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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Apr 15, 2019 9:46:19 GMT -5
My understanding of streaming services like Netflix or Amazon Prime was that you could pay for these so you could watch everything you want.
It seems that now everyone is getting on the stream bandwagon it is slowly turning into if you want to watch certain things you need this particular streaming service, which to me sounds like TV channels except with choice of when you watch it. This kind of defeats the benefits of these things in the first place especially as I am mainly interested in films not TV shows.
Thoughts?
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 15, 2019 9:53:48 GMT -5
You can find anything on those services for free anyway so I don’t see the point in paying for them.
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Post by JIMBOB on Apr 15, 2019 9:56:40 GMT -5
I think the convenience of on-demand and depending on what content is worth the price. With streaming services and YouTube I rarely watch traditional TV outside of WWE and the news.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Apr 15, 2019 9:58:02 GMT -5
That’s pretty much it. At first these streaming services felt like a replacement for cable because instead of all these channel/network packages you had pretty much all the content shared between like three places, Amazon, Netflix, and Hulu(and of course the little battle between Crunchyroll and FUNimation for anime).
Then you had the big telecommunication/TV networks(frighteningly, as time went on during this era these basically became one and the same since the telecom companies own pretty much all the TV channels/networks that aren’t part of the Disney Empire now) noticing, “Wait, no one’s buying our bullshit cable packages anymore. It’s all streaming services now. We gotta get in on this.”
And slowly but surely they’ve started carving up the market, introducing their own services, and in the process removing their content from the existing services to help bolster their own lineups, which is kind of foolhardy as only Disney really had the library vast enough to get away with this.
So now streaming services are the new cable. Give it time and some of these services might start bundling together for one nominal fee, following AT&T’s VRV service(which bundles Crunchyroll, Rooster Teeth, Shudder, and a bunch of other smaller services for only like $10 a month). There’s already a sort ground work for this in place with both Hulu and Amazon, who allow you to add on the premium cable networks’ streaming services(HBO, Showtime, Starz, etc.) for additional cost on top of what you pay for Hulu or Amazon.
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Post by Paul on Apr 15, 2019 10:29:20 GMT -5
Their point is to make money which they do.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 15, 2019 10:30:47 GMT -5
Eventually some bigger company is going to bundle all these services and give you a combined rate so you can access them all, they'll call them channels and then... Oh...
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Post by thetower52 on Apr 15, 2019 10:48:18 GMT -5
Eventually some bigger company is going to bundle all these services and give you a combined rate so you can access them all, they'll call them channels and then... Oh... But if I can still watch what ever the f*** I want when I want and hopefully not have to deal with commercials I can deal with it. |
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Post by eJm on Apr 15, 2019 12:29:41 GMT -5
I feel like the big difference between what you're describing and what it is like in other countries is that, simply put, the model of things being available on one service was never realistic in the first place as much.
On the one hand, companies have to come up with ways of getting people to their service so Netflix had exclusives or commissions you couldn't find anywhere else to entice people to watch the service over just watching the stuff you'd watch on TV...just on normal TV. Or DVRing it.
But the big one for me is international rights and how slow moving they can be. For example, as someone from Europe (categorised as UK and Ireland), we do not have DC Universe, CBS All Access or Hulu so the shows on there either have to wait for a UK network to pick them up or for one of the big two of Netflix and Amazon Prime to get them. As an example, Titans, Black Lightning, Star Trek Discovery and even network shows like The Good Place are all considered "Netflix Originals" because either no channel will pick them up or because there's already a deal in place to get those shows on Netflix internationally. But even then, other shows on those services (The Twilight Zone, Young Justice: Outsiders etc) haven't got any kind of UK and Ireland distribution deal so we have no means to get to those shows except a) hoping something gets sorted out or b) piracy (this isn't me advocating it at all, that's just the reality).
And sure, stuff is way easier to access then it once was (Sky has deals with HBO and Disney so using their own service, you can watch GoT as soon as and every Marvel movie mere months after cinema release) and there's less of the "Wow, we just got this show except it got cancelled in the US so what's the point?" stuff there once was but...yeah, we're nowhere near the point of even getting where the Americans are, never mind concerned about how many streaming services there are.
We don't even have VRV yet. You assholes get all the Nicktoons on Demand and we have to actually WATCH Nickelodeon for that stuff. *Hmphf*
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Apr 15, 2019 12:30:59 GMT -5
Eventually some bigger company is going to bundle all these services and give you a combined rate so you can access them all, they'll call them channels and then... Oh... But if I can still watch what ever the f*** I want when I want and hopefully not have to deal with commercials I can deal with it. You can watch what they allow us to watch... but yeah, commercial free is best. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 12:32:25 GMT -5
We don't even have VRV yet. You assholes get all the Nicktoons on Demand and we have to actually WATCH Nickelodeon for that stuff. *Hmphf* If it's any consolation VRV's Nick lineup absolutely sucks. You have a whopping nine shows and among them are Rocket Power, Unfabulous, and Zoey 101. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 15, 2019 12:32:28 GMT -5
People wanted a la carte cable for years. The different streaming services are like a la carte cable.
You can sign up for a month if the thing you want to watch is on a different services. Nobody is making anyone sign up for Netflix, Prime, Hulu, Disney+ and anything else all at the same time.
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Post by eJm on Apr 15, 2019 12:33:47 GMT -5
We don't even have VRV yet. You assholes get all the Nicktoons on Demand and we have to actually WATCH Nickelodeon for that stuff. *Hmphf* If it's any consolation VRV's Nick lineup absolutely sucks. You have a whopping nine shows and among them are Rocket Power, Unfabulous, and Zoey 101. I'd take even the IDEA of watching Zoey 101 on demand, dude! |
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Apr 15, 2019 16:27:41 GMT -5
So now streaming services are the new cable. Give it time and some of these services might start bundling together for one nominal fee, following AT&T’s VRV service(which bundles Crunchyroll, Rooster Teeth, Shudder, and a bunch of other smaller services for only like $10 a month). There’s already a sort ground work for this in place with both Hulu and Amazon, who allow you to add on the premium cable networks’ streaming services(HBO, Showtime, Starz, etc.) for additional cost on top of what you pay for Hulu or Amazon. Not even close. The equivalent now is these streaming services are like an all you can eat buffett,except some buffets don't have Indian Food and some Indian Buffets don't have beef,and the all you can eat Pizza Buffet only has Pizza,salad and breadsticks. With cable even if you never eat pizza you are paying for a Pizza Buffet,Indian Food Buffett etc. Like in sports right fee's just from ESPN alone you are paying almost $10 in cable if you never watch sports,that doesn't even take into account your local team(s) probably have a hefty carriage fee as well. The main streaming services all have tens of thousands of hours of tv and movie show. It's probably annoying to some costumers to kind of navigate which shows are where,but in terms of purchasing power as of now you have more bang for your buck and if your willing to just rotate streaming services throughout the year and schedule around your favorite shows it's still incredibly cost effective and gives you's endless watching options. If cable were like streaming,you would have $0 sports carriage fee's,but sports fan would have the option for a sports streaming package or a Sport's add on of X dollars a month to amazon or hulu |
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Post by Convoy on Apr 15, 2019 16:31:33 GMT -5
I already dumped Netflix. If Disney can get their live basketball up to par using ESPN/Hulu packages, then I'll lose cable ASAP. The only holdout there is Turner's broadcasting of games.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 15, 2019 16:40:03 GMT -5
Eventually some bigger company is going to bundle all these services and give you a combined rate so you can access them all, they'll call them channels and then... Oh... But if I can still watch what ever the f*** I want when I want and hopefully not have to deal with commercials I can deal with it. I wouldn't hold my breath on that; part of cable's initial allure was that paying for TV every month should've meant commercial-free (or at least greatly reduced) channels, but that's gone the way of the dodo outside of premium channels like HBO. I imagine it's only a matter of time before streaming so fractures the traditional structure of cable that to make up the budget shortfalls a bunch of these services resort back to ads. In the meantime, things are getting a little out of hand; I've MLB.tv (but still have cable thanks to stupid local blackout rules), Netflix, Prime, and NJPW World, but we might be at a point soon where combined streaming could cost more than what a lot of us were paying for cable in the first place. Remains to be seen, though. |
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Post by metylerca on Apr 15, 2019 20:25:13 GMT -5
Isn't there already a Chrome add-on that compiles all your streaming subs into one UI? It's been a couple years since I last heard about it, so it may be gone now.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Apr 15, 2019 21:46:43 GMT -5
My understanding of streaming services like Netflix or Amazon Prime was that you could pay for these so you could watch everything you want. It seems that now everyone is getting on the stream bandwagon it is slowly turning into if you want to watch certain things you need this particular streaming service, which to me sounds like TV channels except with choice of when you watch it. This kind of defeats the benefits of these things in the first place especially as I am mainly interested in films not TV shows. Thoughts? I cancelled them all because to get everything I want, I pay MORE than cable. Most TV subscriptions come with on demand versions of those channels I can just use anyways |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 16, 2019 6:33:39 GMT -5
People wanted a la carte cable for years. The different streaming services are like a la carte cable. You can sign up for a month if the thing you want to watch is on a different services. Nobody is making anyone sign up for Netflix, Prime, Hulu, Disney+ and anything else all at the same time. Exactly, it is like some people don’t get the basis of consumerism. You vote with your dollars and if you don’t like something then you don’t pay for it. I remember Cracked had another one of their, “5 Reasons You Had No Idea You’re An Idiot” articles. The writer made some comment like, “Now you get x,y, and z streaming services and you’re paying $200, more than you ever paid with cable.” No. No I’m not. |
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Apr 16, 2019 6:45:06 GMT -5
People wanted a la carte cable for years. The different streaming services are like a la carte cable. You can sign up for a month if the thing you want to watch is on a different services. Nobody is making anyone sign up for Netflix, Prime, Hulu, Disney+ and anything else all at the same time. Exactly, it is like some people don’t get the basis of consumerism. You vote with your dollars and if you don’t like something then you don’t pay for it. I remember Cracked had another one of their, “5 Reasons You Had No Idea You’re An Idiot” articles. The writer made some comment like, “Now you get x,y, and z streaming services and you’re paying $200, more than you ever paid with cable.” No. No I’m not. Constantly switching different streaming services is not convenient. (That's up there with the irritation of comparing electric suppliers or car insurance to get a better deal.) |
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