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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 10, 2019 10:51:12 GMT -5
There is no denying he is looking good and Pelicans are getting him easy looks If I didn't put it in my way bold takes thread, I know I said it before on here but I do believe that Pelicans can have a chance at getting 8th seed if everything falls in line for them Zion is good and the Pels have a nice squad if Jrue and Lonzo can stay healthy and they mesh well. Redick is new in town (what are three other things about him?), Zion is a rookie, Ingram and Ball have only played with each other, Favors came from Utah. The talent is great, the rotation is VERY new. So there are going to be some growing pains. I think they are are a 5-8 seed as well, but out first round. On Zion, it's preseason. ESPN and others will cream their jeans, but TJ Warren had 30 the other night. Neither really changes who they are. Zion will probably win ROTY, but he's not gonna play a half-speed Bulls team every night. The Bulls being one of the worst teams and THE worst-coached team (HM: Knicks), without their only real good post defender in Carter Jr. I do wonder what his FG% will be. Probably in the rookie Ben Simmons range (another great athlete who finishes around the rim a lot, albeit with better length), 53-58% depending on volume touches. I think the Pelicans have the potential to win a max of 48 games. They should be running with this squad at all times but my biggest problem with them is Gentry. I don't like him as a coach and he may be the reason they falter if they do only win about 30 games or so The biggest thing with Zion is his willingness to take that open jumpshot. If he can live in the paint, more power to him but he will have to make people respect his jumpshot. Really the downfall of the Pelicans will be the ability to make jumpshots. Ingram is a scorer but not a consistent jump shooter, Lonzo changes his shot every year (this year it looks a lot better tho), Zion has to be able to make them pay, etc.. If you can run people off the court with pace and get a nice lob city going with Zion/Lonzo than great but the half court game is where it will count and how they will be tested
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 10, 2019 10:54:00 GMT -5
Giles’ knee is fxxxed again, even though they’re not outright saying it. He sat out the last month of last season with a “thigh bruise” but it definitely looked like he jammed/tweaked his knee on the play. Then after only a few practices he had soreness and missed the trip to India... which they said was because sitting on a plane for 40 hours wasn’t ideal. That’s almost believable. But then he’s still going to miss the next game with the goal of being totally healthy come the season starting. Too many red flags. Such a shame... because I legit think he has the most talent on a team loaded with young talent. Body just can’t take it after everything it’s gone through already. I really envied Sacramento's optimism on Giles, but he's had some red flags for a minute. I wouldn't give up all hope now, but I've always been reserved on what to expect out of him. He's a bit of a project as a player and a big project health-wise. Yea, I been saying that for a while the dude might have the best upside but those injuries scare me. He was never going to be the Kings best player, but if he can contribute and tap into his potential as a consistent player than great Kings will get tired of this though at some point. You can only baby a person so long before you need them to be consistent unless they are a crazy good player like Embiid or AD. If the Kings think they can get 50 games out of Giles, they'd take it but I don't think that is a guanrantee
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Oct 10, 2019 14:53:52 GMT -5
Zion is good and the Pels have a nice squad if Jrue and Lonzo can stay healthy and they mesh well. Redick is new in town (what are three other things about him?), Zion is a rookie, Ingram and Ball have only played with each other, Favors came from Utah. The talent is great, the rotation is VERY new. So there are going to be some growing pains. I think they are are a 5-8 seed as well, but out first round. On Zion, it's preseason. ESPN and others will cream their jeans, but TJ Warren had 30 the other night. Neither really changes who they are. Zion will probably win ROTY, but he's not gonna play a half-speed Bulls team every night. The Bulls being one of the worst teams and THE worst-coached team (HM: Knicks), without their only real good post defender in Carter Jr. I do wonder what his FG% will be. Probably in the rookie Ben Simmons range (another great athlete who finishes around the rim a lot, albeit with better length), 53-58% depending on volume touches. I think the Pelicans have the potential to win a max of 48 games. They should be running with this squad at all times but my biggest problem with them is Gentry. I don't like him as a coach and he may be the reason they falter if they do only win about 30 games or so The biggest thing with Zion is his willingness to take that open jumpshot. If he can live in the paint, more power to him but he will have to make people respect his jumpshot. Really the downfall of the Pelicans will be the ability to make jumpshots. Ingram is a scorer but not a consistent jump shooter, Lonzo changes his shot every year (this year it looks a lot better tho), Zion has to be able to make them pay, etc.. If you can run people off the court with pace and get a nice lob city going with Zion/Lonzo than great but the half court game is where it will count and how they will be tested Those LJ comparisons seem on point. He certainly plays that wa. I think people are forgetting how scary LJ was before the injuries started effecting his game.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 10, 2019 22:57:48 GMT -5
I think the Pelicans have the potential to win a max of 48 games. They should be running with this squad at all times but my biggest problem with them is Gentry. I don't like him as a coach and he may be the reason they falter if they do only win about 30 games or so The biggest thing with Zion is his willingness to take that open jumpshot. If he can live in the paint, more power to him but he will have to make people respect his jumpshot. Really the downfall of the Pelicans will be the ability to make jumpshots. Ingram is a scorer but not a consistent jump shooter, Lonzo changes his shot every year (this year it looks a lot better tho), Zion has to be able to make them pay, etc.. If you can run people off the court with pace and get a nice lob city going with Zion/Lonzo than great but the half court game is where it will count and how they will be tested Those LJ comparisons seem on point. He certainly plays that wa. I think people are forgetting how scary LJ was before the injuries started effecting his game. Yea, the hope is he finds his shot quicker than LJ did as he didn't get his until the injuries took its toll Can obviously throw a Shawn Kemp comparision in there too and obviously Pelicans hope he don't get fat like Kemp did
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 11, 2019 12:38:40 GMT -5
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Oct 11, 2019 20:42:48 GMT -5
Can someone update the thread title to "NBA: I'd Rather Be in Chyna"?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 11, 2019 21:25:19 GMT -5
Can someone update the thread title to "NBA: I'd Rather Be in Chyna"? I like that Change will be made unless the mods say na and change it back
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 12, 2019 12:13:42 GMT -5
Zion had another good game
Going be interesting to see how teams play him during the season because the team is having it flow instead of forcing it
Most importantly, he looks comfortable
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 13, 2019 23:31:47 GMT -5
Another really good game from Zion against the Spurs
He has done his job and looks comfortable
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Post by sfvega on Oct 13, 2019 23:42:05 GMT -5
Someone fell asleep at the wheel in my keeper draft, so I got Zion instead of John Collins. I'm ecstatic.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 13, 2019 23:45:29 GMT -5
Looking like Zion’s gonna make me eat some crow. I didn’t think he’d be bad by any stretch, but I thought his transition would be a little rough going from competing against the college boys to NBA men.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 13, 2019 23:47:36 GMT -5
Someone fell asleep at the wheel in my keeper draft, so I got Zion instead of John Collins. I'm ecstatic.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 13, 2019 23:52:05 GMT -5
Looking like Zion’s gonna make me eat some crow. I didn’t think he’d be bad by any stretch, but I thought his transition would be a little rough going from competing against the college boys to NBA men. I still think an adjustment will come in the regular season but the one thing you notice that's encouraging is, he isn't forcing it and the Pelicans aren't forcing him the ball They are getting him shots in motion and the jumpshots he is taking is without hesitation. 4's are a little to slow to keep up with him while 3's aren't strong enough to stop him from the paints It helps that Pelicans also have a good roster. He's probably had the best situation for a number 1 pick to walk into since Fultz with Philly but in this case, there is no question that Zion is the attraction while the team itself is the product
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Post by sfvega on Oct 14, 2019 0:01:46 GMT -5
Someone fell asleep at the wheel in my keeper draft, so I got Zion instead of John Collins. I'm ecstatic. Didn't show up for the draft. I was gonna take Collins, but Yahoo autodrafted him the incredibly highly ranked Mitchell Robinson for the 1st pick. Now I have Zion, Giannis, and Simmons.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 14, 2019 0:04:13 GMT -5
Didn't show up for the draft. I was gonna take Collins, but Yahoo autodrafted him the incredibly highly ranked Mitchell Robinson for the 1st pick. Now I have Zion, Giannis, and Simmons. Yea he's sick I like Mitch (obviously cause he's on the Knicks) but no damn way i'm drafting him until I exhaust my options At the very least you got triple doubles on the board with Giannis and Simmons, and at least double doubles with Zion
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Post by sfvega on Oct 14, 2019 0:07:50 GMT -5
Didn't show up for the draft. I was gonna take Collins, but Yahoo autodrafted him the incredibly highly ranked Mitchell Robinson for the 1st pick. Now I have Zion, Giannis, and Simmons. Yea he's sick I like Mitch (obviously cause he's on the Knicks) but no damn way i'm drafting him until I exhaust my options At the very least you got triple doubles on the board with Giannis and Simmons, and at least double doubles with Zion Robinson is getting Gobert comparisons long-term. His Per/36 stats last year were off the charts. 4+ blocks and 1.4 steals and like 13/10. He's gonna be good eventually, but never in your life over Zion or Collins rn.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 14, 2019 0:16:20 GMT -5
Yea he's sick I like Mitch (obviously cause he's on the Knicks) but no damn way i'm drafting him until I exhaust my options At the very least you got triple doubles on the board with Giannis and Simmons, and at least double doubles with Zion Robinson is getting Gobert comparisons long-term. His Per/36 stats last year were off the charts. 4+ blocks and 1.4 steals and like 13/10. He's gonna be good eventually, but never in your life over Zion or Collins rn. Robinson is going to be really good and could be good soon but still not over Zion or Collins. Teams aren't afraid of Mitch like they are Gobert and if he can duplicate what he did last year in what was not even a full season he'll be great but he's still young and his value is purely on defense Zion can get a steal and a block on top of a double double. Collins will be a double double machine, you have to go with value. Mitch is a good complimentary piece if he's around later but not a top pick
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Post by sfvega on Oct 14, 2019 0:20:32 GMT -5
Robinson is getting Gobert comparisons long-term. His Per/36 stats last year were off the charts. 4+ blocks and 1.4 steals and like 13/10. He's gonna be good eventually, but never in your life over Zion or Collins rn. Robinson is going to be really good and could be good soon but still not over Zion or Collins. Teams aren't afraid of Mitch like they are Gobert and if he can duplicate what he did last year in what was not even a full season he'll be great but he's still young and his value is purely on defense Zion can get a steal and a block on top of a double double. Collins will be a double double machine, you have to go with value. Mitch is a good complimentary piece if he's around later but not a top pick I agree, but tell that to Yahoo who has had him ranked anywhere from 21 to 26 this year. They're on the Don Nelson lettuce.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 14, 2019 13:05:25 GMT -5
Dominating preseason NBA defense is hardly an accomplishment.
I'm in the camp that preseason can prove if somebody stinks but can't show if they are good (this goes in every sport). If we starting handing out Preseason MVP awards then Harden would be scoring triple digits against D league hacks for his precious non-post season accomplishment tour.
That said, I think Zion will be fine in the NBA. But if you ever want to increase the chances of ruining a young superstar, praise them relentlessly before they face their first legit challenge.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 14, 2019 18:26:47 GMT -5
Dominating preseason NBA defense is hardly an accomplishment. I'm in the camp that preseason can prove if somebody stinks but can't show if they are good (this goes in every sport). If we starting handing out Preseason MVP awards then Harden would be scoring triple digits against D league hacks for his precious non-post season accomplishment tour. That said, I think Zion will be fine in the NBA. But if you ever want to increase the chances of ruining a young superstar, praise them relentlessly before they face their first legit challenge. Preseason is meant to work things out especially for the teams who need the chemistry work. Teams are figuring out a rotation and playing their stars for at least a half No one is fully buying into the preseason and saying his numbers will look the same but the most important thing is he's seeing NBA action and if you're watching the games you see that this isn't forced. The ball is getting to him and Pelicans look decent. He will not continue to score at this clip or be this efficient every night but the way they are using him probably won't change and that's the encouraging part. He's not ball dominant, he's part of a play and him being around the basket or running off a rebound has lead to the points Him and Lonzo have good chemistry
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