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Post by toodarkmark on Apr 18, 2019 20:23:31 GMT -5
Watch the same people who say Meltzer is in bed with AEW also say they trust the Wrap more. Internet!
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Post by AwamoriRock on Apr 18, 2019 21:09:40 GMT -5
Watch the same people who say Meltzer is in bed with AEW also say they trust the Wrap more. Internet! I'm not saying either are true and don't know exactly why people are getting so worked up about either possibility, but that's not the best argument to use for Meltzer--he can champion them a ton and still be wrong about them or get mislead by them.
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Post by toodarkmark on Apr 18, 2019 21:12:50 GMT -5
Watch the same people who say Meltzer is in bed with AEW also say they trust the Wrap more. Internet! I'm not saying either are true and don't know exactly why people are getting so worked up about either possibility, but that's not the best argument to use for Meltzer--he can champion them a ton and still be wrong about them or get mislead by them. Why wouldnt Meltzer know the truth?
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Post by honsou on Apr 18, 2019 21:19:41 GMT -5
I'd honestly be really surprised if this were true, if only because what they are offering is the one thing cable companies really want which is live programing. Also you'd think AEW would just choose to go on a slightly lesser known station rather than actively pay for time on a station
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Post by corndog on Apr 19, 2019 0:56:13 GMT -5
I don't get why people are upset if they are paying for the time slot. AEW has already shown they aren't afraid to spend money to make money. This is a great way to get exposure and if it's popular it could lead to them getting a paid deal.
As far as Meltzer, I will be that guy. He's compromised and has been since the "wrestlers are unhappy in New Japan" story. Sure wrestlers left, mostly the BTE cast, but gaijins do that, they get sick of traveling to Japan. If Omega was so unhappy, why did he have a clause in his AEW contract to work New Japan? It was all a work that played in the BTE stories leading to the announcement of AEW.
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Post by timelimitdraw on Apr 19, 2019 11:28:45 GMT -5
The only reason why I believe AEW may be trying to pursue a deal with a rights fee is because I've heard that MLW is getting a rights fee, but it's also for BeIn Sports, which isn't in a lot of homes, is struggling to grow their audience, and probably isn't paying a lot for the show.
If they want to play with a large group like WarnerMedia and paying outright or bartering for the airtime are their only options, they have to determine whether to try for a smaller network that'll pay or take a calculated risk where the potential gains are larger than their losses.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 11:40:57 GMT -5
I don't get why people are upset if they are paying for the time slot. AEW has already shown they aren't afraid to spend money to make money. This is a great way to get exposure and if it's popular it could lead to them getting a paid deal. I think a lot of people have high hopes that AEW really shakes things up, so the more stuff like this that comes out that makes AEW seem less of a sure thing and more of a gamble gives the whole operation a certain tension that's uncomfortable. It's gonna be a gamble regardless of if they're paying networks or networks are paying them, but I think fans who want AEW to be everything it promises to be, would like to think they're on a network that actually wants what they're selling just for some sense of security about the whole thing.
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Post by corndog on Apr 19, 2019 11:47:09 GMT -5
I don't get why people are upset if they are paying for the time slot. AEW has already shown they aren't afraid to spend money to make money. This is a great way to get exposure and if it's popular it could lead to them getting a paid deal. I think a lot of people have high hopes that AEW really shakes things up, so the more stuff like this that comes out that makes AEW seem less of a sure thing and more of a gamble gives the whole operation a certain tension that's uncomfortable. It's gonna be a gamble regardless of if they're paying networks or networks are paying them, but I think fans who want AEW to be everything it promises to be, would like to think they're on a network that actually wants what they're selling just for some sense of security about the whole thing. This company just started and hasn't even put a show out yet. Wrestling is not anywhere near as popular as it was in the late 90s/early 2000s, major networks are not demanding wrestling content. The fact that AEW could just get on a channel as big as TBS/TNT is a big deal and could lead them into mainstream popularity. AEW has a lot of talk amongst wrestling fans, but outside of that bubble it isn't a big deal and there will be some reluctance from mainstream media until there is actual proof they can draw a television audience. As far as being a gamble, considering they have spent so far, it is certainly a gamble. This is something that most likely won't be in the black for a few years and with the money already spent, it will be need to successful.
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Post by toodarkmark on Apr 22, 2019 2:38:50 GMT -5
"Checked back in with an AEW/Turner negotiations source. Person still believes any hefty rights fee is “highly unlikely." A "time-buy" could also just be worked out via adjusted ad rev split. Lots of ways to account for TV money, as we know. (Complex) negotiations continue." - Tony Maglio
So the guy who spread this rumor, that got so many AEW detractor's excited, is back tracking here. His source says that a "heft rights fee", a subjective notion, is "highly unlikely." So also likely? Could be? And now buying time is a revenue split? Goal post moving.
The reason this drives me nuts is I see people in other forums saying "AEW sucks, they have to pay for their TV spot." Now its just some fact to people, even tho Maglio pretty much can't back up what he said.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Apr 22, 2019 3:11:51 GMT -5
I say this as somebody who doesn't believe AEW is going to be the pro-wrestling utopia that sends Vince out of business... what difference does this make?
Wrestling fans being armchair bookers is one thing, armchair accountants seems to be taking it all a bit too far. I get that being on a larger network will give them more kudos and will help them sign talent, but beyond that, how they get there seems irrelevant. Unless it's your money.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 8:54:08 GMT -5
Everyone buy an AEW shirt right now to help pay the bills.
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