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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 12:40:01 GMT -5
The WWE is one of the most unlikable companies I have ever seen.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 25, 2019 12:44:54 GMT -5
They can't just release him guys. Who else are they going to have on Main Event once every six weeks?
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Apr 25, 2019 13:14:03 GMT -5
I think it's now up to Harper to get TV time and cut a Geto Boys verse instead of a promo
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 25, 2019 13:32:43 GMT -5
Can someone get #freelukeharper trending on Twitter, please?
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 25, 2019 13:40:42 GMT -5
They can't just release him guys. Who else are they going to have on Main Event once every six weeks? Or as one half of an unbeaten tag team that wins the titles on Smackdown, only losing them due to injury? I think Harper's potential hasn't been fully explored, and can only assume that someone has told him they don't plan to do anything with him in the immediate future, but let's not pretend he's never had any opportunities. There are guys on the roster who would kill to have been given the chances he's had.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 25, 2019 13:44:25 GMT -5
Man... this is one of the few “FXXX WWE” outrages I actually agree with. Free the man if you don’t have plans.
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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 25, 2019 14:06:45 GMT -5
This is going to be how the WWE does business from now on, and it sucks. Because he brought out his feelings to the public, he's going to sit at home for a year not doing what he loves. Just to be an example. Punishing anyone for speaking their mind truthfully, as long as it hurts no one else, is honestly bullshit to me, especially if you're stuck doing something you don't want to do anymore and your company has no solid plans for you.
Honestly, if I were Luke, I'd take that time and use it well. Take their money, Heal up, get in even better shape, and look towards next year as a new start to his career. Hopefully the wrestling world will be ready for him by then.
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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 25, 2019 14:09:31 GMT -5
Dave Meltzer in the Observer Newsletter says that WWE have not granted Harper his release, and have added another six months onto his contract due to his injury, so his contract won't be up until WrestleMania next year. Some have painted this as a reaction to him making his request for a release public, probably as a way to dissuade talent from doing something like that in future. So to help overall roster morale, instead of letting someone go who feels like he won’t get anything beneficial before his contract ends, who you know you won’t do anything with at that time since he hasn’t been injured in months, you...instead keep paying him for that year....so that...he feels worse? What? I'm beginning to suspect that their willingness to fix their morale problem is becoming something they're not that willing to fix at all.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 25, 2019 14:09:34 GMT -5
There's a good deal of irony in the WOL report that WWE partly moved Almas, Vega, and Black back to SD so that they don't look like the "bad guy promotion" by splitting up couples, only to then take a 40 year old father they're doing nothing with and have no plans for and invoke a ridiculous, borderline unlawful contract clause to make sure he can't do anything for the rest of the year. The key word is "contract". If he has dates left over because of his time out injured, yeah, they can toll his contract. No, it doesn't engender good will or high morale, and it's not a nice move, but they can do it. Whenever I see someone justify the way WWE does business, I have to laugh. Do you know what an independent contractor is? Do you know what an unconscionable contract is? Do you know what unfair contract terms are? Have you ever even litigated a contract bro? "Keyword is contract." They're petty, they negotiate from a place of power imbalance, after years of creating a monopoly, buying favor in the halls of politics, so they can crush people like Luke Harper who just want out of a bad work situation, who just want to support their family. Oh, and they have so many of their expert business fans who think that it's perfectly ok and they're within their "rights" to do this. Bet you would sing a different tune if it was you. Dude, I agree that this is beyond scummy on WWE's part (and think that a proper legal challenge, in the right venue, could show their actions to be illegal), but chill out when talking to fellow posters.
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Post by realist on Apr 25, 2019 14:12:58 GMT -5
This is just a complete bully move on the part of WWE. However, there is one possible bright side to this. Luke Harper will be getting paid during this time and hopefully can use it to rest his body and allow nagging injuries to heal. I doubt hitting a Michinoku Driver from the apron to the floor is good for one's back.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 25, 2019 14:24:09 GMT -5
At least with Mysterio I remember the reason is thag they wanted him under contract because they still wanted to use his likeness to sell merch,games,toys,etc.
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Post by nisidhe on Apr 25, 2019 14:30:46 GMT -5
If Creative has nothing for Harper, then the only reason it would make sense for WWE to keep him on is to keep him from going to AEW where he can probably go over big as a hoss character and help them cut into WWE's ratings and market share. They also have time on their side. Harper at 39 is on the other half of his career and would need to make a splash very soon to create another spike for himself.
That said, others in the locker room are watching and some have contract renewals coming up. WWE could be shooting themselves in the foot if they try to make an example out of Harper.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 25, 2019 14:34:38 GMT -5
If Creative has nothing for Harper, then the only reason it would make sense for WWE to keep him on is to keep him from going to AEW where he can probably go over big as a hoss character and help them cut into WWE's ratings and market share. They also have time on their side. Harper at 39 is on the other half of his career and would need to make a splash very soon to create another spike for himself. That said, others in the locker room are watching and some have contract renewals coming up. WWE could be shooting themselves in the foot if they try to make an example out of Harper. I really think this is more about Sasha than anything else. If she wasn't sitting out, wanting her release, I think they might (keyword : "might") actually let Harper go. But now, if they let him go, they'd also have to let Sasha go, and they're just not going to do that.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Apr 25, 2019 14:37:46 GMT -5
They can't just release him guys. Who else are they going to have on Main Event once every six weeks? Or as one half of an unbeaten tag team that wins the titles on Smackdown, only losing them due to injury? I think Harper's potential hasn't been fully explored, and can only assume that someone has told him they don't plan to do anything with him in the immediate future, but let's not pretend he's never had any opportunities. There are guys on the roster who would kill to have been given the chances he's had. He was a featured player in the Wrestlemania feud for the WWE title and was performing at the same level as the two guys in the match, and his thanks was a bullshit spot in the pre-show battle royale. He kept hitting against the glass ceiling, and part of him getting through was his terrible luck with injuries but also he wasn't given the chances when healthy.
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Post by KofiMania on Apr 25, 2019 15:29:24 GMT -5
The key word is "contract". If he has dates left over because of his time out injured, yeah, they can toll his contract. No, it doesn't engender good will or high morale, and it's not a nice move, but they can do it. Whenever I see someone justify the way WWE does business, I have to laugh. Do you know what an independent contractor is? Do you know what an unconscionable contract is? Do you know what unfair contract terms are? Have you ever even litigated a contract bro? I’m well aware of what an independent contractor is and it is perfectly acceptable to have an independent contractor be exclusive to one company in their industry for a specific amount of time. To say the tolling is unconscionable is a leap, though I’d have to see the exact terms of the agreement. That’s an extremely high burden to prove unconscionability.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 25, 2019 18:06:01 GMT -5
Man... this is one of the few “FXXX WWE” outrages I actually agree with. Free the man if you don’t have plans. Yeah, I am something close to a WWE apologist and this is pretty gross.
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Post by Spider2024 on Apr 25, 2019 18:35:51 GMT -5
They can't just release him guys. Who else are they going to have on Main Event once every six weeks? Primo or Epico. (Not "and", "or".)
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 25, 2019 18:40:38 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to see how well the adding six months thing would hold up in court. It might depending on the contract's language etc;Just be interesting to see how hard they'd fight if pressed in it.
Either way, douchey thing to do.
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Post by TGM on Apr 25, 2019 18:46:59 GMT -5
I'm wwe and I hate money
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 25, 2019 18:51:47 GMT -5
Don't want to cut him loose... ok...
THEN USE HIM!
I'm sure if you actually did stuff with him he wouldn't want to leave.
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