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Post by wildojinx on Mar 22, 2019 0:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 1:01:27 GMT -5
Feels like it would've made more sense to wait and do this when what's basically the remake comes out.
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Post by schizo on Mar 22, 2019 2:20:09 GMT -5
It definally had a lot of flaws but, f*** it. I enjoyed Last Stand overall. I'll watch it all the way throught when it comes on TV
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Post by Muskrat on Mar 22, 2019 10:24:25 GMT -5
It definally had a lot of flaws but, f*** it. I enjoyed Last Stand overall. I'll watch it all the way throught when it comes on TV Re-watched all the X-Men movies about a month ago, Last Stand was much more enjoyable then I remember. It’s a mess, and definitely the worst of the original 3 but there are a lot of really cool scenes. And Frasier Beast is awesome |
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Mar 22, 2019 10:49:06 GMT -5
It's one of those ones that I enjoyed as a kid and found myself enjoying less as I became more of a fan of the comics.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 10:54:06 GMT -5
Feels like it would've made more sense to wait and do this when what's basically the remake comes out. He got an interview with the X-Men Animated Series showrunners a while back and it ran at the end of February. I think he just figured, "Eh, let's do X-Men movies next month." I'm surprised he held off on the X-movies for this long, honestly. It definally had a lot of flaws but, f*** it. I enjoyed Last Stand overall. I'll watch it all the way throught when it comes on TV Re-watched all the X-Men movies about a month ago, Last Stand was much more enjoyable then I remember. It’s a mess, and definitely the worst of the original 3 but there are a lot of really cool scenes. And Frasier Beast is awesome Pretty much what Doug's brother said on the First Viewing video that accompanied this. A mess, very fun action scenes (maybe some of the best of the trilogy), Frasier Beast is A+ I watched it a month or so ago, for the first time in years, and that was basically my takeaway too. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 22, 2019 11:28:55 GMT -5
I liked it.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 22, 2019 11:43:31 GMT -5
Wow, lots of positive feedback and memories. Were we just upset back then that we were getting Ratner instead of Singer (though of course neither name holds up now)? Upset that they killed Cyclops among other things out of spite for Marsden jumping ship? Then they gave into Halle Berry's diva demands, making her the new leader?
They did try to fit in too much in 2 hours, without the person who understood what the direction was to be. Which is probably still the most valid criticism.
Main thing i remember about X3 was they ascended The Juggernaut Bitch meme...though Deadpool 2 since outdid that with That Song.
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Post by Muskrat on Mar 22, 2019 14:49:55 GMT -5
Wow, lots of positive feedback and memories. Were we just upset back then that we were getting Ratner instead of Singer (though of course neither name holds up now)? Upset that they killed Cyclops among other things out of spite for Marsden jumping ship? Then they gave into Halle Berry's diva demands, making her the new leader? They did try to fit in too much in 2 hours, without the person who understood what the direction was to be. Which is probably still the most valid criticism. Main thing i remember about X3 was they ascended The Juggernaut Bitch meme...though Deadpool 2 since outdid that with That Song. The issue is they tried to jam way too much shit, and a lot of it very poorly executed, into 1 hour 45 minutes. And pretty much anything being built up during the first two movies is either ignored (Wolverine’s past) or paid off poorly (Scott) Combined with the asinine decision to kill or depower half the f***ing stars and it left everyone with a pretty poor taste in their mouth. It’s got Rocky V syndrome. In a vacuum, an enjoyable movie, but as part of a bigger series or narrative the flaws shine that much brighter. Not that X-Men or X2 we’re perfect, but they atleast have a solid, cohesive narrative that were clearly building to something. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 22, 2019 15:30:30 GMT -5
It's in no way good, cept for maybe Frasier Beast but it's not horrible.
They really wasted Ben Foster as Angel though. Particularly since the opening set him up as if he'd have a real impact.
Cure idea is interesting, Phoenix is interesting, they didn't fully develop either.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 22, 2019 17:06:49 GMT -5
It's in no way good, cept for maybe Frasier Beast but it's not horrible. They really wasted Ben Foster as Angel though. Particularly since the opening set him up as if he'd have a real impact. Cure idea is interesting, Phoenix is interesting, they didn't fully develop either. Angel was pretty useless as a whole and impacted nothing signficant other than the stuff with his dad. I don’t think he even interacted with the X-Men. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 17:35:34 GMT -5
I only first saw the movie a few years ago myself. I... on the whole think it's pretty crap but it's not really unwatchably bad or anything, just bland and with a lot of bungled story beats. And I couldn't really be outraged by it if only because I knew what all was coming and am not really particularly attached to the first two movies anyway.
For the record that's kind of also my opinion of Spider-Man 3. Which honestly I probably like more than I do the first one.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 22, 2019 17:42:00 GMT -5
It's in no way good, cept for maybe Frasier Beast but it's not horrible. They really wasted Ben Foster as Angel though. Particularly since the opening set him up as if he'd have a real impact. Cure idea is interesting, Phoenix is interesting, they didn't fully develop either. and the fact it was rushed out because Singer was doing Superman Returns... and James Marsden went with him so they just flat out killed Cyclops with little fanfare in like 10 minutes in. also the cure idea was a decent idea but... it was handled pretty terribly... I mean Storm yelling at Rogue that there was nothing wrong with her... I mean I think the response to that is... Easy for you to say woman who can throw lightning bolts... I can't touch people without flat out killing them. The fact that Storm didn't even seem to understand that you know not everyone sees this as a gift especially someone like Rogue seems really out of character/short sighted. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 22, 2019 18:21:11 GMT -5
It's in no way good, cept for maybe Frasier Beast but it's not horrible. They really wasted Ben Foster as Angel though. Particularly since the opening set him up as if he'd have a real impact. Cure idea is interesting, Phoenix is interesting, they didn't fully develop either. and the fact it was rushed out because Singer was doing Superman Returns... and James Marsden went with him so they just flat out killed Cyclops with little fanfare in like 10 minutes in. also the cure idea was a decent idea but... it was handled pretty terribly... I mean Storm yelling at Rogue that there was nothing wrong with her... I mean I think the response to that is... Easy for you to say woman who can throw lightning bolts... I can't touch people without flat out killing them. The fact that Storm didn't even seem to understand that you know not everyone sees this as a gift especially someone like Rogue seems really out of character/short sighted. Or Nightcrawler who goes thru life lookin like a demon. Then again he wasn't in this one, which is some bullshit |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2019 21:41:27 GMT -5
also the cure idea was a decent idea but... it was handled pretty terribly... I mean Storm yelling at Rogue that there was nothing wrong with her... I mean I think the response to that is... Easy for you to say woman who can throw lightning bolts... I can't touch people without flat out killing them. The fact that Storm didn't even seem to understand that you know not everyone sees this as a gift especially someone like Rogue seems really out of character/short sighted. The cure plot is something that could work as a season-long arc on a TV show that has the time to explore the pros and cons of both the cure and being a mutant. Being denied the possibility of physical contact with anybody without killing them is downright torturous. Logan is functionally immortal, which seems like a wonderful thing at face value, until you outlive literally everybody you love and care about. |
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Post by tms on Mar 23, 2019 9:54:49 GMT -5
Then they gave into Halle Berry's diva demands Reminds me of Samuel Jackson wanting creative control on Mace Windu, getting his own super special exclusive lightsaber, not wanting to "die like a bitch" etc. Halle was awful as Storm, which is a shame because she's (arguably) Marvel's most popular female character, at least until the MCU exploded 10 years ago. If it weren't for the fact that her powers are so similar to Thor she'd probably be even more spotlighted. |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 23, 2019 10:00:15 GMT -5
also the cure idea was a decent idea but... it was handled pretty terribly... I mean Storm yelling at Rogue that there was nothing wrong with her... I mean I think the response to that is... Easy for you to say woman who can throw lightning bolts... I can't touch people without flat out killing them. The fact that Storm didn't even seem to understand that you know not everyone sees this as a gift especially someone like Rogue seems really out of character/short sighted. The cure plot is something that could work as a season-long arc on a TV show that has the time to explore the pros and cons of both the cure and being a mutant. Being denied the possibility of physical contact with anybody without killing them is downright torturous. Logan is functionally immortal, which seems like a wonderful thing at face value, until you outlive literally everybody you love and care about. Being able to shoot lasers from your eyes is cool, but kinda crappy when you realize you can’t function without special glasses that prevent said lasers from being out of control. |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Mar 23, 2019 11:11:47 GMT -5
For the record that's kind of also my opinion of Spider-Man 3. Which honestly I probably like more than I do the first one. Off-topic, but I rewatched the Raimi Trilogy a couple years ago and while 3 is a really bad movie, it's a much more enjoyable watch than the mopefest the first 2 are. |
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Post by Shark on Mar 23, 2019 18:09:55 GMT -5
A couple years ago, I found a blu ray collection of all of the movies sans DOFP and decided to watch the movies in a cut up method. So I started with First Class, then watched Origins: Wolverine, X-Men 1, 2, 3, The Wolverine and then DOFP and it was an interesting experience.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 23, 2019 19:42:43 GMT -5
also the cure idea was a decent idea but... it was handled pretty terribly... I mean Storm yelling at Rogue that there was nothing wrong with her... I mean I think the response to that is... Easy for you to say woman who can throw lightning bolts... I can't touch people without flat out killing them. The fact that Storm didn't even seem to understand that you know not everyone sees this as a gift especially someone like Rogue seems really out of character/short sighted. The cure plot is something that could work as a season-long arc on a TV show that has the time to explore the pros and cons of both the cure and being a mutant. Being denied the possibility of physical contact with anybody without killing them is downright torturous. Logan is functionally immortal, which seems like a wonderful thing at face value, until you outlive literally everybody you love and care about. I guess Rogue could get one of those full body condoms like in Naked Gun. |
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