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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 18:32:14 GMT -5
I like her. Her persona is very unlike anything we've seen in women's wrestling. I think she's endure pretty well post WrestleMania. My big fear was that she'd enter "top guy" mode where she'd develop a terrible sense of humor and becoming more comedy based. Thankfully she's retaining her tough girl attitude.
I don't know if she'll get as hot as she was preWrestlemania. A big part of that is the women's roster doesn't seem rich enough to keep her fed with hot feuds.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 18:33:15 GMT -5
They're all in on it (maybe not Ronda). Just a couple days before Becky made fun of Alexa on Twitter and Alexa replied, Alexa did an interview talking about how much she loves Becky's Twitter and how funny she finds it. It's fair for people to say the tweets make them like her character less, but character work is all it is. Anyway, I've always said the one thing they can do to get me to completely turn on Becky is to have Conor McGregor show up and be in her corner for a match. Hopefully that won't happen anytime soon. Nah, Ronda is in on it too. She's just really bad at it. It's all part of the show, and the WWE wouldn't let it continue if it wasn't. I agree about McGregor. That guy is a scumbag who will be looking to grab whatever last vestiges of fame he can. Thankfully, she seems to be distancing herself from him a bit. Obviously she's copied him in several ways, but I have to believe she's been paying attention to what's been going on with him lately. She said she's fine with people hating her as long as they're interested in what she's doing, but that ain't the kind of hate she should be going for.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 23, 2019 18:52:44 GMT -5
Nah, Ronda is in on it too. She's just really bad at it. It's all part of the show, and the WWE wouldn't let it continue if it wasn't. I agree about McGregor. That guy is a scumbag who will be looking to grab whatever last vestiges of fame he can. Thankfully, she seems to be distancing herself from him a bit. Obviously she's copied him in several ways, but I have to believe she's been paying attention to what's been going on with him lately. She said she's fine with people hating her as long as they're interested in what she's doing, but that ain't the kind of hate she should be going for. One product of her booking for me is that her Twitter ‘banter’ feels disconnected from who she is on TV now. Part of what made the character compelling a few months back is that her social media felt like an extension of who she is, but now she’s smiling at fans chanting her name and getting cheap pops and having to do more standard babyface dialogue, it feels off. It’s not a single whole character anymore but two, one on TV for the casuals and one on Twitter for the smarks. Plus the inevitable problem of her having to go more extreme with her social media to keep getting the same reaction, and the difficulty in being able to pretend to be ‘held back’ or not favoured when you’ve already been given everything.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 20:04:09 GMT -5
Becky's a good wrestler and all, just tired of her promos.
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Post by schma on Apr 23, 2019 20:57:54 GMT -5
Only thing I'm not a huge fan of is when she calls Rousey (or anyone) a little weirdo. Sounds a bit too childlike for me given her recent character development. Otherwise, she's great. Calling Ronda a weirdo is more a carryover from when Ronda was accusing Becky of stealing her panties.
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Post by schma on Apr 23, 2019 21:03:10 GMT -5
I wonder if part of people's like or dislike is related to the connor stuff. I'm aware of the guy and the fact that he was a double champion at some point but that's about all I know. Meanwhile, I see a lot of people decrying Becky because she has borrowed from the guy and apparently hes a pretty crappy dude. As such the champ champ and Becky two belts stuff just feels like the kind of silliness Becky would use anyways.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 23, 2019 21:07:03 GMT -5
Well some part of her rise in popularity was the tension that management was going to screw her over. Now she is a management favorite so that suspense is gone.
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Post by robferatu on Apr 23, 2019 22:00:30 GMT -5
THE MAN character we've seen Becky Lynch portray over the last couple months isn't the same as THE MAN character she was portraying during the latter portion of last year, if only because the aura of being a badass is all, but gone.
I'm glad she happened upon this character, was pushed at a result of the fans demanding it, but along the way from SummerSlam until now it feels like a case of peaking too soon, and now with each and every passing week, it's starting feel like she's becoming less and less over and I don't think the feud with Lacey Evans is doing her in favors.
I'm not nearly as down on her having one more rematch with Charlotte Flair as much as everyone else is, just as long as it is just ONE MORE match with Lynch decisively winning before breaking breaking them away from each other for the foreseeable future.
You know, if they could have gotten Rousey to stick around, I would have dug them doing a "Wrestlemania" rematch at "Money in the Bank" with her pinning Charlotte Flair this time around or went the route of doing individual rematches with her defending the Smackdown Women's Championship in a one-on-one match against Charlotte Flair and the Raw Women's Championship against Ronda Rousey in another one at "Money in the Bank"
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Post by trollrogue on Apr 24, 2019 1:47:23 GMT -5
It took a small turn the wrong way once she became the top babyface and I assume Vince took over her booking. If she’s going to be “the man” and is a babyface, she needs to be coming back after Lacey Evans completely out of her mind. We all know once Vince inserted himself into Becky's storyline and screamed at her "you're not The Man, I AM THE MAN!" Vince was in creative control of Becky's booking lez B real
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Post by trollrogue on Apr 24, 2019 1:55:28 GMT -5
THE MAN character we've seen Becky Lynch portray over the last couple months isn't the same as THE MAN character she was portraying during the latter portion of last year, if only because the aura of being a badass is all, but gone. I'm glad she happened upon this character, was pushed at a result of the fans demanding it, but along the way from SummerSlam until now it feels like a case of peaking too soon, and now with each and every passing week, it's starting feel like she's becoming less and less over and I don't think the feud with Lacey Evans is doing her in favors. I'm not nearly as down on her having one more rematch with Charlotte Flair as much as everyone else is, just as long as it is just ONE MORE match with Lynch decisively winning before breaking breaking them away from each other for the foreseeable future. You know, if they could have gotten Rousey to stick around, I would have dug them doing a "Wrestlemania" rematch at "Money in the Bank" with her pinning Charlotte Flair this time around or went the route of doing individual rematches with her defending the Smackdown Women's Championship in a one-on-one match against Charlotte Flair and the Raw Women's Championship against Ronda Rousey in another one at "Money in the Bank" I like that Becky got the nod over Ronda and Charlotte at 'Mania, it was a good end to that 'season' of WWE no doubt. The only problem is, The Man works best as an underdog who is fighting for the brass ring. I mean the entire basis of the booking was The Authority doing everything to hold both Becky and Kofi down-- and them conquering that at 'Mania was the catharsis point for both. So now we're left with the aftermath-- Becky and Kofi have become the object of their own scorn as in they are both 'The Man' who have it all. With their entire charisma based on being underdog faces who are being held back, isn't this killing their gimmick a bit to have them sit atop the mountain? Again I look at Lacey or even Ember Moon (who couldn't beat Asuka on NXT and never beat any RAW champs either) as severely underwhelming for The Man to be fighting against when she literally just fought the entire world, the UFC, the WWE, her NXT roots (former horsewoman Charlotte) and her own backstory of struggling as an indy wrestler from Ireland to finally make it in the WWE. Nothing is grabbing me with Becky now that she's the champ when before everything was in her favor.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 24, 2019 2:07:16 GMT -5
THE MAN character we've seen Becky Lynch portray over the last couple months isn't the same as THE MAN character she was portraying during the latter portion of last year, if only because the aura of being a badass is all, but gone. I'm glad she happened upon this character, was pushed at a result of the fans demanding it, but along the way from SummerSlam until now it feels like a case of peaking too soon, and now with each and every passing week, it's starting feel like she's becoming less and less over and I don't think the feud with Lacey Evans is doing her in favors. I'm not nearly as down on her having one more rematch with Charlotte Flair as much as everyone else is, just as long as it is just ONE MORE match with Lynch decisively winning before breaking breaking them away from each other for the foreseeable future. You know, if they could have gotten Rousey to stick around, I would have dug them doing a "Wrestlemania" rematch at "Money in the Bank" with her pinning Charlotte Flair this time around or went the route of doing individual rematches with her defending the Smackdown Women's Championship in a one-on-one match against Charlotte Flair and the Raw Women's Championship against Ronda Rousey in another one at "Money in the Bank" I like that Becky got the nod over Ronda and Charlotte at 'Mania, it was a good end to that 'season' of WWE no doubt. The only problem is, The Man works best as an underdog who is fighting for the brass ring. I mean the entire basis of the booking was The Authority doing everything to hold both Becky and Kofi down-- and them conquering that at 'Mania was the catharsis point for both. So now we're left with the aftermath-- Becky and Kofi have become the object of their own scorn as in they are both 'The Man' who have it all. With their entire charisma based on being underdog faces who are being held back, isn't this killing their gimmick a bit to have them sit atop the mountain? Again I look at Lacey or even Ember Moon (who couldn't beat Asuka on NXT and never beat any RAW champs either) as severely underwhelming for The Man to be fighting against when she literally just fought the entire world, the UFC, the WWE, her NXT roots (former horsewoman Charlotte) and her own backstory of struggling as an indy wrestler from Ireland to finally make it in the WWE. Nothing is grabbing me with Becky now that she's the champ when before everything was in her favor. This seems to be a recurring problem for long dramatic chase arcs in WWE, the whole “...Now what?” thing. In movies, the credits roll when Rocky Balboa finally beats Apollo Creed. In wrestling, you have to see the title defenses against the lesser contenders like Virgil Abrams and Razor Robinson after that.
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Post by Tired as heck on Apr 24, 2019 2:33:55 GMT -5
THANK YOU! I've been saying this forever now, glad to hear I'm not the only one who hates the nickname and her new character. She feels like she's trying so hard to be a badass and it doesn't work on her at all.
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Post by deezy on Apr 24, 2019 4:16:43 GMT -5
I like the character and hell I wish I had the confidence the character has. Problem is I don't like Becky playing this character because it's just not believable to me. Asuka ( minus the promos ) or even Sonia I could see being this badass character, Just not realistic to me with Becky.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 24, 2019 6:57:07 GMT -5
I like that Becky got the nod over Ronda and Charlotte at 'Mania, it was a good end to that 'season' of WWE no doubt. The only problem is, The Man works best as an underdog who is fighting for the brass ring. I mean the entire basis of the booking was The Authority doing everything to hold both Becky and Kofi down-- and them conquering that at 'Mania was the catharsis point for both. So now we're left with the aftermath-- Becky and Kofi have become the object of their own scorn as in they are both 'The Man' who have it all. With their entire charisma based on being underdog faces who are being held back, isn't this killing their gimmick a bit to have them sit atop the mountain? Again I look at Lacey or even Ember Moon (who couldn't beat Asuka on NXT and never beat any RAW champs either) as severely underwhelming for The Man to be fighting against when she literally just fought the entire world, the UFC, the WWE, her NXT roots (former horsewoman Charlotte) and her own backstory of struggling as an indy wrestler from Ireland to finally make it in the WWE. Nothing is grabbing me with Becky now that she's the champ when before everything was in her favor. This seems to be a recurring problem for long dramatic chase arcs in WWE, the whole “...Now what?” thing. In movies, the credits roll when Rocky Balboa finally beats Apollo Creed. In wrestling, you have to see the title defenses against the lesser contenders like Virgil Abrams and Razor Robinson after that. Good. That results in a believable champion. They do need a period of time where they can run through some bums or upper-midcarders. No, I don’t think it hurts Lynch to sit on top of the mountain at all, because I feel WWE tries to push the “eternal underdog” angles with their faces too often lately. That’s partly what hurt Roman for those last couple of years, because he hadn’t been given an opportunity to reign (pun intended). The company really does need to get away from dumping so much heat on their top babyfaces, so I think they’re treating Becky right in terms of making her feel like an important titleholder. And where are people picking up Conor McGregor vibes from Becky? Outside of an Irish accent and talking trash on social media, the Becky character is far smarter and less self-destructive than the real life McGregor.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 24, 2019 7:46:30 GMT -5
As an aside, I never liked when Austin would ask the crowd for a 'Hell Yeah'.
Like, why would Mr. DTA pander to the crowd?
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 24, 2019 7:54:11 GMT -5
I like that Becky got the nod over Ronda and Charlotte at 'Mania, it was a good end to that 'season' of WWE no doubt. The only problem is, The Man works best as an underdog who is fighting for the brass ring. I mean the entire basis of the booking was The Authority doing everything to hold both Becky and Kofi down-- and them conquering that at 'Mania was the catharsis point for both. So now we're left with the aftermath-- Becky and Kofi have become the object of their own scorn as in they are both 'The Man' who have it all. With their entire charisma based on being underdog faces who are being held back, isn't this killing their gimmick a bit to have them sit atop the mountain? Again I look at Lacey or even Ember Moon (who couldn't beat Asuka on NXT and never beat any RAW champs either) as severely underwhelming for The Man to be fighting against when she literally just fought the entire world, the UFC, the WWE, her NXT roots (former horsewoman Charlotte) and her own backstory of struggling as an indy wrestler from Ireland to finally make it in the WWE. Nothing is grabbing me with Becky now that she's the champ when before everything was in her favor. This seems to be a recurring problem for long dramatic chase arcs in WWE, the whole “...Now what?” thing. In movies, the credits roll when Rocky Balboa finally beats Apollo Creed. In wrestling, you have to see the title defenses against the lesser contenders like Virgil Abrams and Razor Robinson after that. Spider Rico deserved his chance to shine, damn it!
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 24, 2019 8:25:44 GMT -5
As an aside, I never liked when Austin would ask the crowd for a 'Hell Yeah'. Like, why would Mr. DTA pander to the crowd? Austin was D.T.A with the people he worked with, and for good reason. Personally I loved the Hell Yeahs. He was still the roster’s biggest hero, so I think it would have been a bad idea for him to shun the fans as he would have fallen too far on the heel end of his tweener status.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 24, 2019 8:32:10 GMT -5
As an aside, I never liked when Austin would ask the crowd for a 'Hell Yeah'. Like, why would Mr. DTA pander to the crowd? Austin was D.T.A with the people he worked with, and for good reason. Personally I loved the Hell Yeahs. He was still the roster’s biggest hero, so I think it would have been a bad idea for him to shun the fans as he would have fallen too far on the heel end of his tweener status. That's why I'm fine with Becky being friendly and smiley with the fans. They've been her biggest supporters, and she has no cause to be an asshole to them. When they sing her entrance music, or chant "you deserve it" or whatever else, she should be happy. And she is. Then she puts on her serious face when she's confronted by an opponent, because she's determined to be the top dog. Because she wants to keep enjoying that status that the belts, and the fans, give her.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Apr 24, 2019 8:50:21 GMT -5
Count me in with the group that never bought into the gimmick. I've said it before, she came off more like a brat in the storyline than a rebellious tweener. And her with her little tongue in cheek tough girl face was as intimidating as Charlie sheen's tough guy character was in Ferris Bueller's day off.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 24, 2019 17:06:48 GMT -5
I get why they ended up turning her back face since the fans were never going to boo her but I think she was at her best last fall when she was heel (Summerslam up to the Raw pre Survivor Series where she got busted open and didn't care). I loved her aggression during that period with her just constantly attacking Charlotte every week. I think her coming off as a bad ass was more believable during that period as she came off as genuinely very bitter and angry because up until that point she had never gotten her due. Having her go back to being more of a face I think has led to her losing her edge a good bit and now that she's on top of the mountain she's lost it ever more.
It also doesn't help that they've been very inconsistent how they've booked her both in how she carries herself and how she wrestles her matches. One week she's nice and humble and kissing the likes of Natalya's ass and then the next night she's being a bitch and giving nobody respect. One week she's beating up the Riott Squad by herself and then the next she's struggling to eek out a win over perennial lowercarder Alicia Fox in 10 minutes. It's like they can't make up their mind if they want her to be an underdog scrappy face or a badass anti hero and even as a long time fan of her it's making me lose interest because I don't really know how to take her as a character anymore. If you ask me they should just keep her in the anti hero face role as that's the role I think most of her fans want to see her in. People want to see her kick ass and be THE MAN, not some sympathetic character who is constantly selling injuries and having to fight from underneath in every match.
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