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Post by willywonka666 on May 12, 2019 10:41:34 GMT -5
Social media is about the only way to try to make fans marks these days. Or just people in general outside of wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 11:52:51 GMT -5
he wants to be thought of as the architect of the current indie boom
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 12, 2019 11:55:55 GMT -5
Sorry, but the "HHH = Savior" narrative will always be laughable as the guy continues to book himself in the longest Mania match every year with his big ego trip matches. I don't care what he does in NXT when there's nothing to lose there. You’re mixing up him as a performer vs. him as a booker. And even if it’s his own matches, Vince is still 100% booking and in charge of the main roster. It's impossible for an egotist to do both successfully.
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Post by Cronant on May 12, 2019 12:45:23 GMT -5
Sorry, but the "HHH = Savior" narrative will always be laughable as the guy continues to book himself in the longest Mania match every year with his big ego trip matches. I don't care what he does in NXT when there's nothing to lose there. You’re mixing up him as a performer vs. him as a booker. And even if it’s his own matches, Vince is still 100% booking and in charge of the main roster. I'm not mixing them up at all. How do people go "poor HHHs NXT babies" in one breath while they are crowded into battle royals because HHH needs a 30 minute match plus a 10 minute entrance about how cool he is? This isn't new, this is every year since HBK retired where he's done this. How is it that we spent years talking about HHH was in creative and booking himself favorably when he was active, but now he has NO power and its all Vince? Thats incredibly convenient. Nobody in NXT encroaches on his territory, that makes a world of difference. You can't separate the two because you like NXT. Its still HHH.
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Post by Juice on May 12, 2019 12:53:33 GMT -5
You’re mixing up him as a performer vs. him as a booker. And even if it’s his own matches, Vince is still 100% booking and in charge of the main roster. I'm not mixing them up at all. How do people go "poor HHHs NXT babies" in one breath while they are crowded into battle royals because HHH needs a 30 minute match plus a 10 minute entrance about how cool he is? This isn't new, this is every year since HBK retired where he's done this. How is it that we spent years talking about HHH was in creative and booking himself favorably when he was active, but now he has NO power and its all Vince? Thats incredibly convenient. Nobody in NXT encroaches on his territory, that makes a world of difference. You can't separate the two because you like NXT. Its still HHH. Hhh does not book hhh matches, despite what internet hhhaters would like to believe.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 13:13:22 GMT -5
I really don't even see how the viewpoints are in conflict? Yes, I see Triple H as having a massive ego and it feels like he overestimates his skills and appeal to an incredible level, and he constantly has to anchor himself to any angle that catches fire. Yes, I see Triple H as a vastly better promoter than Vince is who genuinely cares about putting on a quality show and having a credible and established roster. Those opinions don't contradict.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 12, 2019 13:37:28 GMT -5
He's already planning to do his water spit thing over Vince's grave.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on May 12, 2019 14:34:11 GMT -5
I think Hunter has a better understanding as far as crowds are concerned. He might not like a certain negative reception, yet I don't think he would go against the consumer if it meant him making more money.
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Post by schma on May 12, 2019 14:42:24 GMT -5
I believe Trips has been upset with dude business-wise since that Big E shit. Sure, he's his father in law so he'll always love him but Work Vince, he's probably wishing the guy would sit down already. Which Big E shit? I thought Trips pushed Roman over Big E or do you mean something else?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 14:46:57 GMT -5
I believe Trips has been upset with dude business-wise since that Big E shit. Sure, he's his father in law so he'll always love him but Work Vince, he's probably wishing the guy would sit down already. Which Big E shit? I thought Trips pushed Roman over Big E or do you mean something else? That's what I'm talking about. They had a disagreement that would shape the future of the company and even though Reigns was picked that's a major disagreement between them.
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 12, 2019 15:11:08 GMT -5
Which Big E shit? I thought Trips pushed Roman over Big E or do you mean something else? That's what I'm talking about. They had a disagreement that would shape the future of the company and even though Reigns was picked that's a major disagreement between them. I always heard HHH wanted Roman to lead the company and Vince wanted Big E. Or is it the other way around?
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Post by sportatorium on May 12, 2019 15:14:00 GMT -5
It’s Kevin Nash & Johnny Ace liking tweets rather than texting Nash to Stick the winner of the main event. Hunter really should keep better track of his phone.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 15:52:46 GMT -5
That's what I'm talking about. They had a disagreement that would shape the future of the company and even though Reigns was picked that's a major disagreement between them. I always heard HHH wanted Roman to lead the company and Vince wanted Big E. Or is it the other way around? That's right.
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Post by romanstylesiii on May 12, 2019 16:10:48 GMT -5
Are these even real? If you look at his likes, neither is there? It's pretty easy to photoshop stuff like that
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 12, 2019 16:12:30 GMT -5
I always heard HHH wanted Roman to lead the company and Vince wanted Big E. Or is it the other way around? That's right. What I wanna know then is why was Vince so hell bent on pushing Reigns then. Also you would think HHH would want Rollins as the FOTC
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 11:43:59 GMT -5
So either HHH is preparing civil way against Vhnce, or the 2 of them are sitting in a backstage room giggling at tweets with Vince saying "Ooh, ooh, like that one, see how people react!"
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Post by facethatrunstheplace on May 13, 2019 11:51:42 GMT -5
I'm not at all convinced things will be much better with Triple H in charge. His proven his ego comes before what's "best for business". Well his team are doing a good job with nxt. On the other hand he's had the longest match if not one of the longest matches at the last few wrestlemania's.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 13, 2019 13:17:59 GMT -5
I'm not at all convinced things will be much better with Triple H in charge. His proven his ego comes before what's "best for business". I think things will be a bit better creatively, but I'm also not expecting everything to go exactly how I want it to like my Universe Mode or something. I do believe a lot of things will stay the same. I think the biggest changes will be structure and presentation. Shows won't be rewritten countless times all the way up to airtime, and Kevin Dunn's garbage visual presentation will go away.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 13, 2019 13:40:21 GMT -5
I mean, I'm positive Triple H is incredibly frustrated right now. He goes and puts out these widely beloved shows and Vince keeps turning right around and turning them into the Viking Experience, while you have pet projects imploding like Sanity being called up to do jack f***ing shit then break up and Sasha wanting to quit. or look at Asuka... whose pretty much had a big bowl of nothing on the main roster. save for like a 3 month womens title reign, and lost her undefeated streak to pretty much the only person on the roster that didn't need it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 13, 2019 13:44:05 GMT -5
I think Hunter has a better understanding as far as crowds are concerned. He might not like a certain negative reception, yet I don't think he would go against the consumer if it meant him making more money. He has said that in the past. In NXT things like Enzo and Cass, and the Vaudevillains got over... he said he didn't get it but the fans reacted to tehm so he kept them in important positions...
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