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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 1, 2019 9:49:49 GMT -5
Here's the story from Uproxx, citing WON: uproxx.com/prowrestling/aew-double-or-nothing-ppv-buy-rate-record/Looks like it was nearly 50,000 B/R Live streams and nearly 50,000 traditional PPV buys. More than that, with replays there's a very real chance that DoN will surpass ECW Heatwave '99, which had 99,000 buys and currently holds the record for a non-WWF/WCW wrestling PPV. Reference: All In was closer to 55,000 (but was also more readily available via Honor Club and New Japan World), while TNA rarely hit the 50,000 mark. Obviously not counting international buys on Fite.tv here and other things, but for a first event for a promotion, and given the $50 price point, that bodes pretty danged well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 9:52:04 GMT -5
How is that in comparison to a non-big 4 WWE event of 2019?
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Post by KofiMania on Jun 1, 2019 9:53:50 GMT -5
How is that in comparison to a non-big 4 WWE event of 2019? WWE doesn’t get many PPV buys because of the Network. I think there’s like 1.5 million subscribers. |
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Post by chrom on Jun 1, 2019 10:15:28 GMT -5
All in all, a resounding success for their debut
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 10:28:56 GMT -5
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 1, 2019 12:55:26 GMT -5
4.9 million smackaroos plus the gate and merch for a single show bodes pretty damn well for them even after the PPV providers and venue take their cut.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jun 1, 2019 13:18:56 GMT -5
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Post by Steveweiser on Jun 1, 2019 13:26:53 GMT -5
A good chunk will have been international online with FITE.
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Post by KofiMania on Jun 1, 2019 13:50:31 GMT -5
Here's the story from Uproxx, citing WON: uproxx.com/prowrestling/aew-double-or-nothing-ppv-buy-rate-record/Looks like it was nearly 50,000 B/R Live streams and nearly 50,000 traditional PPV buys. More than that, with replays there's a very real chance that DoN will surpass ECW Heatwave '99, which had 99,000 buys and currently holds the record for a non-WWF/WCW wrestling PPV. Reference: All In was closer to 55,000 (but was also more readily available via Honor Club and New Japan World), while TNA rarely hit the 50,000 mark. Obviously not counting international buys on Fite.tv here and other things, but for a first event for a promotion, and given the $50 price point, that bodes pretty danged well. 50K BR/Live or is this the domestic total? I imagine a lot of buys came internationally on FITE for the more reasonable $20 price tag. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 1, 2019 15:10:43 GMT -5
Can't say for sure; just looking at the article it focuses on the $50 price point, which I believe didn't apply to Fite.tv buys, but at the same time it doesn't specify that the 50,000 or so streaming buys were just B/R Live so you guys might be right. If anybody's read the latest Observer I'm guessing they get a bit more specific.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 1, 2019 15:20:54 GMT -5
How is that in comparison to a non-big 4 WWE event of 2019? Hard to say because a lot of people watch WWE PPV's through the Network now, so the buyrates outside of it are probably quite low. Well over a million people are subscribed to the WWE Network, but WWE never releases numbers of who watched what in terms of live events.
That said, 98,000 buys for an event is pretty damn good considering All In did around 55,000 and DoN didn't have the benefit of a regular TV or even previous house shows to build on the show. Wonder if that includes international numbers or just domestic?
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Post by Sicho100 on Jun 1, 2019 15:25:46 GMT -5
That said, 98,000 buys for an event is pretty damn good considering All In did around 55,000 and DoN didn't have the benefit of a regular TV or even previous house shows to build on the show. Wonder if that includes international numbers or just domestic? It's international. About 2/3 of the buys were US. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jun 1, 2019 15:32:54 GMT -5
Can't say for sure; just looking at the article it focuses on the $50 price point, which I believe didn't apply to Fite.tv buys, but at the same time it doesn't specify that the 50,000 or so streaming buys were just B/R Live so you guys might be right. If anybody's read the latest Observer I'm guessing they get a bit more specific. So adding in Fite.TV for out of US and so forth that doesn't seem to me talked. They could have broken, the 100,000 mark. Which is pretty successful now days. Now I don't know when what year for sure, WWE started being mainly Network only PPV but some fun numbers to look at. Which would be direct PPV none streaming or network times, I can only fine up two 2011. They out did the WWE/ECW December to Dismember that only got 90,000 Lets say breaking the 100,000 they would been 37,000 behind Braging rights 2010 that was 137,000, or 40,000 for Over the Limit 2011 at 140,000. It's going to be interesting not only the next PPV but the first PPV with TV build. |
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Post by salz4life on Jun 1, 2019 17:27:47 GMT -5
I wonder what WWEs buyrates would be if the network didn’t exist?..
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Post by Cyno on Jun 1, 2019 17:51:20 GMT -5
I think the Royal Rumble and Summerslam would be strong, and Wrestlemania is a given. But I think the diminishing returns on non-Big 4 shows and Survivor Series, especially at current PPV prices (if you thought $50 for DoN was expensive, PPV prices for WWE outside the network go for $60 or more), would mean they'd have to cut down on the number of PPV events they'd hold.
But the Network was such a game-changer in creating a complacent subscriber base so maybe without it, they'd be forced to put more effort into building PPV's to entice buys.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jun 1, 2019 17:54:13 GMT -5
98,000 is higher than a couple of pre-WWE network WWE PPVs, so it's a great start for the company
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Post by honsou on Jun 1, 2019 17:59:16 GMT -5
The fact that they were able to do this without TV is pretty amazing, the sky is the limit at this point.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Jun 1, 2019 23:25:55 GMT -5
For a new company putting on their very first show, without having even started on TV yet, that is incredible. A massive success.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 1, 2019 23:28:55 GMT -5
I wonder what WWEs buyrates would be if the network didn’t exist?.. Wrestlemania, Summerslam, and Royal Rumble would by far kill it in that regard Money in the Bank and Survivor Series would also pop a good one Everything else would be middle of the road if not doing low considering way WWE does PPV's now but they have the luxury of the Network to do what they want without worrying about buyrate |
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Post by robferatu on Jun 2, 2019 0:09:14 GMT -5
If the numbers I jut read on indeedwrestling.blogspot.com are correct, or within the ballpark as I believe they were taken from Dave Meltzer's newsletter.
From "Souled Out" in two-thousand until the company folded, WCW only managed to get an excess of one-hundred thousand PPV buys on three separate occasions, and roughly averaged approximately seventy thousand through its dying days.
So, I don't know if that's any basis for comparison, but considering the day and age we currently live, north of eighty thousand has to be considered a resounding success by any metric.
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