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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 22:09:33 GMT -5
Two great PPVs in a row now and by and large the company deserves a ton of praise, but it certainly isn't perfect, so what stands out as things they need to improve on?
Think the biggest ones with me are they need to improve the entrances (were better than Double or Nothing, but still too quiet and not really spaced properly) and the Librarian gimmick and Dark Order just plain aren't working.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 29, 2019 22:12:07 GMT -5
I think the entrances are fine honestly. The sounds are at least better than before.
Dark Order needs tweaking..they overuse the lights go out spot and it takes too long to come back to,with basically no pay off.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 22:12:59 GMT -5
Those unprotected chairshots are something I'm never going to like. They also need to fresh some people's entrances up. Besides a few, most of them felt like they were just there to be "there." Idk, didn't dig it.
Oh, also a lot of these matches tonight had too many false finises. Besides the Moxley/Janela match, all the others had too many.
That's pretty much it tho.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 29, 2019 22:15:20 GMT -5
I feel like the theme music also got better it actually got personality now.
Yeh Cody,please no more unprotected chair shots.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN (Nana is BUNS) on Jun 29, 2019 22:16:15 GMT -5
Don’t ask my friend Brian that question...he’s liable to get angry and give you a bullet pointed list.
He HATES AEW...the Bucks...Cody...Hangman...everything about it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Different strokes I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 22:16:20 GMT -5
Admittedly thus far I'm pretty sketchy on the Page push. Not having really been exposed to him much before, based on his AEW work thus far I'm not really seeing why I'm supposed to care about this guy.
Not seeing any reason to dislike him granted, but he's just kind of there.
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Post by Mama Rhodes Looking @ U Now on Jun 29, 2019 22:16:28 GMT -5
The f***ing MEMEING
The Librarian. The Fyre Festival parodies. That hardcore match with the weird bald dude that owns the convention or some shit. Awful awful awful. I shouldn't be filled with dread after watching a preshow, but that's exactly what I was after watching the f***ing memery gauntlet of hell. Also, The Dark Order are um oh jeez dude, but that's a separate thing.
While it's good that they're getting this stuff out of their system on preshows, I'd rather it'd not be there at all because I'd rather be excited about the preshow starting than not.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 29, 2019 22:20:39 GMT -5
The f***ing MEMEING The Librarian. The Fyre Festival parodies. That hardcore match with the weird bald dude that owns the convention or some shit. Awful awful awful. I shouldn't be filled with dread after watching a preshow, but that's exactly what I was after watching the f***ing memery gauntlet of hell. Also, The Dark Order are um oh jeez dude, but that's a separate thing. The hardcore match was designed specifically to please the live crowd and it worked,can't say it was bad in that sense. I feel like most of it was just to have some lighearted fun before the heavy shit But I think one comedy match is enough.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jun 29, 2019 22:21:15 GMT -5
Their preshows have been disasters so far. A couple good things tonight like the tag, and I didn't mind the gimmick match, but those aside they've been actively bad and I can see convincing people to not buy the main show.
Those preshows aren't a good representation of what the AEW PPVS have been at all.
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Post by Mama Rhodes Looking @ U Now on Jun 29, 2019 22:22:11 GMT -5
Their preshows have been disasters so far. A couple good things tonight like the tag, and I didn't mind the gimmick match, but those aside they've been actively bad and I can see convincing people to not buy the main show. Those preshows aren't a good representation of what the AEW PPVS have been at all. That's the weird thing about it. It's like an hour long of them just screaming loudly in to the void before starting the main show and killing it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 22:22:11 GMT -5
The Librarian stuff was only really good for a few BTE eps. It needs to be wrapped up already. The Dark Order has potential but it's just not clicking. They need they're gimmick fleshed out and preferably they need to get in the ring already. Outside of those things, I'm not disliking much. Oh and please no more chairshots to the head. I just don't want to see it. There's a reason I never watched The Rock/Foley I Quit match twice.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 29, 2019 22:22:11 GMT -5
Don’t ask my friend Brian that question...he’s liable to get angry and give you a bullet pointed list. He HATES AEW...the Bucks...Cody...Hangman...everything about it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Different strokes I guess. Is your friend actually Cornette?
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Post by lemonyellowson on Jun 29, 2019 22:22:20 GMT -5
There were two things tonight that I didn’t like but loved at the same time. The chair shot and that bump Darby Allen took to the apron. Brutal but amazing. Didn’t like the dumb Batista thing in the elite entrance, real specific thing to reference and surely went over people’s heads. Hate the hadoken spot.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 29, 2019 22:23:44 GMT -5
The Dark Order just seemed to come out of nowhere, with no explanation of who they are, why they have masked minions, or anything about them really being explained. Even The Librarians have a concrete backstory for those that watch the product (even if the material itself isn't connecting), but these guys spent so much time away from the US indy circuit, that they can't just waltz in doing whatever they were doing and expect everyone to know about it.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 29, 2019 22:25:49 GMT -5
The f***ing MEMEING The Librarian. The Fyre Festival parodies. That hardcore match with the weird bald dude that owns the convention or some shit. Awful awful awful. I shouldn't be filled with dread after watching a preshow, but that's exactly what I was after watching the f***ing memery gauntlet of hell. Also, The Dark Order are um oh jeez dude, but that's a separate thing. The hardcore match was designed specifically to please the live crowd and it worked,can't say it was bad in that sense. I feel like most of it was just to have some lighearted fun before the heavy shit But I think one comedy match is enough. And if there's going to be something at a fighting game tournament, it's going to be a f***ton of memeing. Well, that and lots of drinking and pot smoking.
I also really liked that hardcore match between Nakazawa and Jebailey. But then I'm in the apparent target audience of fighting game nerds. I mean, Justin f***ing Wong had an assist in that match. That's something I love while I imagine a lot of people outside of the FGC are like "who's this guy?" Might just be best to make the pre-shows dark from now on as they seem to get over a lot more with the live crowds than the home audiences.
And I agree about the unprotected chair shots. Can we have like 100% less of those?
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Post by Mama Rhodes Looking @ U Now on Jun 29, 2019 22:26:09 GMT -5
The Dark Order just seemed to come out of nowhere, with no explanation of who they are, why they have masked minions, or anything about them really being explained. Even The Librarians have a concrete backstory for those that watch the product (even if the material itself isn't connecting), but these guys spent so much time away from the US indy circuit, that they can't just waltz in doing whatever they were doing and expect everyone to know about it. Honestly? I'm not usually a fan like this, but like, considering how glaring it is My least favorite thing about The Dark Order is that half of them are ridiculously out of shape dudes in masks that accentuate just how out of shape they are. Like, they look f***ing ridiculous. They look a strip club show as done by the wobbling masked men in Night Trap.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 29, 2019 22:27:23 GMT -5
There were two things tonight that I didn’t like but loved at the same time. The chair shot and that bump Darby Allen took to the apron. Brutal but amazing. Didn’t like the dumb Batista thing in the elite entrance, real specific thing to reference and surely went over people’s heads. Hate the hadoken spot. I feel like the batista kid was just to justify the raging demon attack. Someone had to get it at least
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Post by Dub H on Jun 29, 2019 22:27:51 GMT -5
The hardcore match was designed specifically to please the live crowd and it worked,can't say it was bad in that sense. I feel like most of it was just to have some lighearted fun before the heavy shit But I think one comedy match is enough. And if there's going to be something at a fighting game tournament, it's going to be a f***ton of memeing. Well, that and lots of drinking and pot smoking. I also really liked that hardcore match between Nakazawa and Jebailey. But then I'm in the apparent target audience of fighting game nerds.
Same.I marked for the game cube controller so hard.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jun 29, 2019 22:28:45 GMT -5
Admittedly thus far I'm pretty sketchy on the Page push. Not having really been exposed to him much before, based on his AEW work thus far I'm not really seeing why I'm supposed to care about this guy. Not seeing any reason to dislike him granted, but he's just kind of there. Welcome to the last six years when he was in Ring of Honor
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 22:28:46 GMT -5
Just based on what I saw at Fyter Fest since it was my first AEW show, I can go without ever seeing another unprotected chairshot to the head. Also, I guess the theme songs should be louder and the entrances themselves spaced out a little better. Other than Shawn Spears' chairshot to Cody, no major gripes.
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