2019 2:08:45 GMT -5
Phyla-Vell, the other Captain Marvel? AKA the only reason we know Moondragon is lesbian? There's also former Image character Angela, as well as Power Pack member and Avengers trainee Lightspeed. Pretty sure Moondragon and Lightspeed are both bisexual. (Referencing your comment about Moondragon being a lesbian.) Not arguing, just trying to be as specific as possible. marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Bisexual_CharactersThe way she's phrasing it, pansexual may be a touch more accurate, but the overlap between bi and pan is pretty difficult to navigate even for bisexual and pansexuals, so whichever probably works.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Mar 22, 2019 15:11:08 GMT -5
I was glancing at a list of extant marvel characters who are LGBT women. It's pretty short. The only ones I really knew that are available were Miss America and Moondragon. Phyla-Vell, the other Captain Marvel? AKA the only reason we know Moondragon is lesbian? There's also former Image character Angela, as well as Power Pack member and Avengers trainee Lightspeed. I read Phyla-Vel's wiki and it's depressing. Still, sure, she could go in movies. And Lightspeed is Julie Power, who I mentioned. She's most associated with the Runaways, though, and they're on TV.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Mar 22, 2019 15:54:14 GMT -5
Phyla-Vell, the other Captain Marvel? AKA the only reason we know Moondragon is lesbian? There's also former Image character Angela, as well as Power Pack member and Avengers trainee Lightspeed. I read Phyla-Vel's wiki and it's depressing. Still, sure, she could go in movies. And Lightspeed is Julie Power, who I mentioned. She's most associated with the Runaways, though, and they're on TV. Rumors are that they’re working on a Power Pack movie. Julie is most likely going to be a child and a member of Power Pack when she enters the MCU.
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