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Post by atgnatpodcast on Apr 24, 2019 17:36:31 GMT -5
Should have never told creative she turned face. Keep writing heel promos and doing heelish acts, that will keep her over.
She will be stale as shit by summerslam
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Post by Dub H on Apr 24, 2019 17:39:01 GMT -5
I get why they ended up turning her back face since the fans were never going to boo her but I think she was at her best last fall when she was heel (Summerslam up to the Raw pre Survivor Series where she got busted open and didn't care). I loved her aggression during that period with her just constantly attacking Charlotte every week. I think her coming off as a bad ass was more believable during that period as she came off as genuinely very bitter and angry because up until that point she had never gotten her due. Having her go back to being more of a face I think has led to her losing her edge a good bit and now that she's on top of the mountain she's lost it ever more. It also doesn't help that they've been very inconsistent how they've booked her both in how she carries herself and how she wrestles her matches. One week she's nice and humble and kissing the likes of Natalya's ass and then the next night she's being a bitch and giving nobody respect. One week she's beating up the Riott Squad by herself and then the next she's struggling to eek out a win over perennial lowercarder Alicia Fox in 10 minutes. It's like they can't make up their mind if they want her to be an underdog scrappy face or a badass anti hero and even as a long time fan of her it's making me lose interest because I don't really know how to take her as a character anymore. If you ask me they should just keep her in the anti hero face role as that's the role I think most of her fans want to see her in. People want to see her kick ass and be THE MAN, not some sympathetic character who is constantly selling injuries and having to fight from underneath in every match. Pretty much if there is an issue is that she is not being THE MAN enough
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Apr 24, 2019 17:45:30 GMT -5
THIS was peak THE MAN. If Becky's character leans a little more towards her persona at the time (here or the broken face Becky), rather than the post Royal Rumble to WM35, I think she'd be looked upon as more appealing and favorable again. She talks about being the man, but needs to show it more often again like she used to late last year (Punching/calling out Cena, Posing atop a KO'd Charlotte, beating Ronda up while leading the SD women, despite a broken nose), that kind of thing. Get ruthless and aggressive again, even as a face - sorta like Braun Strowman did when he started getting popular. It's what will keep her fresh.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Apr 24, 2019 21:12:30 GMT -5
I still like her, but honestly WWE is terrible after doing a payoff. Like after Bryan’s win at WM30, their next big feud for their big babyface was..a Kane feud. And I know his father passed and he ended up getting injured anyway, but there had to have been a better option.
This is a worse case with Becky because outside of Charlotte and Ronda, nobody else has that “the management REALLY likes her and hates Becky” feel. Nobody’s as popular or hot enough to really oppose her, so her shtick feels like she’s either punching down at people below her or we’re making up kayfabe backstage heat (Lacey Evans f***ing Vince to get a push) to get that “management likes her over Becky” feeling back.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Apr 25, 2019 2:04:56 GMT -5
Badass doesn't suit her. She's trying too hard also.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 25, 2019 6:30:13 GMT -5
I still like her, but honestly WWE is terrible after doing a payoff. Like after Bryan’s win at WM30, their next big feud for their big babyface was..a Kane feud. And I know his father passed and he ended up getting injured anyway, but there had to have been a better option. This is a worse case with Becky because outside of Charlotte and Ronda, nobody else has that “the management REALLY likes her and hates Becky” feel. Nobody’s as popular or hot enough to really oppose her, so her shtick feels like she’s either punching down at people below her or we’re making up kayfabe backstage heat (Lacey Evans f***ing Vince to get a push) to get that “management likes her over Becky” feeling back. And if it needs to look like management hates her for the "THE MAN" gimmick to work, then the well has pretty much been poisoned.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 25, 2019 6:40:51 GMT -5
I still like her, but honestly WWE is terrible after doing a payoff. Like after Bryan’s win at WM30, their next big feud for their big babyface was..a Kane feud. And I know his father passed and he ended up getting injured anyway, but there had to have been a better option. This is a worse case with Becky because outside of Charlotte and Ronda, nobody else has that “the management REALLY likes her and hates Becky” feel. Nobody’s as popular or hot enough to really oppose her, so her shtick feels like she’s either punching down at people below her or we’re making up kayfabe backstage heat (Lacey Evans f***ing Vince to get a push) to get that “management likes her over Becky” feeling back. And if it needs to look like management hates her for the "THE MAN" gimmick to work, then the well has pretty much been poisoned. Yeah, I think while it worked amazingly well in the short-term, there’s a lot of long-term issues with it.. Another one for me is that the constant kayfabe in media interviews gets grating. While it’d be intriguing to get insight into her mindset or how she approaches the gimmick, every interview is just the same boasting and attacking others, and it kinda makes her look like an asshole to win everything and still keep trashing the people she works with. I also assume this is a reason she’s done very little corporate/PR work despite her place in the company.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 25, 2019 6:55:28 GMT -5
I still like her, but honestly WWE is terrible after doing a payoff. Like after Bryan’s win at WM30, their next big feud for their big babyface was..a Kane feud. And I know his father passed and he ended up getting injured anyway, but there had to have been a better option. This is a worse case with Becky because outside of Charlotte and Ronda, nobody else has that “the management REALLY likes her and hates Becky” feel. Nobody’s as popular or hot enough to really oppose her, so her shtick feels like she’s either punching down at people below her or we’re making up kayfabe backstage heat (Lacey Evans f***ing Vince to get a push) to get that “management likes her over Becky” feeling back. And if it needs to look like management hates her for the "THE MAN" gimmick to work, then the well has pretty much been poisoned. I dont think it needs.But she is.not playing full.man right now Maybe its something they can pull off in certain moments.But she needs to act full man at some point in he feuds.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Apr 25, 2019 11:33:05 GMT -5
I actually am not really sure I understand what the character is. She's just aggressive and... that's it?
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Apr 25, 2019 21:23:01 GMT -5
I read that she's STILL shit-talking Rousey in interviews and had to roll my eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 21:30:28 GMT -5
I read that she's STILL shit-talking Rousey in interviews and had to roll my eyes. Those two just need to get a room and get it over with already.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 25, 2019 23:11:41 GMT -5
I read that she's STILL shit-talking Rousey in interviews and had to roll my eyes. It comes off as petty at this point, but to me it highlights the issue of always being in kayfabe making her interviews repetitive:
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 26, 2019 2:19:51 GMT -5
I read that she's STILL shit-talking Rousey in interviews and had to roll my eyes. It comes off as petty at this point, but to me it highlights the issue of always being in kayfabe making her interviews repetitive: Well, Ronda only worked a year. I am guessing this is just early setting up for her comeback angle.
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