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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 15, 2019 0:57:33 GMT -5
I don't want to judge Tony too bad, just since wasn't he in dire straits in that period? I do remember that he ended up losing most of his money from his peak, if not all of it, due to crumbling under the pressure. I get if the guy just didn't have many options. Dude was homeless at one point... that was apparently the reason for the Saba Simba run if memory serves. Vince was trying to help him out.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Apr 15, 2019 1:44:18 GMT -5
I enjoyed the 1st episode and am looking forward to many more. As others have said there was no new info in the 1st episode but it was a fun watch and nice to see a main stream news outlet report on theses topics. Keep in mind the audience Vice is likely looking for know nothing about any of these fascinating stories.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Apr 15, 2019 1:46:13 GMT -5
What's sadder (and wasnt touched upon) is that when Liz left Savage, she tried to distance herself away from wrestling at first. She briefly did some broadcasting work for ESPN, but then started working at a fashion boutique. I dont know why she came back. I wish they had included this info too. I never knew Liz worked for ESPN. Does footage exist?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 17:45:47 GMT -5
I’m watching the Brody episode. At the beginning Abdullah still keeping Kayfabe is pathetic.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 17:47:12 GMT -5
The fork spot is fake Abby. You never stabbed Brody.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 17:50:43 GMT -5
Damn Brody’s kid is just like him just clean shaven. And his wife interview is heartbreaking.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 17:56:41 GMT -5
Dutch and Atlas confirmed the stuff that happened in the wwwf. That’s cool.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 17:59:15 GMT -5
David Manning was the booker for wccw? I thought he only reffed and Hart booked.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 18:39:18 GMT -5
This line got me
Dutch: Fans thought wrestling was real and that Jose acted in self defense.
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 15, 2019 18:40:07 GMT -5
I’m watching the Brody episode. At the beginning Abdullah still keeping Kayfabe is pathetic. What specifically did he say that kept kayfabe? I've always been fascinated with Abdullah.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 18:44:53 GMT -5
I’m watching the Brody episode. At the beginning Abdullah still keeping Kayfabe is pathetic. What specifically did he say that kept kayfabe? I've always been fascinated with Abdullah. That he beat you up with Karate and Jiu Jitsu and that he stabbed the other guys. It was a gimmick he never stabbed anyone, he even explained how to do the fork spot in a shoot interview. He doesn’t comes well across the whole documentary. Oh and at the end of the documentary? They showed that Invader 1 gets booked for birthday parties for children...f*** wrestling.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 18:47:06 GMT -5
Brody’s son at the end implies that he wants to kill Gonzalez.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 15, 2019 18:55:13 GMT -5
I guess I’ll give my thoughts now since other people are seeing the episode and they’re posting here. Abdullah came off insincere to me. I have serious doubts that he was really Brody’s friend. I think he lied about being in that meeting that Tony Atlas talked about. The way he broke the news of Brody’s passing to his family was done in such a nonchalant way. It felt like he didn’t care much about it. I don’t know if he was involved in his murder but I definitely think he knows more than he admits to. Maybe I’m wrong but he just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2019 19:42:02 GMT -5
I guess I’ll give my thoughts now since other people are seeing the episode and they’re posting here. Abdullah came off insincere to me. I have serious doubts that he was really Brody’s friend. I think he lied about being in that meeting that Tony Atlas talked about. The way he broke the news of Brody’s passing to his family was done in such a nonchalant way. It felt like he didn’t care much about it. I don’t know if he was involved in his murder but I definitely think he knows more than he admits to. Maybe I’m wrong but he just rubbed me the wrong way. I thought so too. It’s just that there’s a second where he lies about not attending the meeting post murder because he owned five percent of wwc.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Apr 15, 2019 20:08:49 GMT -5
I don't want to judge Tony too bad, just since wasn't he in dire straits in that period? I do remember that he ended up losing most of his money from his peak, if not all of it, due to crumbling under the pressure. I get if the guy just didn't have many options. Dude was homeless at one point... that was apparently the reason for the Saba Simba run if memory serves. Vince was trying to help him out. It was cool of Vince to help him out, but did he have to give him the Saba Simba gimmick!?
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 15, 2019 21:19:25 GMT -5
Dude was homeless at one point... that was apparently the reason for the Saba Simba run if memory serves. Vince was trying to help him out. It was cool of Vince to help him out, but did he have to give him the Saba Simba gimmick!? I wouldn't have gone with *that* gimmick, but he had to give him something. He'd been a big star, not to take anything away from him, but he was years removed from that in a pre-internet age for most people, and nostalgia acts at the time didn't really fly for the most part. Foley put it best when talking about the woes of the Road Warriors in the Attitude era, when he was talking about how nervous he was about if fans would buy Cactus Jack as a threat to Triple H in a way Mankind no longer was, that "used to be" didn't mean much in wrestling, and that they had gone from main eventers all over the country to locker room punchlines. I don't really know how much reverence Tony Atlas would have conjured at that time.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 17, 2019 20:39:14 GMT -5
Somehow the episode on the Montreal Screwjob has turned into Cornette vs. Russo.
Corny has now admitted that he came up with the idea to screw Bret.
but now Russo says that he came up with it...
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Post by marvelocity on Apr 17, 2019 20:44:26 GMT -5
I've heard Russo claim he was responsible, but I've never heard it was Cornette's idea.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 17, 2019 20:54:45 GMT -5
I've heard Russo claim he was responsible, but I've never heard it was Cornette's idea. Cornette has mentioned it on his podcast before. He didn’t make a big deal of it though.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 17, 2019 21:00:46 GMT -5
I know these interviews were taped a while ago. Maybe Cornette revealed it here first and talked about it on his podcast later? They made this out to be some grand reveal here. But then again who knows.
Scott Hall still thinks it's a work apparently.
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