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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 25, 2019 12:13:46 GMT -5
Meltzer said on WOR that the company wasn't worried about the losses because they chose to spend more knowing that they are about to get a gigantic boost of revenue in the next few years. Basically: the fans dont matter ,we have saudi and Fox money Not necessarily. Dave also mentioned they're highly concerned about the ratings and doing more focus group studies than ever.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 25, 2019 12:14:54 GMT -5
Basically: the fans dont matter ,we have saudi and Fox money Not necessarily. Dave also mentioned they're highly concerned about the ratings and doing more focus group studies than ever. What good is the studies if Vince just shrugs it off if it doesnt matches his opinion? They had the feedback people werent intwrested in the Charlotte and Corbin WM matches and they did it anyway fot example.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 25, 2019 12:15:50 GMT -5
Not necessarily. Dave also mentioned they're highly concerned about the ratings and doing more focus group studies than ever. What good is the studies if Vince just shrugs it off if it doesnt matches his opinion? How much longer can he do that though? The proof is in the numbers that his opinions don't align with the audience he's seeking.
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Post by KofiMania on Apr 25, 2019 13:31:25 GMT -5
Meltzer said on WOR that the company wasn't worried about the losses because they chose to spend more knowing that they are about to get a gigantic boost of revenue in the next few years. Basically: the fans dont matter ,we have saudi and Fox money No, he means they actually turned a profit but decided they could spend that profit into a loss making long-term investments (such as international performance centers) knowing they have huge boosts coming to their bottom line later this year (and for the next 5 years).
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Post by floundertime on Apr 25, 2019 14:23:18 GMT -5
Not a good sign that the stock is down 12% today.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 14:34:06 GMT -5
That money don't mean squak if WWE aint got an audience left.
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Post by KofiMania on Apr 25, 2019 15:31:21 GMT -5
That money don't mean squak if WWE aint got an audience left. If they can monetize the 2-3 million fans they have in the U.S. to the extent they have been, then it means a lot.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 25, 2019 16:00:40 GMT -5
What good is the studies if Vince just shrugs it off if it doesnt matches his opinion? How much longer can he do that though? The proof is in the numbers that his opinions don't align with the audience he's seeking. And they spell disaster for him at Sackerfice! Honestly, I can't think of much that would be more thankless than being in a WWE focus group, trying to tell Vince McMahon what isn't working on his show. But I can also believe that Vince completely takes on board that advice, then disregards it when he decides to rewrite the show just hours before it airs. Just writing WWE professionally, with an eye to ongoing storylines and continuity, will improve the product.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 16:21:05 GMT -5
The E will be fine as long as they have the TV and Saudi money.
It’s sort of like MLB. They are rolling in money but they are dealing with a declining fanbase and questions about long term sustainability.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 22:38:33 GMT -5
That money don't mean squak if WWE aint got an audience left. If they can monetize the 2-3 million fans they have in the U.S. to the extent they have been, then it means a lot. It really doesn't. WWE has an aging audience and isn't succeeding at bringing in new fans to replace them. They're fine for years to come certainly, but if they don't start turning things around at some point they will die. They're losing old fans and completely failing to attract new ones, that is not sustainable.
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Post by 06vwgti on Apr 25, 2019 23:10:38 GMT -5
I'd love to get in one of those focus group studies, I wonder how they deal with the feedback, if they barely listen to their own fans...
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Post by ERON on Apr 26, 2019 7:30:48 GMT -5
Why does WWE even need focus groups? They have a live audience every night. That's your focus group, Vince. Listen to them!
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Post by 111111 on Apr 26, 2019 7:35:15 GMT -5
They had the feedback people werent intwrested in the Charlotte and Corbin WM matches and they did it anyway fot example. But wasn't the fact people were talking about those two matches loads a sign people were interested? WWE want "controversy" to some degree as it gets people tweeting.
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Post by . on Apr 26, 2019 10:11:56 GMT -5
You have, Without hyperbole, one of the best wrestling rosters ever assembled. Go find a mirror to see the real problem.
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Post by KofiMania on Apr 26, 2019 10:18:06 GMT -5
You have, Without hyperbole one of the best single wrestling rosters ever assembled. Go find a mirror to see the real problem. It’s spin for investors. They have to answer the questions. I disagree about the roster from a transcendent superstar point of view. They have a lot more Shawn Michaels right now but no Steve Austins, The Rocks, Hogans or even John Cenas.
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Post by . on Apr 26, 2019 10:35:01 GMT -5
You have, Without hyperbole one of the best single wrestling rosters ever assembled. Go find a mirror to see the real problem. It’s spin for investors. They have to answer the questions. I disagree about the roster from a transcendent superstar point of view. They have a lot more Shawn Michaels right now but no Steve Austins, The Rocks, Hogans or even John Cenas. Perhaps, It's still on them. They get hand gifted people who become fan favorites organically or are just over without the help if the WWE machine and they always seem to do everything they can to undo that. Samoa Joe: Looked like a killer in NXT now the running joke is he is a bitch. War Raiders: Brutal NXT tag team given such a bad name on their call up they got a conway pop. Lashley: Reduced to pointing to his ass Drew McIntyre: Went from must see to "go away" heat Anderson/Gallows: I think they looked good for one match before becoming comedy jobbers I may be doing a little cherry picking admittedly but you can't make a Rock, You can't make an Austin. It has to happen naturally and when it does you need to nurture it and not kill it because you're (Vince) bitter it didn't happen the way you wanted it to.
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Post by eJm on Apr 26, 2019 10:49:40 GMT -5
You have, Without hyperbole, one of the best wrestling rosters ever assembled. Go find a mirror to see the real problem. Ok, let's look at this from top to bottom. "When you don't have talent, you don't have storylines" - Why? Just because those people aren't there doesn't mean you can't make new storylines for new people. "When you don't have storylines, you won't do well in live events and television" - That's only if you don't do the above, which you clearly don't seem to care to. "We made new talent" - Let's say that's true (it's not), why did you list 15 people whose absense were the reason ratings were down? What storylines did you make for them? Like...that line just contradicts everything else. And yes, they don't have a crossover star. That's because they don't want that. WWE is the star. Everyone else is just the flavour and that's the thing that's causing people to not care. If you don't care about making new stars, why should we as an audience care for anyone there?
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 26, 2019 11:10:20 GMT -5
You have, Without hyperbole, one of the best wrestling rosters ever assembled. Go find a mirror to see the real problem. Ok, let's look at this from top to bottom. "When you don't have talent, you don't have storylines" - Why? Just because those people aren't there doesn't mean you can't make new storylines for new people. "When you don't have storylines, you won't do well in live events and television" - That's only if you don't do the above, which you clearly don't seem to care to. "We made new talent" - Let's say that's true (it's not), why did you list 15 people whose absense were the reason ratings were down? What storylines did you make for them? Like...that line just contradicts everything else. And yes, they don't have a crossover star. That's because they don't want that. WWE is the star. Everyone else is just the flavour and that's the thing that's causing people to not care. If you don't care about making new stars, why should we as an audience care for anyone there? I wonder just how much Brock leaving the first time f***ed with him so hard, they changed their entire booking philosophy.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 26, 2019 11:14:07 GMT -5
Also from Vince: We’ll receive more blood money from dictators pal. Hell we’ll have Summerslam in Cuba and Survivor Series in North Korea.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 26, 2019 18:58:38 GMT -5
You have, Without hyperbole, one of the best wrestling rosters ever assembled. Go find a mirror to see the real problem. WHAT NEW TALENT HAVE YOU F***ING MADE?? EVERYONE'S TURNED INTO A JOKE BECAUSE OF YOU! LMFAO
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